[blfs-dev] Couple of X Window System oddities

2021-03-08 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
1) x7fonts.xml has an as_root rm -rf $packagedir in the loop over packages, although x7apps doesn't have the as_root, and nor does x7libs. 2) Installation of intel-vaapi-driver appears to unpack the intel-vaapi-driver sources into the libva directory. Does it need to be installed from

Re: [blfs-dev] Wierd svn update outcome

2021-03-01 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 16:51, Pierre Labastie via blfs-dev wrote: > > > You could try to run "svn status" and "svn diff" to see what is going > on. > > If you have not done (on purpose) modifications to the working copy, > you can also run "svn revert -R .", which will erase all (unwanted and >

[blfs-dev] Wierd svn update outcome

2021-02-28 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
This one is probably me getting the SVN stuff wrong. In my local BLFS trunk directory, I have just done (again, after the rendering failed) an $ svn update Updating '.': At revision 24315. $ $ svn info Path: . Working Copy Root Path: /srv/distros/LFS/SVN/0-svn.lfs.org/BLFS/trunk/BOOK URL:

Re: [blfs-dev] Security Advisories, v2 - revised prototypes

2021-02-02 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 07:42, Ken Moffat via blfs-dev wrote: > > Apparently I made the decision around a day or so ago to use the > ISO date format instead of CCYY/MM/DD. Getting enough sleep would > be nice ;-) > > More relevantly, I've added dates and severity ratings in the > headers for each

Re: [blfs-dev] Security Advisories, v2 [ long :-( ]:wq

2021-01-30 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 11:37, Ken Moffat via blfs-dev wrote: > > I'm thinking the format will be something like the following (not > necessarily what I originally suggested). > > (title: BLFS Security Advisories from September 2020 onwards) > > (heading: BLFS-10.0 was released on 2020/09/01 > -

Re: [blfs-dev] Security Advisories

2021-01-07 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 at 06:30, Ken Moffat via blfs-dev wrote: > > My preference would be to have separate advisories for > *each* update. If we look at Arch, they have a series of detailed > advisories including summary, resolution, possible workaround, and > impact. Gentoo is somewhat similar

Re: [blfs-dev] 2020-09-03" Pango-1.46.0: Cairo is "Recommended" but seems to be Required

2021-01-03 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 12:03, Ken Moffat via blfs-dev wrote: > > However, asking questions about a 3-month-old version of svn is not > something that many of us will remember ;-) I just hope you are > keeping up to date with the 10.0 errata for security fixes (not for > pango, but in general). >

Re: [blfs-dev] 2020-09-03" Pango-1.46.0: Cairo is "Recommended" but seems to be Required

2021-01-02 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
So an update on all this First I thought I might try and layout, what I was trying to do what I thought, having linked up the dependencies in the BLFS Book, might not require me to build Cairo. I have a self-contained tarball of Firefox, but I when I came to run it, i am told that I need a fixup

Re: [blfs-dev] 2020-09-03" Pango-1.46.0: Cairo is "Recommended" but seems to be Required

2021-01-02 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 03:04, Pierre Labastie via blfs-dev wrote: > > Looking in more depth, normally, according to meson.build, the > dependency on cairo is not required, even for 1.46. So it should be > able to compile if cairo is not available. Also, I've grep'ed for > "run.*time" in the source

Re: [blfs-dev] 2020-09-03" Pango-1.46.0: Cairo is "Recommended" but seems to be Required

2021-01-02 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 02:00, Pierre Labastie via blfs-dev wrote: > > > > > How do I tell Pango that I don't want to build it with cairo ? > > > > I tried, well you would, wouldn't you: > > > > -Dcairo=false > > > > but no joy there. > > > > The NEWS file in the source tarball suggests that, once

[blfs-dev] 2020-09-03" Pango-1.46.0: Cairo is "Recommended" but seems to be Required

2021-01-02 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
Been working against the BLFS Version 2020-09-03, so Pango 1.46.0 but BLFS Version 2021-01-01 with Pango 1.48.0 has the same text. I read, Pango Dependencies Required Fontconfig-2.13.1 (must be built with FreeType-2.10.4 using HarfBuzz-2.7.4), FriBidi-1.0.9, and GLib-2.66.4 Recommended

