Re: Question About Recursion In A Split Horizon Setup

2020-04-17 Thread Bob Harold
d trusted hosts > > to do things as follows: > > > > allow-recursion { trustedhosts; }; > > allow-transfer { trustedhosts; }; > > > > 'trustedhosts' includes a number of public facing IPs as well as the > > 192.168.0/24 CIDR

Re: Question About Recursion In A Split Horizon Setup

2020-04-17 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 4/17/20 7:26 AM, Bob Harold wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:17 PM Tim Daneliuk <mailto:tun...@tundraware.com>> wrote: > > We have split horizon setup and enable our internal and trusted hosts > to do things as follows: > >    

Re: Question About Recursion In A Split Horizon Setup

2020-04-17 Thread Bob Harold
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:17 PM Tim Daneliuk wrote: > We have split horizon setup and enable our internal and trusted hosts > to do things as follows: > > allow-recursion { trustedhosts; }; > allow-transfer { trustedhosts; }; > > 'trustedhosts' includes a number

Question About Recursion In A Split Horizon Setup

2020-04-16 Thread Tim Daneliuk
We have split horizon setup and enable our internal and trusted hosts to do things as follows: allow-recursion { trustedhosts; }; allow-transfer { trustedhosts; }; 'trustedhosts' includes a number of public facing IPs as well as the 192.168.0/24 CIDR block. It also includes the IPs

Re: Can we provide recursion for forward zones in response to iterative queries?

2020-04-07 Thread bind-lists
tion says “configure a forward zone” it is almost always wrong. >>> >>> Do the similar for the top of all other private namespaces you are using. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>>>> On 4 Apr 2020, at 03:06, bind-li...@iano.org wrote: >&

Re: Can we provide recursion for forward zones in response to iterative queries?

2020-04-07 Thread bind-lists
inbound endpoints. Because they are >> delegations, the domain controllers set the recursion desired flag to 0 on >> the queries they send to the endpoints, and we are not getting replies from >> the endpoints. >> >> As a workaround we tried delegating to our linux

Re: Can we provide recursion for forward zones in response to iterative queries?

2020-04-07 Thread Mark Andrews
rvers are reachable at the IP level. >> If the solution says “configure a forward zone” it is almost always wrong. >> >> Do the similar for the top of all other private namespaces you are using. >> >> Mark >> >>>> On 4 Apr 2020, at 03:06

Re: Can we provide recursion for forward zones in response to iterative queries?

2020-04-07 Thread bind-lists
ays wrong. > > Do the similar for the top of all other private namespaces you are using. > > Mark > >> On 4 Apr 2020, at 03:06, bind-li...@iano.org wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> In summary, my question is whether there is a way to configure a bind &g

Re: Can we provide recursion for forward zones in response to iterative queries?

2020-04-06 Thread Mark Andrews
:06, bind-li...@iano.org wrote: > > Hi, > > In summary, my question is whether there is a way to configure a bind caching > server to provide recursion in response to iterative queries for records in a > forward type zone. > > The background is that we have: &

Re: Can we provide recursion for forward zones in response to iterative queries?

2020-04-06 Thread Chris Buxton
delegations, the domain controllers set the recursion desired flag to 0 on > the queries they send to the endpoints, and we are not getting replies from > the endpoints. > > As a workaround we tried delegating to our linux bind caching resolvers but > we ran into the same issue, that

Re: Can we provide recursion for forward zones in response to iterative queries?

2020-04-06 Thread Tony Finch
> Because the AD domain controllers already own 10.in-addr.arpa, they > refuse to allow us to configure conditional forwarding for its > subdomains. So we delegated the subdomains to the inbound endpoints. > Because they are delegations, the domain controllers set the recursion > de

Can we provide recursion for forward zones in response to iterative queries?

