Multiple desktop environments (#2172)

2007-01-22 Thread Dan Nicholson
I'm hoping some people on the list can help save me some time. There's currently a bug #2172 about how XFCE needs to have the XDG_CONFIG_DIRS variable set to /etc/xdg to see the menus even though that's the default location. When I started to investigate why this would happen, I realized that

Re: Multiple desktop environments (#2172)

2007-01-22 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/22/07, Alexander E. Patrakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Nicholson wrote: http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html As far as I understand the current situation, BLFS violates the following bit of the specification: Specifications may reference this

Re: Multiple desktop environments (#2172)

2007-01-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan Nicholson wrote: On 1/22/07, Alexander E. Patrakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Nicholson wrote: http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html As far as I understand the current situation, BLFS violates the following bit of the specification: Specifications may

Re: Multiple desktop environments (#2172)

2007-01-22 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/22/07, Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/22/07 08:59 CST: Any takers? I am willing to contribute whatever information you need from my GNOME and KDE installation. As I mentioned before, when running KDE I don't set *any* XDG stuff (and KDE

Re: Multiple desktop environments (#2172)

2007-01-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/22/07 11:55 CST: So, the test is this. If you have KDE in /opt/kde without /opt/kde/share in XDG_DATA_DIRS, do you still see the applications in the GNOME menus? You can also go the other direction if you have GNOME in /opt/gnome and start a KDE session.

Re: Multiple desktop environments (#2172)

2007-01-22 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/22/07, Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/22/07 11:55 CST: So, the test is this. If you have KDE in /opt/kde without /opt/kde/share in XDG_DATA_DIRS, do you still see the applications in the GNOME menus? You can also go the other direction if

Re: Multiple desktop environments (#2172)

2007-01-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/22/07 12:38 CST: So, apparently you can put them all together at the same time because GNOME wasn't weird at all. I'm confused now. As was I, hence me removing the If you have both GNOME and KDE installed: stuff from the book. I'm more than willing to try

Re: Multiple desktop environments (#2172)

2007-01-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/22/07 12:38 CST: So, apparently you can put them all together at the same time because GNOME wasn't weird at all. I'm confused now. One other thought: I experienced issues when both desktops were sharing XDG vars *and* I ran update-desktop-database. There

Re: Multiple desktop environments (#2172)

2007-01-22 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/22/07, Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/22/07 12:38 CST: So, apparently you can put them all together at the same time because GNOME wasn't weird at all. I'm confused now. As was I, hence me removing the If you have both GNOME and KDE

Re: Multiple desktop environments (#2172)

2007-01-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 01/22/07 12:53 CST: So, I'd try these settings and see what happens. export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/gnome/xdg:/etc/kde/xdg:/etc/xdg export XDG_DATA_DIRS=/opt/gnome/share:/opt/kde/share:/usr/share:/usr/local/share And /etc/kde/share in XDG_DATA_DIRS if it

Re: Multiple desktop environments (#2172)

2007-01-22 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 01/22/07 14:06 CST: Okay, here's the first round of results, and surprisingly, the only real issue I see is that the GNOME desktop displays the KDE .desktop files so you end up with a bunch of KDE (for me just about 7 icons) clutter on the GNOME desktop.

Re: Multiple desktop environments (#2172)

2007-01-22 Thread Joe Ciccone
Randy McMurchy wrote: I wonder now what would happen if I removed all XDG vars? Would GNOME behave normally? I'll test if you think it could be of any value. The menu's will probably be empty. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: Multiple desktop environments (#2172)

2007-01-22 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/22/07, Joe Ciccone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randy McMurchy wrote: I wonder now what would happen if I removed all XDG vars? Would GNOME behave normally? I'll test if you think it could be of any value. The menu's will probably be empty. The way I can tell, GNOME wouldn't behave

FTP Repo Updates and a few missing patches

2007-01-22 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Hi guys, BLFS looks busy! Anyways, got back from a short vacation and just finished updates there. Looks good, only a few things missing or that I couldn't find: 1. firefox and thunderbird 1.5.0.9 patches aren't available at the URL's in the book:

Re: FTP Repo Updates and a few missing patches

2007-01-22 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/22/07, Justin R. Knierim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. firefox and thunderbird 1.5.0.9 patches aren't available at the URL's in the book: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/patches/blfs/svn/firefox-1.5.0.9-system_nss-1.patch

fontconfig build error

2007-01-22 Thread DJ Lucas
Hello. Anybody built fontconfig with docbook utils and not SGMLSpm/JadeTeX? Seems the --disable-docs switch isn't doing what it is supposed to do... make[2]: Entering directory `/sources/fontconfig-2.3.2/fc-cache' rm -f fc-cache.1 docbook2man ../fc-cache/fc-cache.sgml Using catalogs:

Re: Xorg-7.1+ packages

2007-01-22 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/21/07, Dan Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since we're getting close, I just wanted to make sure it was still alright that I do this. There will be very little change to the book. Most of the changes will go into the wget lists and md5sums file. Although, we do get to drop a few

Re: Xorg-7.1+ packages

2007-01-22 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/21/07, Dan Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since we're getting close, I just wanted to make sure it was still alright that I do this. There will be very little change to the book. Most of the changes will go into the wget lists and md5sums file. Although, we do get to drop a few

Re: Xorg-7.1+ packages

2007-01-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan Nicholson wrote: On 1/21/07, Dan Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since we're getting close, I just wanted to make sure it was still alright that I do this. There will be very little change to the book. Most of the changes will go into the wget lists and md5sums file. Although, we do

Re: Xorg-7.1+ packages

2007-01-22 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/22/07, Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Nicholson wrote: One thought is to put them in the patches repo. Another thought is to make a xorg-modular directory in the BLFS repo and change the render script to copy these to some standard location. Another possibility is to take

Re: Xorg-7.1+ packages

2007-01-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan Nicholson wrote: On 1/22/07, Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Nicholson wrote: One thought is to put them in the patches repo. Another thought is to make a xorg-modular directory in the BLFS repo and change the render script to copy these to some standard location. Another