[blfs-dev] FriBidi-1.0.9 as a Required dependency of GTK+-3.24.22 seems superfluous

2021-01-01 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
Appreciate that the various desktop environment dependency chains are a rat's nest but I just noticed that, in BLFS 10.0, FriBidi-1.0.9 is listed as a Required dependency for GTK+-3.24.22, as is Pango-1.46.0, however, FriBidi-1.0.9 is already listed as a Required dependency for Pango-1.46.0.

[blfs-dev] Both cdrtools and dvd+rw-tools install a btcflash

2020-12-31 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
My Pkguser build alerted me to the fact that dvd+rw-tools was trying to overwrite the one that cdrtools had installed. I guess most BLFS builders would get whichever one they install later. FWIW, the latter is written in C, the former in C++, and Schilly's sources contain a manpage. pkg

[blfs-dev] SCons attempts to overwrite Python easy_install scripts

2020-12-04 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
Another one I noticed when perfroming a PkgUser install Right at the end of the SCons installtion, it reports Installing easy_install script to /usr/bin Installing easy_install-3.8 script to /usr/bin however, the install of python-3.8 had already installed a /usr/bin/easy_install-3.8

[blfs-dev] Location of Cmake's Vim files

2020-12-03 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
Noticed this when doing a PkgUser install because of a conflict between Vim and CMake The install of Vim has deployed, amongst other things pkg cmake:cmake-3.18.1> ls -l /usr/share/vim/vim82/ total 384 drwxr-xr-x 4 vim vim 4096 Nov 24 18:57 autoload -rw-r--r--

Re: [blfs-dev] python2 as default python?

2020-11-04 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 at 07:12, Ken Moffat via blfs-dev wrote: > ... > > Note that it did NOT overwrite pip, but it did overwrite 2to3 (the > versions of that are currntnly similari except for the version of > python, but if we're going to do this I suggest that we save the > installed 2to3 from LFS

Re: [blfs-dev] python2 as default python?

2020-10-26 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 at 00:22, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev wrote: > > That's a good question, but I would also like to see if there is a > survey of the major distros on the subject. I know arch has had > python->python3 for a long time, but I don't know what Debian, Gentoo, > Fedora, SUSe,

Re: [blfs-dev] python2 as default python?

2020-10-21 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 at 00:26, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev wrote: > > Currently we have /usr/bin/python -> python2. Is it time to change that > to python3? Probably a bit too drastic a view, but should we even be propagating the need to have a bare python? I appreciate it can be a convenience when

Re: [blfs-dev] Thunderbird now requires dbus-glib.

2020-07-26 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
On Sun, 26 Jul 2020 at 09:45, Ken Moffat via blfs-dev wrote: > > With t-bird 78 the option --disable-dbus is still accepted, but it > doesn't do anything useful and breaks the build. Surely that is one to bounce off the T-bird developers. Seems hard to believe that you now need DBus to build an

Re: [blfs-dev] Sudo: expanding the explanation of the --with-passprompt Configure argument

2020-05-02 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 at 13:21, Pierre Labastie via blfs-dev wrote: > > What you propose in V2 is what is used in the lfs book. It looks > slightly better when rendered, but is much less readable when editing. Yes, it was inspired by the LFS Book. > Now, from my POV, command explanations in blfs

Re: [blfs-dev] Suggestion for small change to shell startup file commentary

2020-04-28 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 at 11:55, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev wrote: > > Right now I'm leaning against setting up /etc/bash.bashrc by default, > but it doesn't take away a choice. If the file is missing, then having > bash look for it and not finding it does nothing. Yes, but if the file is there but

[blfs-dev] Sudo: expanding the explanation of the --with-passprompt Configure argument

2020-04-28 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
At present, the Book has this argument to configure --with-passprompt="[sudo] password for %p: " but doesn't explain the "%p", merely saying --with-passprompt: This switch sets the password prompt. which might leave the user wondering what the %p stands for. The attached patch