2020-04-03 Thread bind-lists
Hi, In summary, my question is whether there is a way to configure a bind caching server to provide recursion in response to iterative queries for records in a forward type zone. The background is that we have: - AD domain controllers that are authoritative for all of 10.in-addr.arpa. in our

Re: make bind prefer DoT for recursion

2019-03-22 Thread Tony Finch
Erich Eckner wrote: > > I am running a recursive resolver for my local network and was wondering > whether it is possible (and if so: how) to make it resolve via DNS-over-TLS if > that's available on the authoritative name servers. BIND doesn't have any TLS support, and (as you said) it really

make bind prefer DoT for recursion

2019-03-22 Thread Erich Eckner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, I am running a recursive resolver for my local network and was wondering whether it is possible (and if so: how) to make it resolve via DNS-over-TLS if that's available on the authoritative name servers. Setting up stunnel like for stub

Re: BIND 9.11.5-P4 can't do ipv6 recursion

2019-03-18 Thread Crist Clark
m> wrote: > > > > Hello ALL, > > I set up a recursion DNS in our college. It works well in ipv4 > > request,but can not resolve ipv6 request. The named.conf file is as follows: > > > > acl "trusted"{202.115.253.0/24;202.112.16.0/24;202.112.14.0

Re: BIND 9.11.5-P4 can't do ipv6 recursion

2019-03-18 Thread Mark Andrews
nvironment not the server. > On 19 Mar 2019, at 2:33 pm, celia <66183...@qq.com> wrote: > > Hello ALL, > I set up a recursion DNS in our college. It works well in ipv4 > request,but can not resolve ipv6 request. The named.conf file is as follows: > > acl &q

BIND 9.11.5-P4 can't do ipv6 recursion

2019-03-18 Thread celia
Hello ALL, I set up a recursion DNS in our college. It works well in ipv4 request,but can not resolve ipv6 request. The named.conf file is as follows: acl "trusted"{202.115.253.0/24;202.112.16.0/24;202.112.14.0/23;}; acl "ipv6" {2001:da8:6000::/48;}; options{

Re: Problem with Zones (recursion?)

2017-10-15 Thread Grant Taylor
derstand correctly that you are tweaking dhclient to use your server before other DNS servers? [ command 'nslookup 101com.com' ]------- ;; Got recursion not availlable from 7847104.44, trying next server Server: 192.168.43.1 Address:192.168.43.1#53 Non-

Problem with Zones (recursion?)

2017-10-15 Thread Michelle Konzack
-- Since is my own server, I have it prepend in my dhclient.conf of my Laptop but if I now querry [ command 'nslookup 101com.com' ]------- ;; Got recursion not availlable from 7847104.44, trying next server Server: 192.168.43.1 Address:

Re: Differences Between Recursion Desired and Recursion Available

2017-10-08 Thread Barry Margolin
In article <mailman.717.1507311295.702.bind-us...@lists.isc.org>, "Darcy Kevin (FCA)" <kevin.da...@fcagroup.com> wrote: > It should be noted that answering from cache, e.g. when a server gets an RD=0 > query, or if it doesn't happen to honor recursio

RE: Differences Between Recursion Desired and Recursion Available

2017-10-06 Thread Darcy Kevin (FCA)
d so forth. RFC 1034, Section 5.3.1, describes stub resolvers, and RFC 1123, Section 6.1.3.1, briefly describes the difference between stub resolvers and full-service resolvers. If a stub resolver gets a referral, because of a misconfiguration, policy-based denial of recursion by

Re: Differences Between Recursion Desired and Recursion Available

2017-10-06 Thread Barry Margolin
In article <mailman.714.1507277541.702.bind-us...@lists.isc.org>, Harshith Mulky <harshith.mu...@outlook.com> wrote: > What I am not able to understand is, What would happen when resolver does not > set Recursion Desired bit in the query it sends? If RD is not set, the se

Re: Differences Between Recursion Desired and Recursion Available

2017-10-06 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 08:11:56AM +, Harshith Mulky wrote: > What I am not able to understand is, What would happen when resolver > does not set Recursion Desired bit in the query it sends? > > If Recursion is supported on the server, Would the server do the > Referral Queries

Differences Between Recursion Desired and Recursion Available

2017-10-06 Thread Harshith Mulky
Hello Experts, I read this from RFC1035 about RD and RA Bits RD Recursion Desired - this bit may be set in a query and is copied into the response if recursion supported by this Name Server. If Recursion is rejected by this Name Server, for example it has been configured as Authoritative

Re: Slow recursion with ipv6 enabled?

