Re: reverse lookup to CNAME

2009-01-26 Thread John Bond
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk wrote: When i tried this host did not resolve the cname. i.e a host 1.1.1.1 returned metis.local. it did not know to resolve metis.local as bob the host 1.1.1.1 returned that 1.1.1.1.in-addr.arpa is a CNAME to

Re: BIND 9.4.x vs 9.6.x - pid-file check and creation

2009-01-26 Thread Jan Arild Lindstrøm
At 09:33 26/01/2009, Mark Andrews wrote: In message 200901260742.n0q7gjqn029...@mail46.nsc.no, Jan Arild =?iso-8859-1? Q?Lindstr=F8m?= writes: Hi, I was going to upgrade from BIND 9.4.3 to BIND 9.6.0-P1, but run into a = strange bug in BIND 9.6.0-P1. Exact same config for 9.4.3 and

error sending response log messages

2009-01-26 Thread Andre LeClaire
Hello everyone, I've been seeing these syslog messages for about a week on a FreeBSD server running BIND 9.4.3-P1: Jan 25 02:35:21 asimov named[145]: client 206.71.158.30#138: error sending response: permission denied Jan 25 03:43:32 asimov named[145]: client 206.71.158.30#138: error sending

Re: update my domaine from any where

2009-01-26 Thread CHAUDIER Andre
update de mon domaine andre chaudier___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users

Re: Conflicting glue records?

2009-01-26 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
For someone to register a domain and listing our server name with a bogus IP, the registry has to be incredibly careless I wonder if he is seeing the same thing I was a few days ago. I had a certain *.edu host listed as a nameserver of mine with several registries (gandi for .com, arin for

Newbie question about registrar DNS servers and NS records

2009-01-26 Thread RainyCity10
I inherited a Bind DNS server set up for a company that runs a number of web site. I'm in the process of cleaning up the zone files and adding additional slave DNS servers and I haven't got my head around NS records yet. When a domain is registered you specify what DNS servers will be providing

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread bsfinkel
I have not copied the entire thread. You've added an additional step in your second paragraph that is prohibited by the section you quoted in the first. The section from the RFC describes a situation where A is queried for and an MX record pointing to B is returned. When B is queried for,

Collision detection by reverse DNS lookup?

2009-01-26 Thread John Craig
I am looking to set up DHCP in an environment that does not support Dynamic DNS. There are many servers that will not be using DHCP in this environment. Ideally, I would like to do collision detection both by ping (which I know can be done) and reverse DNS lookup. I know that ping collision

Re: Conflicting glue records?

2009-01-26 Thread Chris Thompson
On Jan 26 2009, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: For someone to register a domain and listing our server name with a bogus IP, the registry has to be incredibly careless I wonder if he is seeing the same thing I was a few days ago. I had a certain *.edu host listed as a nameserver of mine with

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 26.01.09 09:19, bsfin...@anl.gov wrote: If I have in DNS cn IN CNAME realname and I query for cn, the DNS resolver will return realname. BIND also returns the A record for realname. Is this a requirement? If not, then mx IN 10 MX cn will result in: 1) the MX

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Al Stu
Thus, if an alias is used as the value of an NS or MX record, no address will be returned with the NS or MX value. Above statement, belief, perception etc. has already been proven to be a fallacy (see the network trace attached to one of the previous messages). Both the CNAME and A record is

Re: error sending response log messages

2009-01-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 497caef2.80...@yahoo.com, Andre LeClaire writes: Hello everyone, I've been seeing these syslog messages for about a week on a FreeBSD server running BIND 9.4.3-P1: Jan 25 02:35:21 asimov named[145]: client 206.71.158.30#138: error sending response: permission denied Jan 25

RE: reverse lookup to CNAME

2009-01-26 Thread Ben Bridges
-Original Message- [ ... ] On 23.01.09 23:06, Barry Margolin wrote: Why don't you just use normal reverse DNS: zone for 1.1.1.in-addr.arpa 1 IN PTR metis.local. IN PTR bob-www-sol-l01.local. accorging to the above, metis.local is a CNAME, so the reverse should

What are these entries in the log file - query: . IN NS +?