Re: [blfs-dev] Suggestion for small change to shell startup file commentary

2020-04-28 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 12:21, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev wrote: > > Thanks for the input, but I like the way we have it now better. As far > as sourcing /etc/bashrc goes, we do that in ~/.bashrc. If a user does > not want to use it then its their distro. > > On the other hand, I've been thinking

[blfs-dev] Suggestion for small change to shell startup file commentary

2020-04-27 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
A suggestion as regards the commentary within the examples for /etc/profile and /etc/bashrc. Text would be changed to have the filenames standing alone, rather than being run into the text, as well as to note that /etc/bashrc, which, although mentioned using a "System wide" comment, as with

[blfs-dev] xcb-utils packages: /simplifying/automating/ the install

2020-04-17 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
Apologies if this has been raised, considered, and discarded before. As things stand, the order in which the XCB-related packages are installed is as follows: * xcb-proto-1.13 * libxcb-1.13.1 * Xorg Libraries * xcb-util-0.4.0 * xcb-util-image-0.4.0 * xcb-util-keysyms-0.4.0 *

[blfs-dev] Mixed quoting styles in xref tag linkend attributes

2020-04-17 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
Something I noticed recently, was that a small percentage of linkend attributes in xref tags have the target within single quotes, whereas the vast majority use double quotes, vis: 22992$ grep -r "linkend='" * | wc -l 68 22992$ grep -r "linkend=\"" * | wc -l 7855 Of the 68 occurences that the

Re: [blfs-dev] Names of SGML/XML/DocBook files

2020-04-09 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 at 04:15, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev wrote: > > > We rarely change these files, but I agree that the naming is confusing. > > I run into the problem at release time, but have never gotten to fixing > > it. I'll see if I can do that today. > > > > Thanks for bringing it up. > >

Re: [blfs-dev] Names of SGML/XML/DocBook files

2020-04-09 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 at 01:03, Pierre Labastie via blfs-dev wrote: > > > but, in suggesting that, I'm unsure as to what that entails > > for the Book gneration process as a whole, not least the > > > > > > > > tags, > > > > So, even though I can't present a fully formed "change > > request", I

[blfs-dev] Names of SGML/XML/DocBook files

2020-04-09 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
I'd like to make a suggestion, as regards the names of the BLFS XML files for the SGML/XML/DocBook sections. I've just come to add some of the DocBook packages to my LFS/BLFS system, and hence my own copy of the Book sources, and got a bit confused as to what related to what. As things stand

[blfs-dev] Differences in package description texts beween LFS and BLFS

2020-03-23 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
Because I decided to build the three packges from LFS's Chapter 5 that don't get built in Chapter 6, despite the builder having had to download the sources for Chapter 5, I noticed: 5.11. Tcl-8.6.10 The Tcl package contains the Tool Command Language. 5.12. Expect-5.45.4 The Expect package

[blfs-dev] The "recent" Alan Coopersmith quote about the Xorg install location

2020-01-31 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
I was just reading the Introduction to Xorg-7 Setting up the Xorg Build Environment section in BLFS 9.0 and, because I was thinking of putting all of Xorg stuff in its own hierarchy, noticed the passage that says: The common installation prefix for Xorg on Linux is /usr. There is no

[blfs-dev] ISC DHCP's “missing_ipv6” patch has been missing since BLFS 8.0 ?

2019-07-28 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
In the BLFS 8.0 book, we read, in the DHCP section: 8<8<8<8<8<8<8< ... Additional Downloads * Required patch: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/patches/blfs/8.0/dhcp-4.3.5-client_script-1.patch * Optional patch:

[blfs-dev] Berkeley DB version

2018-09-24 Thread Kevin Buckley via blfs-dev
Hi there, I normally add in the Berkeley DB package as part of my LFS build, just so I can enable the extra server in Inetutils. I note though that the BLFS version is 5.3.28, whilst the last of that series, ie before Oracle changed the version-numbering system, is 6.2.32. I just wanted to