2016-11-19 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Sat, 19 Nov 2016, Job wrote: on Bind 9.10 (latest version of this stable branch), i notice in some cases a relevant slowdown when resolving (for the first time) hostname, when named is launched with both ipv4 and ipv6. It use recursion to fetch for the first time the information

Slow recursion with ipv6 enabled?

2016-11-19 Thread Job
Hello, on Bind 9.10 (latest version of this stable branch), i notice in some cases a relevant slowdown when resolving (for the first time) hostname, when named is launched with both ipv4 and ipv6. It use recursion to fetch for the first time the information and i have, often, about 2000/3000ms

Re: [question] new bind option max-recursion-depth

2014-12-17 Thread Barry Margolin
of max-recursion-queries 50; ) I haven't personally seen any real world queries go more than 4 levels deep, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are a were domains out there that do. 7 seemed like a safe upper limit. Didn't someone post a problem they were having a few days ago because

Re: [question] new bind option max-recursion-depth

2014-12-17 Thread Evan Hunt
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 03:32:30AM -0500, Barry Margolin wrote: Didn't someone post a problem they were having a few days ago because of a chain of Akamai CNAMEs that exceeded the limit? Recursion depth is about how many layers deep you have to go to resolve an NS address. CNAME chains have

Re: [question] new bind option max-recursion-depth

2014-12-17 Thread Barry Margolin
? Recursion depth is about how many layers deep you have to go to resolve an NS address. CNAME chains have different limits on them. But each CNAME is in a different domain, and their nameservers were in yet other domains. So while resolving the CNAME chain, you also have to perform several levels

Re: [question] new bind option max-recursion-depth

2014-12-17 Thread Evan Hunt
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 05:20:09PM -0500, Barry Margolin wrote: But each CNAME is in a different domain, and their nameservers were in yet other domains. So while resolving the CNAME chain, you also have to perform several levels of recursion. Does the max-recursion-depth limit apply to all

Re: [question] new bind option max-recursion-depth

2014-12-17 Thread Techs_Maru
-recursion-queries 50; ) I haven't personally seen any real world queries go more than 4 levels deep, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are a were domains out there that do. 7 seemed like a safe upper limit. The default max-recursion-queries value of 50, we got by testing with a sample of real

Re: [question] new bind option max-recursion-depth

2014-12-16 Thread Techs_Maru
Hi,Evan, Thank you for replying. I was able to understand, try setting to test servers. Thanks. However, if the value of the default 7 would be the value that was created based on the world data ? ( Also for the default value of max-recursion-queries 50; ) I want to know the recommended

Re: [question] new bind option max-recursion-depth

2014-12-16 Thread Evan Hunt
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 01:30:35PM +0900, Techs_Maru wrote: However, if the value of the default 7 would be the value that was created based on the world data ? ( Also for the default value of max-recursion-queries 50; ) I haven't personally seen any real world queries go more than 4 levels

[question] new bind option max-recursion-depth

2014-12-15 Thread Techs_Maru
Hi, Bind-user folks, I have a question, about Vulnerability CVE-2014-8500 new bind option max-recursion-depth, I do not know this option meaning. I read ARM Documents I used Bind Version is 9.9.6-P1. -- max-recursion-depth Sets the maximum number of levels

Re: [question] new bind option max-recursion-depth

2014-12-15 Thread Evan Hunt
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:13:17AM +0900, Techs_Maru wrote: But, max-recursion-depth, However, it tried but it did not become a Servfail. Meaning of is is Indirections is described in the document, it means that when the authority server that does not come directly returns the IP address

Re: Problem with BIND 9.10.1-P1 recursion limits

2014-12-10 Thread David A. Evans
How does the max-recursion-queries counter interact with DNSSEC validation and RPZ validation? Are the queries for these checks included in the max-recursion-queries count or are they in a separate queue? Why I am asking: I've been running through my test of the new code and getting a few

Problem with BIND 9.10.1-P1 recursion limits

2014-12-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
The new recursion limits (or at least the default values for them) seem to have some problems. Simple example, if I start named for recursive service, no forwarders, debugging enabled, and run dig @::1 www.ibm.com a I get a failure with numerous exceeded max queries log entries for gtld servers

