Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 10:28 AM Bruce Dubbs via blfs-support < blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org> wrote: > On 1/15/20 8:06 AM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote: > > > My other computer has Windows 10. Is it possible to install ssh on it? > > I believe that the Windows ssh client is 'putty'. > As of 2018, Windows 10 now includes an ssh client by default. From the command prompt (cmd.exe), just type "ssh user@domain" and it will just work! You can configure private keys (id_rsa) and public keys (id_rsa.pub) as usual in the directory %UserProfile%\.ssh -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
On 1/15/20 9:26 AM, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-support wrote: On 1/15/20 8:06 AM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote: I just have SSH running, and log in from another machine so you have multiple screens on the same window, and much easier to cut & paste commands. My other computer has Windows 10. Is it possible to install ssh on it? I believe that the Windows ssh client is 'putty'. Yes that is correct. Official link https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ There is a Linux version, but oddly is not the same as it is short of features the Windows client has. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 at 3:19 AM > From: "Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support" > > To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org > Cc: "Alan Feuerbacher" > Subject: Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ? > > On 1/14/2020 9:07 PM, Christopher Gregory via blfs-support wrote: > > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:46 PM > > From: "Christopher Gregory via blfs-support" > > > > To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org > > Cc: "Christopher Gregory" > > Subject: Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ? > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:18 PM > > From: "Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support" > > > > To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org > > Cc: "Alan Feuerbacher" > > Subject: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ? > > > > Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've > > installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running, > > I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software > > via Lynx. > > > > Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints from > > when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a couple of > > years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on that drive. > > Here's what I remember: > > > > In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or > > more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in > > each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one > > window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch windows? > > > > I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is > > output to the console. Where can I find them? > > > > A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on > > transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff! > > > > Any other helpful hints? > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Alan > > > > > > Hello, > > The process of automating the install process is a little tricky. You need > > to be very familiar with the Linux operating system, and most importantly > > Bash, as you need a knowledge of scripting to be able to overcome the > > circular dependencies of some of the packages in BLFS. > How would that work? I've fought with the circular dependencies a lot. > > You could use Jhalf, you can install it on an already installed LFS system. > > Using this approach, you will be able to select what you wish to be > > installed, from an adapted busy box menu. > > I've briefly read about jhalfs, but I thought it only installed LFS > stuff, not BLFS. > > Would this be run from a pre-X window? I don't yet have X installed. > > > Once you have run the menu selection process, it will create a "cut down" > > version of the book in a linear format. > You mean that jhalfs runs in its own interactive window? > >The easiest approach then, if you are not familiar with bash, would be > > to use that version of the book, and switch between the different tty's as > > I explained. > I'm fairly familiar with bash as a casual user, but am far from an > expert. Of course, one purpose of LFS is to teach stuff like this to > newbies like me. > > You will need to make sure that you have GPM installed so that you can use > > your mouse to copy and paste between the different windows. > > Up and running. > > > > If you are using the systemd version, then you use: > > > journalctl -r to get a list of the log files in reverse order. > > Thanks! > > Alan > > -- > http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html > Unsubscribe: See the above information page > Hello, You can install the BLFS tools, which is part of JHALF on an already installed lfs system. I recommend doing that, and only running it to the point of getting the "cut down" linear version of the BLFS book, rather than allowing it to attempt a full install of what you wish to have installed. That way you do not have to dive into the many bash scripts that get created. I have never used JHALF for doing a full BLFS install, as I hate programming and it gives me a headache even going through the scripts. JHALF does not run in a separate window per say. It uses a "Make" file and it brings up a menu selection, much like you get when you install the linux kernel. The beauty of it is, if you do use jhalf to create the linear versio
Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
On 1/15/20 8:06 AM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote: I just have SSH running, and log in from another machine so you have multiple screens on the same window, and much easier to cut & paste commands. My other computer has Windows 10. Is it possible to install ssh on it? I believe that the Windows ssh client is 'putty'. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
On 1/15/20 8:19 AM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote: On 1/14/2020 9:07 PM, Christopher Gregory via blfs-support wrote: Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:46 PM From: "Christopher Gregory via blfs-support" To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org Cc: "Christopher Gregory" Subject: Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ? Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:18 PM From: "Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support" To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org Cc: "Alan Feuerbacher" Subject: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ? Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running, I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software via Lynx. Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints from when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a couple of years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on that drive. Here's what I remember: In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch windows? I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is output to the console. Where can I find them? A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff! Any other helpful hints? Thanks in advance! Alan Hello, The process of automating the install process is a little tricky. You need to be very familiar with the Linux operating system, and most importantly Bash, as you need a knowledge of scripting to be able to overcome the circular dependencies of some of the packages in BLFS. How would that work? I've fought with the circular dependencies a lot. You could use Jhalf, you can install it on an already installed LFS system. Using this approach, you will be able to select what you wish to be installed, from an adapted busy box menu. I've briefly read about jhalfs, but I thought it only installed LFS stuff, not BLFS. Would this be run from a pre-X window? I don't yet have X installed. For the first time through, I recommend building BLFS manually. -- Bruce -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