2009-01-26 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
Folks Warning - I know just enough about Bind to be dangerous. Which is why I'm asking. I just noticed that our small scale Bind server as a lot of the following lines. 26-Jan-2009 14:28:24.004 client 76.9.16.171#23101: query: . IN NS + 26-Jan-2009 14:28:58.254 client 63.217.28.226#28035:

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 07:43, Danny Thomas wrote: Al Stu wrote: So within the zone SMTP requirements are in fact met when the MX RR is a CNAME. you might argue the line of it being OK when additional processing includes an A record. In all the time its taken him to type his rants and

Re: What are these entries in the log file - query: . IN NS +?

2009-01-26 Thread Gregory Hicks
To: comp-protocols-dns-b...@isc.org From: Tony Toews [MVP] tto...@telusplanet.net Subject: What are these entries in the log file - query: . IN NS +? Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:45:18 GMT Folks Warning - I know just enough about Bind to be dangerous. Which is why I'm asking. I just

Forcing a secondary update...

2009-01-26 Thread Jeff Justice
Without getting into how I managed to accomplish this, I have wound up with a secondary DNS that has incorrect information in it but the serial numbers are the same as on the master. So, my question is: how can I get the secondary to sync up? I presume all I would need to do is make a

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Al Stu
In all the time its taken him to type his rants and raves and have his little dummy spit, he could have gone and changed the MX to be a real name, ... - Noel Butler Wow, such narrow mindedness. I like most I suspect stopped reading his rants days ago. - Noel Butler And yet here you are

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 2d378cb064ba4d06880aed8ed81f3...@ahsnbw1, Al Stu writes: Thus, if an alias is used as the value of an NS or MX record, no address will be returned with the NS or MX value. Above statement, belief, perception etc. has already been proven to be a fallacy (see the network trace

Re: Forcing a secondary update...

2009-01-26 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On 26-Jan-2009, at 17:50, Jeff Justice wrote: Without getting into how I managed to accomplish this, I have wound up with a secondary DNS that has incorrect information in it but the serial numbers are the same as on the master. So, my question is: how can I get the secondary to sync up?

Re: What are these entries in the log file - query: . IN NS +?

2009-01-26 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
Gregory Hicks ghi...@hicks-net.net wrote: 2) What are they? They look like the DDoS being discussed on the NANOG list. Have you implemented BCP38? If not, why not... I have no idea what BCP38 is and how I can implement that. Would you be so kind as to supply links relevant to Windows 2003

Re: What are these entries in the log file - query: . IN NS +?

2009-01-26 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: This is not your config, so long as you are not answering thats fine. How do I know I'm not answering those? It's a forged request asking you to participate in a DDoS thats been going on since last Wedensday, it's best if you firewall off your replies

Re: What are these entries in the log file - query: . IN NS +?

2009-01-26 Thread Noel Butler
Hi Tony, On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 09:35, Tony Toews [MVP] wrote: Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: This is not your config, so long as you are not answering thats fine. How do I know I'm not answering those? Since your on win, I can't help you, but whatever your packet monitor is,

Re: Disable cache in bind 9.6

2009-01-26 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:12:11 +0300, Dmitry Rybin kirg...@corbina.net wrote: +50 views of zone data + memory for 10 clients + You have a 32bit build which will give a maximum of 2G data. You are just trying to cram too much into too small a place. OK. May be you

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Al Stu
How about these two? nullmx.domainmanager.com Non-authoritative answer: Name:mta.dewile.net Address: 69.59.189.80 Aliases: nullmx.domainmanager.com smtp.secureserver.net Non-authoritative answer: Name:smtp.where.secureserver.net Address: 208.109.80.149 Aliases:

Re: What are these entries in the log file - query: . IN NS +?

2009-01-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message fvhsn493t2pb75c93nm1s14lkttiu0i...@4ax.com, Tony Toews [MVP] wri tes: Gregory Hicks ghi...@hicks-net.net wrote: 2) What are they? They look like the DDoS being discussed on the NANOG list. Have you implemented BCP38? If not, why not... I have no idea what BCP38 is and

Re: What are these entries in the log file - query: . IN NS +?