Re: Problem with BIND 9.10.1-P1 recursion limits

2014-12-09 Thread Evan Hunt
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 02:45:13PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: The new recursion limits (or at least the default values for them) seem to have some problems. Simple example, if I start named for recursive service, no forwarders, debugging enabled, and run dig @::1 www.ibm.com a I get

Re: Problem with BIND 9.10.1-P1 recursion limits

2014-12-09 Thread Tony Finch
Evan Hunt e...@isc.org wrote: However, in this case I think it's because you had an empty cache, and sending a second query will clear the problem up. In a future release, we may want to lift the restrictions temporarily while priming. Yes, I could reproduce it after flushing my cache. Had

Re: Problem with BIND 9.10.1-P1 recursion limits

2014-12-09 Thread Evan Hunt
running unreleased code, there. Servfail-ttl is a feature slated for 9.11, but the recursion limits have only been added in the past few weeks as a patch for the infinite DNS bug, and we're clearly going to have to modify the SERVFAIL caching feature in light of this new reality. (We might arrange

Re: Problem with BIND 9.10.1-P1 recursion limits

2014-12-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
the default servfail-ttl is 10s. You're running unreleased code, there. Servfail-ttl is a feature slated for 9.11, but the recursion limits have only been added in the past few weeks as a patch for the infinite DNS bug, and we're clearly going to have to modify the SERVFAIL caching feature

Re: Problem with BIND 9.10.1-P1 recursion limits

2014-12-09 Thread Evan Hunt
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 05:46:36PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: It's 5 minutes with 9.10.1-P1 as well. That's unexpected. I'll see if I can reproduce it. -- Evan Hunt -- e...@isc.org Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. ___ Please visit

Re: Problem with BIND 9.10.1-P1 recursion limits

2014-12-09 Thread Evan Hunt
* zones (ihost.com, akam.net, and akadns.org, in addition to akadns.net and akamaiedge.net). I had to almost double the maximum recursion queries to 99 to get this to work on an empty cache. Yikes. Almost any non-empty cache will dodge the bullet. Preceeding the lookup of www.ibm.com with dig @::1

Re: Problem with BIND 9.10.1-P1 recursion limits

2014-12-09 Thread Mike Hoskins (michoski)
...@dotat.at, bind-users@lists.isc.org bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: Problem with BIND 9.10.1-P1 recursion limits On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 05:51:58PM +, Evan Hunt wrote: That's unexpected. I'll see if I can reproduce it. Okay, I can. Part of the problem is the somewhat crazypants DNS

Re: Problem with BIND 9.10.1-P1 recursion limits

2014-12-09 Thread Charles Swiger
Hi-- On Dec 9, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Mike Hoskins (michoski) micho...@cisco.com wrote: Wanted to point out that (perhaps sadly) this isn't so crazypants...or at least not uncommon. The *edge* and *aka* references speak Akamai DNS+CDN. From my last overview, this has gotten cleaner in the latest

slave: WARNING: recursion requested but not available

2014-06-06 Thread Reindl Harald
: recursion requested but not available even if you dig a A-record he is authoritative? asking the master the same question spots no warning my understanding is in case of slave/master there should be no difference in case of normal queries well, all works fine, but it annoys and i try to avoid any

Re: slave: WARNING: recursion requested but not available

2014-06-06 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 06.06.14 13:13, Reindl Harald wrote: why does in case of asking the slave always come a WARNING: recursion requested but not available even if you dig a A-record he is authoritative? because you request recursion and the server does not provide it. use dig +norecurse not to request

Re: slave: WARNING: recursion requested but not available

2014-06-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.06.2014 13:28, schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: On 06.06.14 13:13, Reindl Harald wrote: why does in case of asking the slave always come a WARNING: recursion requested but not available even if you dig a A-record he is authoritative? because you request recursion and the server does

Re: slave: WARNING: recursion requested but not available

2014-06-06 Thread Phil Mayers
On 06/06/14 12:35, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 06.06.2014 13:28, schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: On 06.06.14 13:13, Reindl Harald wrote: why does in case of asking the slave always come a WARNING: recursion requested but not available even if you dig a A-record he is authoritative? because you

