Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-26 Thread Richard A Downing
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Richard A Downing wrote: I'm sorry I started this again now. I have to say I am more confused than ever. Do the guys (I use the term loosly, as 'imbeciles' seems more appropriate right now) upstream have any idea of the difficulties they are creating by this

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-26 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
DJ Lucas wrote: So, how is the current situation with Metaproblem 7: no useful documentation? http://bugs.debian.org/318206 Severity: important; Tags: help, upstream; 104 days old. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-26 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Matthew Burgess wrote: I'll have to bite the bullet and see to getting all the module hotplugging related bugs sorted out This means just the following steps: 1) Upgrade udev to 071 to resolve the udev_run_hotplugd installation bug 2) Add these two rules to LFS default rules file:

ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Richard A Downing
Guys, The method documented in the svn book doesn't work for me. The script that the 15-alsa.rules file associates with udev's discovery of a control interface is never apparently called (Udev-063). I also don't seem to be able to get the snd_pcm_oss module loaded, which is required for

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Richard A Downing wrote: I also don't seem to be able to get the snd_pcm_oss module loaded, which is required for realplayer. Can it be loaded with modprobe? -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Richard A Downing wrote: Guys, The method documented in the svn book doesn't work for me. The script that the 15-alsa.rules file associates with udev's discovery of a control interface is never apparently called (Udev-063). could you please try replacing this line: KERNEL==controlC[0-9]*,

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
Richard A Downing wrote these words on 10/25/05 10:51 CST: and that doesn't change anything. It still never calls the script. Now I'm out of ideas. You could always go back to the way it was by having it restore the volumes at boot (from /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsa): start)

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Richard A Downing
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Richard A Downing wrote: Guys, The method documented in the svn book doesn't work for me. The script that the 15-alsa.rules file associates with udev's discovery of a control interface is never apparently called (Udev-063). Now I have it working, and all I

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Richard A Downing
Randy McMurchy wrote: Richard A Downing wrote these words on 10/25/05 10:51 CST: and that doesn't change anything. It still never calls the script. Now I'm out of ideas. You could always go back to the way it was by having it restore the volumes at boot (from /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsa):

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Richard A Downing wrote: Now I have it working, and all I did was to to mv the rules file elsewhere and back again. This has me completely baffled :-) Gremlins. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Richard A Downing wrote these words on 10/25/05 10:51 CST: and that doesn't change anything. It still never calls the script. Now I'm out of ideas. You could always go back to the way it was by having it restore the volumes at boot (from /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsa):

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 10/25/05 11:16 CST: I also don't really understand why udev is necessary for sound. Sound cards are not something one normally plugs into the computer while power is applied. That would depend on how one defines sound card. When I plug in my Plantronics USB

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 10/25/05 11:16 CST: I also don't really understand why udev is necessary for sound. Sound cards are not something one normally plugs into the computer while power is applied. That would depend on how one defines sound card. When I

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 10/25/05 11:16 CST: I also don't really understand why udev is necessary for sound. Sound cards are not something one normally plugs into the computer while power is applied. That would depend on how one defines sound card. When I

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Richard A Downing
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Richard A Downing wrote: Now I have it working, and all I did was to to mv the rules file elsewhere and back again. This has me completely baffled :-) Gremlins. -- JH Heck, do you think so? I saw that movie. Maybe I should burn the computer, or pehaps

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Richard A Downing
Richard A Downing wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Richard A Downing wrote: Guys, The method documented in the svn book doesn't work for me. The script that the 15-alsa.rules file associates with udev's discovery of a control interface is never apparently called (Udev-063). Now I

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Matthew Burgess
Dan Nicholson wrote: If anything is written, I'd be glad to peruse it and give an opinion as someone who still has only the loosest grasp of how the hardware is set up. Well, I've written some notes up on this, though they're not entirely accurate.

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Richard A Downing wrote: I'm sorry I started this again now. I have to say I am more confused than ever. Do the guys (I use the term loosly, as 'imbeciles' seems more appropriate right now) upstream have any idea of the difficulties they are creating by this almost undocumented mess? No,

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
I wrote: Richard A Downing wrote: What EXACTLY was wrong with MAKEDEV? So it created a few extra nodes and didn't create /dev/agpgart and /dev/hda9. Missing devices were the only valid complaint AFAIK. Udev's ability to handle hot-plugged devices was considered a not-very-needed feature.

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Forgot to say a trivial thing: IMHO it is easier to explain mknod+chown+chmod than kernel+modprobe+udev. A master of understatement! -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html

Re: ALSA modules and restore volumes

2005-10-25 Thread DJ Lucas
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Richard A Downing wrote: Should we ask the LFS guys to take that out of their rules, so that we can deal with it in BLFS? This kind of relates to my comment that the explanation for some of this is buried in the LFS book (well the alsa modules stuff anyway).