Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r10724 - in trunk/BOOK: . general/genlib introduction/welcome x/installing

2012-10-11 Thread Armin K.
On 10/11/2012 03:23 AM, Nathan Coulson wrote:

 Just wondering, but do we want to use enable-texture-float by default?
   The developers were worried about potential patent issues.

 Perhaps as an optional flag, pointing at
 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/tree/docs/patents.txt?h=8.0 for
 those who choose to enable it.

 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=OTMzMg


Most distros have that feature enabled by default. I've pointed out 
patent issue ever since I put the instruction there, but it seems no one 
reads Command Explanations

Command Explanations

--enable-texture-float: This switch enables floating-point textures and 
render buffers. Please consult docs/patents.txt to see if there are any 
legal issues if you use this feature.

Patents do not pose a problem outside of US and Germany today, even 
tough many countries claim to have that law. These are ones that care 
the most.

http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-xorg/lib/mesa.git;a=blob;f=debian/rules;h=551cb7586d4f3b76a307ce279614a1b918b90e59;hb=HEAD

http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-xorg/lib/mesa.git;a=blob;f=debian/rules;h=e059404327daa3f94b38ebb492d012ee72b3a873;hb=refs/heads/ubuntu

https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/mesa

Debian, Ubuntu and Archlinux seem to enable that flag by default and 
shipt it, while Gentoo does not even provide a way to enable it by 
default in portage.

I don't think that this might be patent infrigment from the user side, 
but from the developer side - implementing patented stuff into software 
that has not been granted permissions to do so.

Another story was S3TC stuff. I tought about adding an external library 
that implements S3 Texture Compression (libtxc_dxtn library) into Mesa 
instructions, but I didn't do that.
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Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r10724 - in trunk/BOOK: . general/genlib introduction/welcome x/installing

2012-10-11 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Armin K. kre...@email.com wrote:
 On 10/11/2012 03:23 AM, Nathan Coulson wrote:

 Just wondering, but do we want to use enable-texture-float by default?
   The developers were worried about potential patent issues.

 Perhaps as an optional flag, pointing at
 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/tree/docs/patents.txt?h=8.0 for
 those who choose to enable it.

 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=OTMzMg


 Most distros have that feature enabled by default. I've pointed out
 patent issue ever since I put the instruction there, but it seems no one
 reads Command Explanations

 Command Explanations

 --enable-texture-float: This switch enables floating-point textures and
 render buffers. Please consult docs/patents.txt to see if there are any
 legal issues if you use this feature.

 Patents do not pose a problem outside of US and Germany today, even
 tough many countries claim to have that law. These are ones that care
 the most.

 http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-xorg/lib/mesa.git;a=blob;f=debian/rules;h=551cb7586d4f3b76a307ce279614a1b918b90e59;hb=HEAD

 http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-xorg/lib/mesa.git;a=blob;f=debian/rules;h=e059404327daa3f94b38ebb492d012ee72b3a873;hb=refs/heads/ubuntu

 https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/mesa

 Debian, Ubuntu and Archlinux seem to enable that flag by default and
 shipt it, while Gentoo does not even provide a way to enable it by
 default in portage.

 I don't think that this might be patent infrigment from the user side,
 but from the developer side - implementing patented stuff into software
 that has not been granted permissions to do so.

 Another story was S3TC stuff. I tought about adding an external library
 that implements S3 Texture Compression (libtxc_dxtn library) into Mesa
 instructions, but I didn't do that.

Apologies, I missed the note explaining the commands (not sure how I
missed it, I was looking for it before I posted).  Works for me.

(Used to seeing possibly patented stuff off by default in BLFS.  such
as libungif [expired], and openssl [looks like it's no longer disabled
by default])

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Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r10724 - in trunk/BOOK: . general/genlib introduction/welcome x/installing

2012-10-10 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Armin K. kre...@email.com wrote:
 On 10/09/2012 09:44 AM, kre...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote:
 Author: krejzi
 Date: 2012-10-09 01:44:44 -0600 (Tue, 09 Oct 2012)
 New Revision: 10724

 Modified:
 trunk/BOOK/general.ent
 trunk/BOOK/general/genlib/libdrm.xml
 trunk/BOOK/introduction/welcome/changelog.xml
 trunk/BOOK/x/installing/mesalib.xml
 Log:
 libdrm 2.4.39 and MesaLib 9.0.


 Prefix changed to /usr as I pointed out earlier. It is not seperate from
 /usr as long as headers are a symlink to /usr/include and without those
 symlinks some packages build may fail.

 Also, not really part of Xorg, but used by Xorg. Can also be used by
 Wayland which does not use Xorg.

 Also, I haven't yet got time to check how to disable llvm with current
 instructions, but I'll work on it later. Please test.
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Just wondering, but do we want to use enable-texture-float by default?
 The developers were worried about potential patent issues.

Perhaps as an optional flag, pointing at
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/tree/docs/patents.txt?h=8.0 for
those who choose to enable it.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=OTMzMg



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