Re: slave: WARNING: recursion requested but not available

2014-06-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.06.2014 13:40, schrieb Phil Mayers: On 06/06/14 12:35, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 06.06.2014 13:28, schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: On 06.06.14 13:13, Reindl Harald wrote: why does in case of asking the slave always come a WARNING: recursion requested but not available even if you dig

Re: slave: WARNING: recursion requested but not available

2014-06-06 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.371.1402054553.26362.bind-us...@lists.isc.org, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 06.06.2014 13:28, schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: On 06.06.14 13:13, Reindl Harald wrote: why does in case of asking the slave always come a WARNING: recursion requested

Re: slave: WARNING: recursion requested but not available

2014-06-06 Thread Kevin Darcy
On 6/6/2014 7:35 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 06.06.2014 13:28, schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: On 06.06.14 13:13, Reindl Harald wrote: why does in case of asking the slave always come a WARNING: recursion requested but not available even if you dig a A-record he is authoritative? because you

Re: slave: WARNING: recursion requested but not available

2014-06-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.06.2014 20:20, schrieb Kevin Darcy: On 6/6/2014 7:35 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 06.06.2014 13:28, schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: On 06.06.14 13:13, Reindl Harald wrote: why does in case of asking the slave always come a WARNING: recursion requested but not available even if you dig

Re: Recursive BIND server doesn't execute recursion for IPv6 fd00::/8 reverse zone

2013-11-26 Thread Phil Mayers
On 25/11/13 22:46, Listas wrote: On 25-11-2013 15:42, Phil Mayers wrote: 2. Put a proper zone cut (delegation) into your local master, pointing at your authoritative server Thanks Phil. Your help has been valuable. I think this is exactly what I'm doing here: As Barry pointed out: no.

Recursive BIND server doesn't execute recursion for IPv6 fd00::/8 reverse zone

2013-11-25 Thread Listas
Hi, I'm enabling IPv6 dual stack in my network and my Bind authoritative servers are working perfectly with the ip6.arpa zones. But my Recursive DNS server cannot resolve the reverse zone records from my private network. I tried to make a setup similar to what I do for my private network

Re: Recursive BIND server doesn't execute recursion for IPv6 fd00::/8 reverse zone

2013-11-25 Thread Phil Mayers
On 25/11/13 16:16, Listas wrote: Hi, I'm enabling IPv6 dual stack in my network and my Bind authoritative servers are working perfectly with the ip6.arpa zones. But my Recursive DNS server cannot resolve the reverse zone records from my private network. I tried to make a setup similar to what

Re: Recursive BIND server doesn't execute recursion for IPv6 fd00::/8 reverse zone

2013-11-25 Thread Listas
On 25-11-2013 14:22, Phil Mayers wrote: No, because you told your recursive it was authoritative and gave it an empty zone file. Thank you Phil. But it is a private network zone. The query cannot go to the DNS root servers, must be forwarded to the authoritative server for the zone

Re: Recursive BIND server doesn't execute recursion for IPv6 fd00::/8 reverse zone

2013-11-25 Thread Phil Mayers
On 25/11/13 17:31, Listas wrote: On 25-11-2013 14:22, Phil Mayers wrote: No, because you told your recursive it was authoritative and gave it an empty zone file. Thank you Phil. But it is a private network zone. The query cannot go to the DNS root servers, must be forwarded to the

Re: Recursive BIND server doesn't execute recursion for IPv6 fd00::/8 reverse zone

2013-11-25 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.1748.1385400711.20661.bind-us...@lists.isc.org, Listas lis...@adminlinux.com.br wrote: On 25-11-2013 14:22, Phil Mayers wrote: No, because you told your recursive it was authoritative and gave it an empty zone file. Thank you Phil. But it is a private network

Re: Recursive BIND server doesn't execute recursion for IPv6 fd00::/8 reverse zone

2013-11-25 Thread Listas
On 25-11-2013 15:42, Phil Mayers wrote: 2. Put a proper zone cut (delegation) into your local master, pointing at your authoritative server Thanks Phil. Your help has been valuable. I think this is exactly what I'm doing here: Recursive Bind server - /etc/bind/db.fd00.f3e2.38a5: $TTL

