Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?

2020-01-15 Thread Don Cross via blfs-support
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 10:28 AM Bruce Dubbs via blfs-support <
blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org> wrote:

> On 1/15/20 8:06 AM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote:
>
> > My other computer has Windows 10. Is it possible to install ssh on it?
>
> I believe that the Windows ssh client is 'putty'.
>

As of 2018, Windows 10 now includes an ssh client by default. From the
command prompt (cmd.exe), just type "ssh user@domain" and it will just
work!  You can configure private keys (id_rsa) and public keys (id_rsa.pub)
as usual in the directory
%UserProfile%\.ssh
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Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?

2020-01-15 Thread Trent via blfs-support


On 1/15/20 9:26 AM, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-support wrote:

On 1/15/20 8:06 AM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote:

I just have SSH running, and log in from another machine so you have 
multiple screens on the same window, and much easier to cut & paste 
commands.



My other computer has Windows 10. Is it possible to install ssh on it?


I believe that the Windows ssh client is 'putty'.



Yes that is correct.  Official link

https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/


There is a Linux version, but oddly is not the same as it is short of 
features the Windows client has.


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Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?

2020-01-15 Thread Christopher Gregory via blfs-support


> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 at 3:19 AM
> From: "Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support" 
> 
> To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
> Cc: "Alan Feuerbacher" 
> Subject: Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
>
> On 1/14/2020 9:07 PM, Christopher Gregory via blfs-support wrote:
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:46 PM
> > From: "Christopher Gregory via blfs-support" 
> > 
> > To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
> > Cc: "Christopher Gregory" 
> > Subject: Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
> >
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:18 PM
> > From: "Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support" 
> > 
> > To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
> > Cc: "Alan Feuerbacher" 
> > Subject: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
> >
> > Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've
> > installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running,
> > I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software
> > via Lynx.
> >
> > Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints from
> > when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a couple of
> > years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on that drive.
> > Here's what I remember:
> >
> > In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or
> > more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in
> > each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one
> > window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch windows?
> >
> > I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is
> > output to the console. Where can I find them?
> >
> > A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on
> > transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff!
> >
> > Any other helpful hints?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> > The process of automating the install process is a little tricky.  You need 
> > to be very familiar with the Linux operating system, and most importantly 
> > Bash, as you need a knowledge of scripting to be able to overcome the 
> > circular dependencies of some of the packages in BLFS.
> How would that work? I've fought with the circular dependencies a lot.
> > You could use Jhalf, you can install it on an already installed LFS system. 
> >  Using this approach, you will be able to select what you wish to be 
> > installed, from an adapted busy box menu.
>
> I've briefly read about jhalfs, but I thought it only installed LFS
> stuff, not BLFS.
>
> Would this be run from a pre-X window? I don't yet have X installed.
>
> > Once you have run the menu selection process, it will create a "cut down" 
> > version of the book in a linear format.
> You mean that jhalfs runs in its own interactive window?
> >The easiest approach then, if you are not familiar with bash, would be 
> > to use that version of the book, and switch between the different tty's as 
> > I explained.
> I'm fairly familiar with bash as a casual user, but am far from an
> expert. Of course, one purpose of LFS is to teach stuff like this to
> newbies like me.
> > You will need to make sure that you have GPM installed so that you can use 
> > your mouse to copy and paste between the different windows.
>
> Up and running.
>
>
> > If you are using the systemd version, then you use:
>
> > journalctl -r to get a list of the log files in reverse order.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Alan
>
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Hello,

You can install the BLFS tools, which is part of JHALF on an already installed 
lfs system.  I recommend doing that, and only running it to the point of 
getting the "cut down" linear version of the BLFS book, rather than allowing it 
to attempt a full install of what you wish to have installed.

That way you do not have to dive into the many bash scripts that get created.  
I have never used JHALF for doing a full BLFS install, as I hate programming 
and it gives me a headache even going through the scripts.

JHALF does not run in a separate window per say.  It uses a "Make" file and it 
brings up a menu selection, much like you get when you install the linux kernel.