On 1/15/20 9:08 AM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote: On 1/15/2020 5:18 AM, Scott Andrews via blfs-support wrote: On 1/14/20 10:18 PM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote: Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running, I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software via Lynx. Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints from when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a couple of years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on that drive. Here's what I remember: In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch windows? I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is output to the console. Where can I find them? A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff! Any other helpful hints? Thanks in advance! Alan Use a package manager. Build packages in a clean chroot. I use the kernel overlayfs to do that even when building the base system. It protects the host from damage, when you are building and installing LFS and BLFS. It also provides a mechanism to catch errors that you don't know are happening. Sorry, but I don't know what any of that means. Can you expand on it? Alan Have a look at : https://github.com/baho-utot/Overlay for how to setup and https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Overlay_filesystem https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/overlayfs.txt https://www.datalight.com/blog/2016/01/27/explaining-overlayfs-%E2%80%93-what-it-does-and-how-it-works https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OverlayFS What the kernel overlayfs does is to create a unionfs type of filesystem. It needs three directories to work ie lower, upper, work and a direct as a mount point. I place a clone of the host system in the lower directory, the upper and work directories are empty then mount the overlay using the mount point directory. Chroot to the mount point and then setup and build LFS. Then lower directory containing the "host system" is read only, all the changes go to the upper directory. Than completly protects your host from any errors you might make. after you exit the chroot the you can look at the upper directory to see what has been added or modified. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
On 1/14/2020 9:07 PM, Christopher Gregory via blfs-support wrote: Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:46 PM From: "Christopher Gregory via blfs-support" To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org Cc: "Christopher Gregory" Subject: Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ? Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:18 PM From: "Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support" To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org Cc: "Alan Feuerbacher" Subject: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ? Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running, I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software via Lynx. Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints from when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a couple of years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on that drive. Here's what I remember: In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch windows? I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is output to the console. Where can I find them? A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff! Any other helpful hints? Thanks in advance! Alan Hello, The process of automating the install process is a little tricky. You need to be very familiar with the Linux operating system, and most importantly Bash, as you need a knowledge of scripting to be able to overcome the circular dependencies of some of the packages in BLFS. How would that work? I've fought with the circular dependencies a lot. You could use Jhalf, you can install it on an already installed LFS system. Using this approach, you will be able to select what you wish to be installed, from an adapted busy box menu. I've briefly read about jhalfs, but I thought it only installed LFS stuff, not BLFS. Would this be run from a pre-X window? I don't yet have X installed. Once you have run the menu selection process, it will create a "cut down" version of the book in a linear format. You mean that jhalfs runs in its own interactive window? The easiest approach then, if you are not familiar with bash, would be to use that version of the book, and switch between the different tty's as I explained. I'm fairly familiar with bash as a casual user, but am far from an expert. Of course, one purpose of LFS is to teach stuff like this to newbies like me. You will need to make sure that you have GPM installed so that you can use your mouse to copy and paste between the different windows. Up and running. If you are using the systemd version, then you use: journalctl -r to get a list of the log files in reverse order. Thanks! Alan -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
On 1/14/2020 8:46 PM, Christopher Gregory via blfs-support wrote: Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:18 PM From: "Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support" To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org Cc: "Alan Feuerbacher" Subject: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ? Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running, I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software via Lynx. Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints from when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a couple of years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on that drive. Here's what I remember: In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch windows? I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is output to the console. Where can I find them? A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff! Any other helpful hints? Thanks in advance! Alan -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page Hello, To switch to a different tty without X installed, use the alt+F1 (or F2 etc) keys to switch to a different tty. You will need to use the ctrl+alt+fnx keys when you have X installed. Regards, Christopher. Thank you! Alan -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
On 1/15/2020 5:18 AM, Scott Andrews via blfs-support wrote: On 1/14/20 10:18 PM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote: Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running, I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software via Lynx. Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints from when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a couple of years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on that drive. Here's what I remember: In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch windows? I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is output to the console. Where can I find them? A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff! Any other helpful hints? Thanks in advance! Alan Use a package manager. Build packages in a clean chroot. I use the kernel overlayfs to do that even when building the base system. It protects the host from damage, when you are building and installing LFS and BLFS. It also provides a mechanism to catch errors that you don't know are happening. Sorry, but I don't know what any of that means. Can you expand on it? Alan -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