Re: Recursive BIND server doesn't execute recursion for IPv6 fd00::/8 reverse zone

2013-11-25 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.1752.1385419606.20661.bind-us...@lists.isc.org, Listas lis...@adminlinux.com.br wrote: On 25-11-2013 15:42, Phil Mayers wrote: 2. Put a proper zone cut (delegation) into your local master, pointing at your authoritative server Thanks Phil. Your help has been

Re: Allow recursion for esternal resources in a authoritative zone on a not open dns server

2013-11-19 Thread Carsten Strotmann
Hello Stefano, the standard query path for DNS is client - caching DNS - authoritative DNS Your BIND Server is probably on the very right of that picture, the authoritative (only) server. Such an authoritative only server only answers with data it is authoritative for (like you described). In

Re: Allow recursion for esternal resources in a authoritative zone on a not open dns server

2013-11-19 Thread Tony Finch
Barry Margolin bar...@alum.mit.edu wrote: If the server is authoritative for both the CNAME and the target of the CNAME, no recursion should be necessary -- the target is already in its memory. Doesn't the server normally fill in the whole CNAME chain in this case? Yes - see the additional

Allow recursion for esternal resources in a authoritative zone on a not open dns server

2013-11-18 Thread Chiesa Stefano
Hello all. I have a closed bind dns server. It answers only to queries related to zones it is authoritative for (a normal behaviour... right?). I have dns zones that contain cname that points to hostnames in domains not managed by that server. So it won't resolve that names returning the cname to

Re: Allow recursion for esternal resources in a authoritative zone on a not open dns server

2013-11-18 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 18.11.13 13:57, Chiesa Stefano wrote: I have a closed bind dns server. It answers only to queries related to zones it is authoritative for (a normal behaviour... right?). I have dns zones that contain cname that points to hostnames in domains not managed by that server. So it won't resolve

Re: Allow recursion for esternal resources in a authoritative zone on a not open dns server

2013-11-18 Thread Mark Andrews
In message e81ed6071f7e3e44a69bc960c04469250c1a2...@s-mi-mail2.milano.wkitaly.it, Chiesa Stefano writes: Hello all. I have a closed bind dns server. It answers only to queries related to zones it is authoritative for (a normal behaviour... right?). I have dns zones that contain cname that

Re: Allow recursion for esternal resources in a authoritative zone on a not open dns server

2013-11-18 Thread Barry Margolin
is in a domain managed by you, resolve (do recourse) Do you know if it is possible? No. If the server is authoritative for both the CNAME and the target of the CNAME, no recursion should be necessary -- the target is already in its memory. Doesn't the server normally fill in the whole CNAME

Re: Allow recursion for esternal resources in a authoritative zone on a not open dns server

2013-11-18 Thread Mark Andrews
Stefano writes: I'd like to know if there is a way to tell to BIND if the external resource is in a domain managed by you, resolve (do recourse) Do you know if it is possible? No. If the server is authoritative for both the CNAME and the target of the CNAME, no recursion should

Re: Allow recursion for esternal resources in a authoritative zone on a not open dns server

2013-11-18 Thread Barry Margolin
? No. If the server is authoritative for both the CNAME and the target of the CNAME, no recursion should be necessary -- the target is already in its memory. Doesn't the server normally fill in the whole CNAME chain in this case? The targets of the CNAME records

Recursion issue

2013-03-28 Thread Manson, John
My external authoritative dns does not allow recursion. We have vanity names like speaker.gov. When we add an entry like: www.speaker.govhttp://www.speaker.gov CNAME www.house.govhttp://www.house.gov it fails because of the recursion statement even though the external dns

Re: Recursion issue

2013-03-28 Thread Chris Buxton
On Mar 28, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Manson, John wrote: My external authoritative dns does not allow recursion. We have vanity names like speaker.gov. When we add an entry like: www.speaker.gov CNAMEwww.house.gov it fails because of the recursion statement even though the external dns

RE: Recursion issue

2013-03-28 Thread Manson, John
:00) So the first lookup does not fully resolve due to recursion. Does this help? -Original Message- From: Chris Buxton [mailto:cli...@buxtonfamily.us] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:13 AM To: Manson, John Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: Recursion issue On Mar 28, 2013, at 7

