[bitcoin-dev] BIP- & SLIP-0039 -- better multi-language support

2018-11-23 Thread Weiji Guo via bitcoin-dev
Hi Everyone, Thank you very much in this thanks giving day for the detailed and well thought out responses. :) Steven Hatzakis via bitcoin-dev https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>>: >* *Option 2*: Perhaps a revision is needed to how the BIP39 seed is *>* generated in

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP- & SLIP-0039 -- better multi-language support

2018-11-19 Thread Natanael via bitcoin-dev
Den mån 19 nov. 2018 21:21 skrev Steven Hatzakis via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>: > Hi Weiji, and Everyone, > > I think this is an important topic so sharing my two cents in case in > helps: It makes sense for users to know that they can't merely just > translate a word

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP- & SLIP-0039 -- better multi-language support

2018-11-19 Thread Steven Hatzakis via bitcoin-dev
; mnemonic, that might not be "valid" in another wallet which may format the data differently before hashing to compute the checksum. Best regards, Steven Hatzakis ___________ [bitcoin-dev] BIP- & SLIP-0039 -- better multi-language support*Weiji Guo* weiji.g at gmail.com *Tue

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP- & SLIP-0039 -- better multi-language support

2018-11-16 Thread Neill Miller via bitcoin-dev
On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 02:17:30PM +0900, Jonathan Underwood via bitcoin-dev wrote: > If more apps would implement to the word of the BIP39 spec, multiple > languages make sense, but since reality is no one follows the spec (/the > spec is way too open to interpretation) then expecting every app

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP- & SLIP-0039 -- better multi-language support

2018-11-16 Thread Neill Miller via bitcoin-dev
Ah, ok. I've worked with the non-BIP39 Electrum mnemonics, which have this behaviour, but haven't tried the BIP39 support within it. Thanks, -Neill. On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 11:05:50PM +0900, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > Nope. > > This is how Electrum treats BIP39 restoring as well, try it out.

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP- & SLIP-0039 -- better multi-language support

2018-11-16 Thread Jonathan Underwood via bitcoin-dev
Nope. This is how Electrum treats BIP39 restoring as well, try it out. -Jon 2018年11月16日(金) 23:04、Neill Miller さん(nei...@thecodefactory.org)のメッセージ: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 02:17:30PM +0900, Jonathan Underwood via > bitcoin-dev wrote: > > If more apps would implement to the word of the BIP39

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP- & SLIP-0039 -- better multi-language support

2018-11-08 Thread Jonathan Underwood via bitcoin-dev
a valid segwit electrum seed. > > > [0]: > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2018-January/015507.html > [1]: http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/seedphrase.html > > > > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 00:16:41 +0800 > > From: Weiji Guo weij...@gmail.com > &

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP- & SLIP-0039 -- better multi-language support

2018-11-08 Thread SomberNight via bitcoin-dev
d. [0]: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2018-January/015507.html [1]: http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/seedphrase.html > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 00:16:41 +0800 > From: Weiji Guo weij...@gmail.com > Subject: [bitcoin-dev] BIP- & SLIP-0039 -- better multi-language > suppor

[bitcoin-dev] BIP- & SLIP-0039 -- better multi-language support

2018-11-06 Thread Weiji Guo via bitcoin-dev
Hello everyone, I just realized that BIP-0039 is language dependent. I was assuming the other way till I looked closer. The way the seed is derived from a BIP-0039 entropy, as is shown below, depends on which language to generate the mnemonic sentence: Entropy <=> Mnemonic Sentence => PBKDF2