Re: BBConf and Meta keys

2002-06-05 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 23:01:52 -0500 xOr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 06:18:46PM -0400, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote: Yay! Inherited bug! =:D I don't think this is a bug at all. If X doesn't recognise the keypresses how are the applications supposed to get a key press

Re: alpha8 window placement problem

2002-06-05 Thread xOr
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 10:39:58PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Could always add another 9 lines and make it an option in the Window Placement menu.. :) Ignore Sticky Windows would go well beside Ignore Full-Maximized Windows. you'll actually have a patch for this coming

OT: versioning?

2002-06-05 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
Okay, so this has really nothing to do with the development or use of a window manager, but it's something I've been curious about in my 2.5+ years of Linux experience: Why do most of the good X window managers have 0.xx versions after years of development? For example, I've used Enlightenment

Re: OT: versioning?

2002-06-05 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On 05 Jun 2002 11:27:50 -0400 Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do most of the good X window managers have 0.xx versions after years of development? For example, I've used Enlightenment (various versions from 0.14.x through 0.16.5), WindowMaker (from versions 0.75 -

Re: OT: versioning?

2002-06-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
What are the developers' thoughts on the matter? what makes 1.0 sound better than 0.60.2 or 10.3.1 or ab.de.e.4? In my experience the only important thing is that you can look at the version and compare it to the one you have and that there is a new revision somewhat often (depends on the

Re: OT: versioning?

2002-06-05 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 11:46, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: What are the developers' thoughts on the matter? what makes 1.0 sound better than 0.60.2 or 10.3.1 or ab.de.e.4? In my experience the only important thing is that you can look at the version and compare it to the one you have

Re: OT: versioning?

2002-06-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 05-Jun-2002 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 11:46, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: What are the developers' thoughts on the matter? what makes 1.0 sound better than 0.60.2 or 10.3.1 or ab.de.e.4? In my experience the only important thing is that you can look at

Re: OT: versioning?

2002-06-05 Thread mikshaw
True, but it seems many folks won't put themselves into a position to deal with it at all when they see all these 0.x versions. When i first started researching open source projects a couple years ago, I thought What the heck? Does no one have a stable program finished? It took a while

shading and window tiling

2002-06-05 Thread David Bonner
Saw all the negative reactions to the new layout feature, and thought I'd chime in with a positive one. I much prefer this method of layout to the old one. If I've shaded a window, I don't want it to figure into the layout calculations. -- david bonner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: shading and window tiling

2002-06-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 05-Jun-2002 David Bonner wrote: Saw all the negative reactions to the new layout feature, and thought I'd chime in with a positive one. I much prefer this method of layout to the old one. If I've shaded a window, I don't want it to figure into the layout calculations. It seems that

Re: shading and window tiling

2002-06-05 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 15:44:21 -0400 David Bonner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw all the negative reactions to the new layout feature, and thought I'd chime in with a positive one. I much prefer this method of layout to the old one. If I've shaded a window, I don't want it to figure into the

Re: shading and window tiling

2002-06-05 Thread dan radom
it sure seems like people are somewhat passionate about their window shading and placement prefreences. sounds like a toggleable config option would please everyone :) dan * David Bonner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Saw all the negative reactions to the new layout feature, and thought I'd

Re: shading and window tiling

2002-06-05 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Wed, Jun05,02 14:46, Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 15:44:21 -0400 David Bonner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw all the negative reactions to the new layout feature, and thought I'd chime in with a positive one. I much prefer this method of layout to the old one. If I've

Re: shading and window tiling

2002-06-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I haven't used it yet (just been too lazy to try out any of the CVS'), but I KNOW I'll like this. I do make alpha releases for a reason (-:

Re: shading and window tiling

2002-06-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 05-Jun-2002 dan radom wrote: it sure seems like people are somewhat passionate about their window shading and placement prefreences. sounds like a toggleable config option would please everyone :) more to the point, no matter what we change there will always be some group of people who

Re: shading and window tiling

2002-06-05 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Wed, Jun05,02 12:58, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: I haven't used it yet (just been too lazy to try out any of the CVS'), but I KNOW I'll like this. I do make alpha releases for a reason (-: heh... yeah... unfortunately, my window manager doesn't affect me much these days. I've

Re: shading and window tiling

2002-06-05 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 13:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But as long as we hear praise or complaint it means people are still using Blackbox and Brad and I are not entirely wasting our time. Don't let the praise/complaints confuse you. These are just automated

Re: bb crash

2002-06-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 05-Jun-2002 Sascha Huedepohl wrote: Hi, first i would like to apologize for my bad englisch :) I think i found a bug in the latest blackbox alpha8. And i'm not proud of it ;) I like Blackbox verry much! I do the following: - start Blackbox - wait until all the Dockapps fire up -

Re: OT: versioning?

2002-06-05 Thread Scott Furt
mikshaw wrote: True, but it seems many folks won't put themselves into a position to deal with it at all when they see all these 0.x versions. When i first started researching open source projects a couple years ago, I thought What the heck? Does no one have a stable program finished?

Re: shading and window tiling

2002-06-05 Thread Scott Furt
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On 05-Jun-2002 dan radom wrote: it sure seems like people are somewhat passionate about their window shading and placement prefreences. sounds like a toggleable config option would please everyone :) more to the point, no matter what we change there will

Icon menu oddity (alpha8)

2002-06-05 Thread Martin Rowe
Hi all Just noted an odd effect on the icon menu. If I hover the mouse over an item there for more than a second or two, the style effect for mouse-over disappears - ie. it appears unselected again. To explain what I mean (don't know the technical terms), try setting style to 'Minimal' and

alpha8

2002-06-05 Thread Derek Cunningham
k... I'm running it... yes, it does seem snappier... sweeet. I really do like that ignore-shaded change... makes alot more sense. also REALLY love the new struct... is there some quick way I could redefine it? I have bbpager down in the bottom right, and I'd absolutely love it if 'maximize'

alpha8 - maximization stuff

2002-06-05 Thread Derek Cunningham
Hmm... so I notice that when you maximize, then resize, the maximize button will re-maximize (ie: maximization was turned off after the resize). However, if I maximize the window, then MOVE it, maximization is not turned off. For consistency sake, wouldn't that be a good idea... it also seems

Re: Icon menu oddity (alpha8)

2002-06-05 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Thu, Jun06,02 06:25, Martin Rowe wrote: Hi all Just noted an odd effect on the icon menu. If I hover the mouse over an item there for more than a second or two, the style effect for mouse-over disappears - ie. it appears unselected again. To explain what I mean (don't know the

Re: alpha8 - maximization stuff

2002-06-05 Thread Matt Wilson
ok... another thought. Would it be desired to have resizing snap to the screen (well, the struct) edges? agreed, that would make a lot of sense (not to mention be very useful) also, how about opaque resizing, like opaque moving? Matt.

Re: Icon menu oddity (alpha8)

2002-06-05 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Thu, Jun06,02 17:49, Matt Wilson wrote: Just noted an odd effect on the icon menu. If I hover the mouse over an item there for more than a second or two, the style effect for mouse-over disappears - ie. it appears unselected again. To explain what I mean (don't know the technical

Re: alpha8 - maximization stuff

2002-06-05 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Thu, Jun06,02 17:50, Matt Wilson wrote: ok... another thought. Would it be desired to have resizing snap to the screen (well, the struct) edges? agreed, that would make a lot of sense (not to mention be very useful) also, how about opaque resizing, like opaque moving? Matt. That