Re: Recursion issue

2013-03-28 Thread Chris Buxton
testwww.house.gov IN A 12.13.14.15 900s(00:15:00) So the first lookup does not fully resolve due to recursion. Does this help? Yes it does. It just doesn't all get answered from the one zone. Both of your public servers, chyron and mercury, contain both zones. A non-recursive query

RE: Recursion issue

2013-03-28 Thread Manson, John
: test.gopleader@mercury.house.gov: test.gopleader.gov. 300 IN CNAME testwww.house.gov. -Original Message- From: Chris Buxton [mailto:cli...@buxtonfamily.us] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:49 AM To: Manson, John Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: Recursion issue On Mar 28

RE: Recursion issue

2013-03-28 Thread Manson, John
I disagree with your statement about recursion. What stops an authoritative server from doing recursion if you do not have the recursion statement? I guess the bind default is recursion yes. -Original Message- From: Chris Buxton [mailto:cli...@buxtonfamily.us] Sent: Thursday, March 28

Re: Recursion issue

2013-03-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 28.03.13 16:05, Manson, John wrote: I disagree with your statement about recursion. What stops an authoritative server from doing recursion if you do not have the recursion statement? I guess the bind default is recursion yes. if your server does not allow recursion, it will still

Re: Recursion issue

2013-03-28 Thread Chris Buxton
On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Manson, John wrote: I disagree with your statement about recursion. What stops an authoritative server from doing recursion if you do not have the recursion statement? I guess the bind default is recursion yes. OK, bad choice of words on my part. I did not mean

RE: Recursion issue

2013-03-28 Thread Manson, John
...@buxtonfamily.us] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:57 PM To: Manson, John Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: Recursion issue On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Manson, John wrote: I disagree with your statement about recursion. What stops an authoritative server from doing recursion if you do

Re: Recursion issue

2013-03-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 28.03.13 17:09, Manson, John wrote: Maybe my understanding of how bind works is faulty. I thought bind would do the leg work to get an IP. Especially when it is authoritative for CNAME domain. Even a dig on mercury gives the same 'no IP' result. Sorry for the bother. I got the same result

Recursion Issue

2013-03-28 Thread Manson, John
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Re: Recursion Issue

2013-03-28 Thread Chris Buxton
I looked at it -- it's now going to Akamai. The result shown here shows what's called a dangling CNAME -- your CNAME record, pointing to an outside resource. A resolving name server (one with recursion enabled) will then follow that to Akamai, giving this result: test.gopleader.gov. 300

Re: 3rd party CNAMEs and open recursion

2013-03-05 Thread Chris Buxton
On Mar 4, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Verne Britton wrote: I have been testing and testing and either just don't see what I'm doing wrong, or have a learning block :-) current thinking is that a open recursion DNS server is bad, so we want to implement an allow-recursion clause; perhaps even

3rd party CNAMEs and open recursion

2013-03-04 Thread Verne Britton
I have been testing and testing and either just don't see what I'm doing wrong, or have a learning block :-) current thinking is that a open recursion DNS server is bad, so we want to implement an allow-recursion clause; perhaps even make some views so our local users still recurse while

Re: 3rd party CNAMEs and open recursion

2013-03-04 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.1592.1362422631.11945.bind-us...@lists.isc.org, Verne Britton ve...@wvnet.edu wrote: I have been testing and testing and either just don't see what I'm doing wrong, or have a learning block :-) current thinking is that a open recursion DNS server is bad, so we want

Re: 3rd party CNAMEs and open recursion

2013-03-04 Thread John Miller
- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 23091 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;gmail.com. IN A So from my side of things, all of your requirements are being met ;-) Can

Re: 3rd party CNAMEs and open recursion

2013-03-04 Thread Kevin Darcy
block :-) current thinking is that a open recursion DNS server is bad, so we want to implement an allow-recursion clause; perhaps even make some views so our local users still recurse while the general public cannot ... but I am running into a roadblock with our Google Apps cname