On 1/14/2020 9:05 PM, Trent via blfs-support wrote: On 1/14/20 9:18 PM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote: Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running, I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software via Lynx. Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints from when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a couple of years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on that drive. Here's what I remember: In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch windows? I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is output to the console. Where can I find them? A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff! Any other helpful hints? Thanks in advance! Alan I just have SSH running, and log in from another machine so you have multiple screens on the same window, and much easier to cut & paste commands. My other computer has Windows 10. Is it possible to install ssh on it? Alan -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
On 1/14/20 10:18 PM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote: Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running, I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software via Lynx. Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints from when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a couple of years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on that drive. Here's what I remember: In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch windows? I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is output to the console. Where can I find them? A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff! Any other helpful hints? Thanks in advance! Alan Use a package manager. Build packages in a clean chroot. I use the kernel overlayfs to do that even when building the base system. It protects the host from damage, when you are building and installing LFS and BLFS. It also provides a mechanism to catch errors that you don't know are happening. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:46 PM > From: "Christopher Gregory via blfs-support" > > To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org > Cc: "Christopher Gregory" > Subject: Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ? > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:18 PM > > From: "Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support" > > > > To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org > > Cc: "Alan Feuerbacher" > > Subject: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ? > > > > Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've > > installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running, > > I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software > > via Lynx. > > > > Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints from > > when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a couple of > > years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on that drive. > > Here's what I remember: > > > > In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or > > more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in > > each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one > > window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch windows? > > > > I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is > > output to the console. Where can I find them? > > > > A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on > > transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff! > > > > Any other helpful hints? > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Alan > > > > -- > > http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support > > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html > > Unsubscribe: See the above information page > > > > Hello, > > To switch to a different tty without X installed, use the alt+F1 (or F2 etc) > keys to switch to a different tty. > > You will need to use the ctrl+alt+fnx keys when you have X installed. > > Regards, > > Christopher. > -- > http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html > Unsubscribe: See the above information page > Hello, The process of automating the install process is a little tricky. You need to be very familiar with the Linux operating system, and most importantly Bash, as you need a knowledge of scripting to be able to overcome the circular dependencies of some of the packages in BLFS. You could use Jhalf, you can install it on an already installed LFS system. Using this approach, you will be able to select what you wish to be installed, from an adapted busy box menu. Once you have run the menu selection process, it will create a "cut down" version of the book in a linear format. The easiest approach then, if you are not familiar with bash, would be to use that version of the book, and switch between the different tty's as I explained. You will need to make sure that you have GPM installed so that you can use your mouse to copy and paste between the different windows. http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/systemd/general/gpm.html (for the systemd version of the book). or: http://linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/general/gpm.html (for the sysv version of the book). If you are using the sysv version of the book, the log files are found in /ver/log If you are using the systemd version, then you use: journalctl -r to get a list of the log files in reverse order. Regards, Christopher. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
On 1/14/20 9:18 PM, Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support wrote: Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running, I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software via Lynx. Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints from when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a couple of years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on that drive. Here's what I remember: In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch windows? I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is output to the console. Where can I find them? A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff! Any other helpful hints? Thanks in advance! Alan I just have SSH running, and log in from another machine so you have multiple screens on the same window, and much easier to cut & paste commands. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:18 PM > From: "Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support" > > To: blfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org > Cc: "Alan Feuerbacher" > Subject: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ? > > Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've > installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running, > I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software > via Lynx. > > Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints from > when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a couple of > years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on that drive. > Here's what I remember: > > In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or > more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in > each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one > window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch windows? > > I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is > output to the console. Where can I find them? > > A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on > transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff! > > Any other helpful hints? > > Thanks in advance! > > Alan > > -- > http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html > Unsubscribe: See the above information page > Hello, To switch to a different tty without X installed, use the alt+F1 (or F2 etc) keys to switch to a different tty. You will need to use the ctrl+alt+fnx keys when you have X installed. Regards, Christopher. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page