The beauty of it is, if you do use jhalf to create the linear versio

Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?

2020-01-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs via blfs-support

On 1/15/20 8:06 AM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote:

I just have SSH running, and log in from another machine so you have 
multiple screens on the same window, and much easier to cut & paste 
commands.



My other computer has Windows 10. Is it possible to install ssh on it?


I believe that the Windows ssh client is 'putty'.
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Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?

2020-01-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs via blfs-support

On 1/15/20 8:19 AM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote:

On 1/14/2020 9:07 PM, Christopher Gregory via blfs-support wrote:

Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:46 PM
From: "Christopher Gregory via blfs-support" 


To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
Cc: "Christopher Gregory" 
Subject: Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?


Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:18 PM
From: "Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support" 


To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
Cc: "Alan Feuerbacher" 
Subject: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?

Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've
installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running,
I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software
via Lynx.

Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints from
when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a couple of
years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on that drive.
Here's what I remember:

In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or
more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in
each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one
window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch 
windows?


I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is
output to the console. Where can I find them?

A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on
transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff!

Any other helpful hints?

Thanks in advance!

Alan


Hello,
The process of automating the install process is a little tricky.  You 
need to be very familiar with the Linux operating system, and most 
importantly Bash, as you need a knowledge of scripting to be able to 
overcome the circular dependencies of some of the packages in BLFS.

How would that work? I've fought with the circular dependencies a lot.
You could use Jhalf, you can install it on an already installed LFS 
system.  Using this approach, you will be able to select what you wish 
to be installed, from an adapted busy box menu.


I've briefly read about jhalfs, but I thought it only installed LFS 
stuff, not BLFS.


Would this be run from a pre-X window? I don't yet have X installed.


For the first time through, I recommend building BLFS manually.

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Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?

2020-01-15 Thread Scott Andrews via blfs-support


On 1/15/20 9:08 AM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote:

On 1/15/2020 5:18 AM, Scott Andrews via blfs-support wrote:


On 1/14/20 10:18 PM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote:
Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've 
installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X 
running, I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of 
installing software via Lynx.


Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints 
from when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a 
couple of years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were 
on that drive. Here's what I remember:


In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two 
or more independent windows, so that you can have a program running 
in each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in 
one window, and installing the software in another. How do you 
switch windows?


I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what 
is output to the console. Where can I find them?


A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on 
transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff!


Any other helpful hints?

Thanks in advance!

Alan



Use a package manager. Build packages in a clean chroot.  I use the 
kernel overlayfs to do that even when building the base system.  It 
protects the host from damage, when you are building and installing 
LFS and BLFS.  It also provides a mechanism to catch errors that you 
don't know are happening.




Sorry, but I don't know what any of that means. Can you expand on it?

Alan


Have a look at : https://github.com/baho-utot/Overlay for how to setup

and

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Overlay_filesystem

https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/overlayfs.txt

https://www.datalight.com/blog/2016/01/27/explaining-overlayfs-%E2%80%93-what-it-does-and-how-it-works

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OverlayFS


What the kernel overlayfs does is to create a unionfs type of 
filesystem. It needs three directories to work ie lower, upper, work and 
a direct as a mount point.  I place a clone of the host system in the 
lower directory, the upper and work directories are empty then mount the 
overlay using the mount point directory. Chroot to the mount point and 
then setup and build LFS.  Then lower directory containing the "host 
system" is read only, all the changes go to the upper directory.  Than 
completly protects your host from any errors you might make.  after you 
exit the chroot the you can look at the upper directory to see what has 
been added or modified.


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Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?

2020-01-15 Thread Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support

On 1/14/2020 9:07 PM, Christopher Gregory via blfs-support wrote:

Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:46 PM
From: "Christopher Gregory via blfs-support" 

To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
Cc: "Christopher Gregory" 
Subject: Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?


Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:18 PM
From: "Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support" 

To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
Cc: "Alan Feuerbacher" 
Subject: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?

Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've
installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running,
I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software
via Lynx.

Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints from
when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a couple of
years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on that drive.
Here's what I remember:

In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or
more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in
each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one
window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch windows?

I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is
output to the console. Where can I find them?

A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on
transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff!

Any other helpful hints?

Thanks in advance!

Alan


Hello,
The process of automating the install process is a little tricky.  You need to 
be very familiar with the Linux operating system, and most importantly Bash, as 
you need a knowledge of scripting to be able to overcome the circular 
dependencies of some of the packages in BLFS.

How would that work? I've fought with the circular dependencies a lot.

You could use Jhalf, you can install it on an already installed LFS system.  
Using this approach, you will be able to select what you wish to be installed, 
from an adapted busy box menu.


I've briefly read about jhalfs, but I thought it only installed LFS 
stuff, not BLFS.


Would this be run from a pre-X window? I don't yet have X installed.


Once you have run the menu selection process, it will create a "cut down" 
version of the book in a linear format.

You mean that jhalfs runs in its own interactive window?

   The easiest approach then, if you are not familiar with bash, would be to 
use that version of the book, and switch between the different tty's as I 
explained.
I'm fairly familiar with bash as a casual user, but am far from an 
expert. Of course, one purpose of LFS is to teach stuff like this to 
newbies like me.

You will need to make sure that you have GPM installed so that you can use your 
mouse to copy and paste between the different windows.


Up and running.



If you are using the systemd version, then you use:



journalctl -r to get a list of the log files in reverse order.


Thanks!

Alan

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Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?

2020-01-15 Thread Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support

On 1/14/2020 8:46 PM, Christopher Gregory via blfs-support wrote:



Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:18 PM
From: "Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support" 

To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
Cc: "Alan Feuerbacher" 
Subject: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?

Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've
installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running,
I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software
via Lynx.

Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints from
when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a couple of
years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on that drive.
Here's what I remember:

In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or
more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in
each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one
window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch windows?

I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is
output to the console. Where can I find them?

A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on
transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff!

Any other helpful hints?

Thanks in advance!

Alan

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Hello,

To switch to a different tty without X installed, use the alt+F1 (or F2 etc) 
keys to switch to a different tty.

You will need to use the ctrl+alt+fnx keys when you have X installed.

Regards,

Christopher.



Thank you!

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Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?

2020-01-15 Thread Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support

On 1/15/2020 5:18 AM, Scott Andrews via blfs-support wrote:


On 1/14/20 10:18 PM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote:
Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've 
installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X 
running, I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of 
installing software via Lynx.


Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints 
from when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a 
couple of years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were 
on that drive. Here's what I remember:


In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two 
or more independent windows, so that you can have a program running 
in each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in 
one window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch 
windows?


I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what 
is output to the console. Where can I find them?


A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on 
transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff!


Any other helpful hints?

Thanks in advance!

Alan



Use a package manager. Build packages in a clean chroot.  I use the 
kernel overlayfs to do that even when building the base system.  It 
protects the host from damage, when you are building and installing 
LFS and BLFS.  It also provides a mechanism to catch errors that you 
don't know are happening.




Sorry, but I don't know what any of that means. Can you expand on it?

Alan


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Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?

2020-01-15 Thread Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support

On 1/14/2020 9:05 PM, Trent via blfs-support wrote:


On 1/14/20 9:18 PM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote:
Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've 
installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X 
running, I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of 
installing software via Lynx.


Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints 
from when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a 
couple of years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were 
on that drive. Here's what I remember:


In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two 
or more independent windows, so that you can have a program running 
in each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in 
one window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch 
windows?


I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what 
is output to the console. Where can I find them?


A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on 
transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff!


Any other helpful hints?

Thanks in advance!

Alan



I just have SSH running, and log in from another machine so you have 
multiple screens on the same window, and much easier to cut & paste 
commands.



My other computer has Windows 10. Is it possible to install ssh on it?

Alan

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Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?

2020-01-15 Thread Scott Andrews via blfs-support


On 1/14/20 10:18 PM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote:
Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've 
installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running, 
I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software 
via Lynx.


Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints 
from when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a 
couple of years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on 
that drive. Here's what I remember:


In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or 
more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in 
each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one 
window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch 
windows?


I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is 
output to the console. Where can I find them?


A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on 
transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff!


Any other helpful hints?

Thanks in advance!

Alan



Use a package manager. Build packages in a clean chroot.  I use the 
kernel overlayfs to do that even when building the base system.  It 
protects the host from damage, when you are building and installing LFS 
and BLFS.  It also provides a mechanism to catch errors that you don't 
know are happening.



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Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?

2020-01-14 Thread Christopher Gregory via blfs-support


> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:46 PM
> From: "Christopher Gregory via blfs-support" 
> 
> To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
> Cc: "Christopher Gregory" 
> Subject: Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
>
>
>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:18 PM
> > From: "Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support" 
> > 
> > To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
> > Cc: "Alan Feuerbacher" 
> > Subject: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
> >
> > Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've
> > installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running,
> > I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software
> > via Lynx.
> >
> > Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints from
> > when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a couple of
> > years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on that drive.
> > Here's what I remember:
> >
> > In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or
> > more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in
> > each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one
> > window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch windows?
> >
> > I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is
> > output to the console. Where can I find them?
> >
> > A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on
> > transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff!
> >
> > Any other helpful hints?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Alan
> >
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> Hello,
>
> To switch to a different tty without X installed, use the alt+F1 (or F2 etc) 
> keys to switch to a different tty.
>
> You will need to use the ctrl+alt+fnx keys when you have X installed.
>
> Regards,
>
> Christopher.
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Hello,

The process of automating the install process is a little tricky.  You need to 
be very familiar with the Linux operating system, and most importantly Bash, as 
you need a knowledge of scripting to be able to overcome the circular 
dependencies of some of the packages in BLFS.

You could use Jhalf, you can install it on an already installed LFS system.  
Using this approach, you will be able to select what you wish to be installed, 
from an adapted busy box menu.  Once you have run the menu selection process, 
it will create a "cut down" version of the book in a linear format.  The 
easiest approach then, if you are not familiar with bash, would be to use that 
version of the book, and switch between the different tty's as I explained.

You will need to make sure that you have GPM installed so that you can use your 
mouse to copy and paste between the different windows.

http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/systemd/general/gpm.html (for the systemd 
version of the book).

or:

http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/general/gpm.html (for the sysv 
version of the book).

If you are using the sysv version of the book, the log files are found in 
/ver/log

If you are using the systemd version, then you use:

journalctl -r to get a list of the log files in reverse order.

Regards,

Christopher.
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Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?

2020-01-14 Thread Trent via blfs-support


On 1/14/20 9:18 PM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote:
Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've 
installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running, 
I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software 
via Lynx.


Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints 
from when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a 
couple of years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on 
that drive. Here's what I remember:


In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or 
more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in 
each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one 
window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch 
windows?


I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is 
output to the console. Where can I find them?


A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on 
transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff!


Any other helpful hints?

Thanks in advance!

Alan



I just have SSH running, and log in from another machine so you have 
multiple screens on the same window, and much easier to cut & paste 
commands.


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Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?

2020-01-14 Thread Christopher Gregory via blfs-support


> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:18 PM
> From: "Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support" 
> 
> To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org
> Cc: "Alan Feuerbacher" 
> Subject: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
>
> Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've
> installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running,
> I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software
> via Lynx.
>
> Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints from
> when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a couple of
> years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on that drive.
> Here's what I remember:
>
> In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or
> more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in
> each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one
> window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch windows?
>
> I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is
> output to the console. Where can I find them?
>
> A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on
> transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff!
>
> Any other helpful hints?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Alan
>
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Hello,

To switch to a different tty without X installed, use the alt+F1 (or F2 etc) 
keys to switch to a different tty.

You will need to use the ctrl+alt+fnx keys when you have X installed.

Regards,

Christopher.
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