2009-01-26 Thread Barry Margolin
In article gllha9$2ot...@sf1.isc.org, Tony Toews [MVP] tto...@telusplanet.net wrote: Gregory Hicks ghi...@hicks-net.net wrote: 2) What are they? They look like the DDoS being discussed on the NANOG list. Have you implemented BCP38? If not, why not... I have no idea what BCP38 is

Re: Forcing a secondary update...

2009-01-26 Thread Barry Margolin
In article glleo1$2na...@sf1.isc.org, Jeff Justice listacco...@starionline.com wrote: Without getting into how I managed to accomplish this, I have wound up with a secondary DNS that has incorrect information in it but the serial numbers are the same as on the master. So, my question

Re: What are these entries in the log file - query: . IN NS +?

2009-01-26 Thread Barry Margolin
In article gllmur$2sh...@sf1.isc.org, Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org wrote: In message fvhsn493t2pb75c93nm1s14lkttiu0i...@4ax.com, Tony Toews [MVP] wri tes: Gregory Hicks ghi...@hicks-net.net wrote: 2) What are they? They look like the DDoS being discussed on the NANOG

Re: Forcing a secondary update...

2009-01-26 Thread ivan jr sy
maybe this will help http://peppyheppy.com/2008/1/18/bulk-zone-file-serial-number-increment --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Barry Margolin bar...@alum.mit.edu wrote: From: Barry Margolin bar...@alum.mit.edu Subject: Re: Forcing a secondary update... To: comp-protocols-dns-b...@isc.org Date: Tuesday,

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 0aa37ce829ba458b9ba2d199a6d96...@ahsnbw1, Al Stu writes: How about these two? nullmx.domainmanager.com Non-authoritative answer: Name:mta.dewile.net Address: 69.59.189.80 Aliases: nullmx.domainmanager.com smtp.secureserver.net Non-authoritative answer: Name:

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Scott Haneda
On Jan 26, 2009, at 6:17 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: Which just means you have not ever experienced the problems causes. MTA are not required to look up the addresses of all the mail exchangers in the MX RRset to process the MX RRset. MTA usually learn their name

Re: What are these entries in the log file - query: . IN NS +?

2009-01-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message barmar-3c4a47.20101026012...@mara100-84.onlink.net, Barry Margolin writes: In article gllha9$2ot...@sf1.isc.org, Tony Toews [MVP] tto...@telusplanet.net wrote: Gregory Hicks ghi...@hicks-net.net wrote: 2) What are they? They look like the DDoS being discussed on

Re: What are these entries in the log file - query: . IN NS +?

2009-01-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message ulssn453ohc7rj6lobgkje0g0prvqd3...@4ax.com, Tony Toews [MVP] wri tes: Tony Toews [MVP] tto...@telusplanet.net wrote: How do I know I'm not answering those? Since your on win, I can't help you, but whatever your packet monitor is, see if you are replying to their requests,

Re: What are these entries in the log file - query: . IN NS +?

2009-01-26 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: Surely windows can block access to an inbound IP request from some IP to local udp port 53 ? Not the firewall software built into Windows 2003 Server. If not, you know what my next reply will be don't you :) chuckleYeah, well switching to Linux ain't

Re: What are these entries in the log file - query: . IN NS +?

2009-01-26 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 13:16, Tony Toews [MVP] wrote: Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: Surely windows can block access to an inbound IP request from some IP to local udp port 53 ? Not the firewall software built into Windows 2003 Server. Gawd... If not, you know what my

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Al Stu
If you refuse a CNAME then it is your SMTP server that is broken. The SMTP RFC's clearly state that SMTP servers are to accept and lookup a CNAME. - Original Message - From: Scott Haneda talkli...@newgeo.com To: Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org Cc: Al Stu al_...@verizon.net;

Re: What are these entries in the log file - query: . IN NS +?