Re: 3rd party CNAMEs and open recursion

2013-03-04 Thread Vernon Schryver
and/or topologically diverse when they're on the Internet) the only technical fix that comes to mind is to set up some sort of crypto-authentication of your client's queries (e.g. TSIG or GSS-TSIG) on the endpoints. You could use that to allow/deny recursion and/or match views. Yes

allow-recursion slowing server to crawl

2013-02-27 Thread Marco C. Coelho
is below. I've commented it out so as to enable my network to run. There are thousands of my clients that need recursion from this server. It is also authoritative for many domains. There is a semi busy mail server on this same box that uses DNS as well. I googled this to death with no real

Re: allow-recursion slowing server to crawl

2013-02-27 Thread Mark Andrews
to run. There are thousands of my clients that need recursion from this server. It is also authoritative for many domains. There is a semi busy mail server on this same box that uses DNS as well. I googled this to death with no real suggestions. I've tried it with ACL and without

Re: allow-recursion slowing server to crawl

2013-02-27 Thread Marco C. Coelho
so as to enable my network to run. There are thousands of my clients that need recursion from this server. It is also authoritative for many domains. There is a semi busy mail server on this same box that uses DNS as well. I googled this to death with no real suggestions. I've tried it with ACL

Re: allow-recursion slowing server to crawl

2013-02-27 Thread Vernon Schryver
requests. The problem is every time I enable this, the time for DNS queries goes from 0-1ms to 2000-6000ms or just times out completely. There are thousands of my clients that need recursion from this server. It is also authoritative for many domains. There is a semi busy mail server

Re: allow-recursion slowing server to crawl

2013-02-27 Thread Mark Andrews
to run. There are thousands of my clients that need recursion from this server. It is also authoritative for many domains. There is a semi busy mail server on this same box that uses DNS as well. I googled this to death with no real suggestions. I've tried it with ACL and without

Can I disable caching without disabling recursion?

2012-07-10 Thread rams
Hi , Can I disable cache without disabling recursion? Thanks Regards, Ramesh ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org

Re: Can I disable caching without disabling recursion?

2012-07-10 Thread Warren Kumari
On Jul 10, 2012, at 2:37 AM, rams wrote: Hi , Can I disable cache without disabling recursion? For many of your questions is would be really helpful if you explained *why* you wanting to do X / what you are trying to accomplish… For example, forwarding may be what you want here

Re: external view recursion issue

2012-03-16 Thread Ben Croswell
is an alias for record.client.otherdomain.com. record.client.otherdomain.com is an alias for otherhost.otherdomain.com. otherhost.otherdomain.com has address x.x.x.x To duplicate this exactly on our servers, it appears that I have to enable recursion but the provider said that they are not doing that. I

Re: external view recursion issue

2012-03-16 Thread WBrown
Who will be using this in-house DNS server? Your local users? If yes, then you will need to enable recursion so they can look up outside resources (google.com, etc.) If this server will strictly be an authoritative server for your domain, then it won't need recursion but queries that return

Re: external view recursion issue

2012-03-16 Thread WBrown
sam.fait...@gmail.com wrote on 03/16/2012 03:09:52 PM: From: Samantha Steers sam.fait...@gmail.com To: wbr...@e1b.org, Date: 03/16/2012 03:09 PM Subject: Re: external view recursion issue Thank you for getting back to me. We have a set up with internal and external views. The internal

BIND trying to use IPv6 for recursion

2012-01-13 Thread Ian Pilcher
I am a relative newbie to running BIND in production. I have recently set up BIND 9.7 (on CentOS 6.2) as the nameserver for my home network. I am using Google's public DNS servers (8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 as my forwarders). My ISP does not support IPv6, and none of the network interfaces on the

Re: BIND trying to use IPv6 for recursion

2012-01-13 Thread Bill Owens
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:20:39AM -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote: I am a relative newbie to running BIND in production. I have recently set up BIND 9.7 (on CentOS 6.2) as the nameserver for my home network. I am using Google's public DNS servers (8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 as my forwarders). My ISP

Re: BIND trying to use IPv6 for recursion

2012-01-13 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 01/13/2012 11:50 AM, Bill Owens wrote: I'm not familiar with CentOS, but I would be surprised to hear that any modern Linux distro didn't have IPv6 enabled by default; you should see at least link-local addresses on your active interfaces (address family inet6, beginning with fe80::) I'm

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