Re: [Bloat] goresponsiveness learned a few tricks...

2024-01-09 Thread Michael Richardson via Bloat
David Schinazi via Bloat wrote: > My understanding is that Apple chose to report RTT as an inverse because > people are used to "higher number means better". The target audience > for Yes. Stuart was pretty clear about this being the reason for the decision. It seemed sound then

Re: [Bloat] goresponsiveness learned a few tricks...

2024-01-08 Thread Sebastian Moeller via Bloat
Hi David, > On Jan 9, 2024, at 00:15, David Schinazi wrote: > > My understanding is that Apple chose to report RTT as an inverse because > people are used to "higher number means better". The target audience for > network speed tests is the average slightly-tech-savvy consumer, and those >

Re: [Bloat] goresponsiveness learned a few tricks...

2024-01-08 Thread David Schinazi via Bloat
My understanding is that Apple chose to report RTT as an inverse because people are used to "higher number means better". The target audience for network speed tests is the average slightly-tech-savvy consumer, and those aren't all familiar with what latency means. Also, car enthusiasts like RPMs

Re: [Bloat] goresponsiveness learned a few tricks...

2024-01-08 Thread Sebastian Moeller via Bloat
Hi Julien, On 8 January 2024 22:04:23 CET, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: >> (h++ps://github.com/network-quality/draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness). > >There's quite a few good ideas in this draft, but the one that I find >intriguing is reporting RTT values in RPM (units of 1/60 Hz) rather than

Re: [Bloat] goresponsiveness learned a few tricks...

2024-01-08 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek via Bloat
> (h++ps://github.com/network-quality/draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness). There's quite a few good ideas in this draft, but the one that I find intriguing is reporting RTT values in RPM (units of 1/60 Hz) rather than milliseconds. I wonder how well this works. I'll experiment with undergrads. --