2009-01-26 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
Tony Toews [MVP] tto...@telusplanet.net wrote: As far as I can tell from the same 5 or 20 IP addresses. I haven't seen these lines before. When I analyzed todays log I got three IP address. 204.15.80.50 might be smtp9.soma.ironport.com 63.217.28.226 might be Network solutions according to the

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Scott Haneda
On Jan 26, 2009, at 7:54 PM, Al Stu wrote: If you refuse a CNAME then it is your SMTP server that is broken. The SMTP RFC's clearly state that SMTP servers are to accept and lookup a CNAME. [RFC974] explicitly states that MX records shall not point to an alias defined by a CNAME. That

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Al Stu
RFC 974: There is one other special case. If the response contains an answer which is a CNAME RR, it indicates that REMOTE is actually an alias for some other domain name. The query should be repeated with the canonical domain name. - Original Message - From: Scott Haneda

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 3c802402a28c4b2390b088242a91f...@ahsnbw1, Al Stu writes: RFC 974: There is one other special case. If the response contains an answer which is a CNAME RR, it indicates that REMOTE is actually an alias for some other domain name. The query should be repeated with the canonical

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Al Stu
Yes, the response to an MX query, that is the subject here. And a CNAME is in fact permitted and specified by the RFC's to be accepted as the response to an MX lookup. If the response does not contain an error response, and does not contain aliases See there, alias is permitted. You

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message b3ba5e37553642e28149093cdee78...@ahsnbw1, Al Stu writes: Yes, the response to an MX query, that is the subject here. And a CNAME is in fact permitted and specified by the RFC's to be accepted as the response to an MX lookup. No one is saying a CNAME is not permitted

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Barry Margolin
In article gllr91$2vq...@sf1.isc.org, Scott Haneda talkli...@newgeo.com wrote: I have never got why this is such a hard thing for email admins to get right, but it certainly causes me headaches. I personally wish CNAME's would just go away, keep them around, but just stop talking

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Barry Margolin
In article glm61r$5l...@sf1.isc.org, Al Stu al_...@verizon.net wrote: Yes, the response to an MX query, that is the subject here. And a CNAME is in fact permitted and specified by the RFC's to be accepted as the response to an MX lookup. No, we're talking about the response to the A

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Scott Haneda
On Jan 26, 2009, at 10:03 PM, Barry Margolin wrote: In article gllr91$2vq...@sf1.isc.org, Scott Haneda talkli...@newgeo.com wrote: 100% right. I refuse MX's that are cnamed, and I get emails from customers asking what is up. What is strange, and I can not figure it out, is that the admins

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Scott Haneda
On Jan 26, 2009, at 10:11 PM, Barry Margolin wrote: In article gllr91$2vq...@sf1.isc.org, Scott Haneda talkli...@newgeo.com wrote: I have never got why this is such a hard thing for email admins to get right, but it certainly causes me headaches. I personally wish CNAME's would just go

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Al Stu
The paragraph you cite regarding LOCAL has a alias and the alias is listed in the MX records for REMOTE... is a peripery issue which is handled by not doing that. No one is saying a CNAME is not permitted in response to a MX query. Well good then, we agree. The MX record data value can be a

Re: BIND 9.6 Flaw - CNAME vs. A Record in MX Records are NOT Illegal

2009-01-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message bc7c01a4-1803-4906-bd90-93037b4ae...@newgeo.com, Scott Haneda writ es: On Jan 26, 2009, at 10:03 PM, Barry Margolin wrote: In article gllr91$2vq...@sf1.isc.org, Scott Haneda talkli...@newgeo.com wrote: 100% right. I refuse MX's that are cnamed, and I get emails from

Re: BIND 9.4.x vs 9.6.x - pid-file check and creation

2009-01-26 Thread Jan Arild Lindstrøm
At 22:41 26/01/2009, Mark Andrews wrote: In message 200901260955.n0q9tnvm010...@mail43.nsc.no, Jan Arild =?iso-8859-1? Q?Lindstr=F8m?= writes: At 09:33 26/01/2009, Mark Andrews wrote: In message 200901260742.n0q7gjqn029...@mail46.nsc.no, Jan Arild= =3D?iso-8859-1? Q?Lindstr=3DF8m?=3D