Re: [board-discuss] LibreOffice no longer in Apple store ?
Hi Alex, some people see LibreOffice in the Apple Store, and some don't see it (I don't see it, and I see different things from you). We are investigating with Apple. The new version 7.4.4 was approved, and has been uploaded without issues as the previous one, so the behaviour is indeed strange. On 1/13/23 09:34, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Hello all, A general question to the Board : has a decision been taken to remove LibreOffice from the Apple store (whether voluntarily or forced removal by Apple) ? I ask because whilst searching today (13/01/2023) via the search bar of the store, there is only 1 LibreOffice specific result, and that is LibreOffice Viewer, being sold for 3,49 EUR, and figuring somewhere in the bottom quarter of all the results displayed. Otherwise, sorting by relevance, the first occurrence of anything derived from OOo technology is NeoOffice (4th place), and Collabora Office (35th place). The first 3 results, in order, are MS Word, MS Excel, MS Powerpoint. Tried searching also with : "Libre Office" "libre office" "libreoffice" to no better effect (in fact, even worse, as NeoOffice gets shunted even further down). Anyone on the board with knowledge of what is going on ? Alex -- Italo Vignoli -it...@vignoli.org mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0
[board-discuss] Marketing/Community Budgets for 2023
Let's do awesome things! Get support for your projects and ideas from TDF budget Want to organise a local LibreOffice event? Need some merchandise to boost your project or community? Then we can help you! The Document Foundation, the non-profit behind LibreOffice, is backed by contributions from ecosystem members and volunteers, as well as donations from end-users. This helps us to maintain TDF, but we can do a lot more too. And next year, we want to do a lot of projects again! Each year, we set a budget that LibreOffice projects and communities can use for financial support. Some examples: * Booking a location, and travel refunds for a local event (eg a translation sprint) * Merchandise for community members, to use at events and conferences * Infrastructure to start a new project (or help an existing one) So if you have some ideas for a meetup, project or activity that could benefit from financial help, let us know! We can also assist you in other ways: our team members are there to help you, and enable you to do exciting and interesting things. You don't need to work out all the technical details right now - the main thing is that we have an overview. To help us with planning, we kindly ask you to send your ideas by January 6, 2023, as we try to prepare the 2023 annual budget in January. You can send your proposal (with estimated costs) to treasu...@documentfoundation.org and me...@documentfoundation.org, and we'll take a look. Of course, can't guarantee that everything will be considered and approved, but we'd love to hear your ideas! Further reading: Travel: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Policies/Travel Refunding: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Policies/Refunding Community Refunding: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Policies/Community_Refunds -------- -- Italo Vignoli -it...@vignoli.org mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0
[board-discuss] Proposal of Basic Lobby Activity on Behalf of TDF
Following a request made on this list, which I filter (so, I won't read messages which are sent just to this list), this is the email I have sent to the Board of Directors. --- In Milan it has been mentioned several times the need of increasing the presence of the LibreOffice community at EU level, to get more information about legislative activities, increase our profile and leverage the potential opportunities. I would like to start a structured activity based on the following actions: 1. Attend OFE (Open Forum Europe) meetings, both virtual and in person, to establish or reinforce the relationships with the other stakeholders, and get involved in activities targeted to the EU (at large). In 2022 OFE has had two in person events (Brussels and Barcelona), and monthly online meetings. 2. Attend DIGIT and DG Connect events and workshops in Brussels, to reinforce the relationship with these structures, and make our voice heard on subjects such as FOSS, open standards and digital sovereignty. 3. Work with other stakeholders - FOSS related organizations such as OSBA and companies such a Murena, which have shown their commitment - at the creation and development of a lobbying activity in the common interest. 4. Of course, pursue other opportunities which are unforeseen at the moment (but could arise as an effect of the structured activities). In term of budget, I forecast a yearly figure of € 6,000 maximum (based on 12 events during the year, which at the moment - missing a schedule - is a best guess). I would manage the activities within my current relationship with TDF, and regularly report to the BoD on a regular basis in writing, and at least once per month in person during the BoD meeting to answer questions. The first event to attend would be the DIGIT/DG Connect workshop in Brussels, scheduled on December 2 (expenses for this meeting, if approved, could be easily covered by 2022 marketing budget). I therefore ask the BoD to approve/not to approve the activity ASAP, in order to organize the participation at the december workshop in due time. --- Best regards. -- Italo Vignoli -it...@vignoli.org mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0
[board-discuss] Re: LibreOffice in app stores free, paid or both?
We provide a free version to all users on our website, which can be installed with a negligible effort on Windows (to disable the block) and macOS (to allow software from third parties), so the version available from app stores should have a cost (not only to cover the additional effort and expenses, but also to educate users to make the small effort requested to install the free version, which is often THE excuse for not switching to free software). On 7/11/22 15:52, Paolo Vecchi wrote: Hi all, I just wanted to ask the community how they think LibreOffice should be published in the various app stores. Should it be: a. available at a cost b. free c. both As this is one of the items that will be discussed during tonight's board meeting, it would be great to have comments in writing and also having you in the meeting to share your point of view. Ciao Paolo -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - emailit...@libreoffice.org GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0
[board-discuss] IMPORTANT UPDATE LibreOffice Conference
We apologize for being silent about LibreOffice Conference 2022, but we have had significant but unforeseeable logistic issues in Bolzano when we have looked for available hotel rooms. Even the local tourism authority has not been able to find more than a handful of rooms available for the last week of September, definitely not enough for the number of attendees we are expecting. Luckily, there are other beautiful cities in Italy. To avoid similar issues, we have decided to explore Milan, as the number of conference venues and hotel rooms is so large that chances of finding somethig suitable was definitely higher. In fact, we have found a beautiful conference space right behind Piazza del Duomo at Fondazione Culturale San Fedele, right in the center of the city, and rooms in hotels close to the metro (which reaches Piazza del Duomo). The conference will represent an opportunity to visit Milan, which is one of Italy's most beautiful cities. We will share all logistic details before July 15. Together with the logistic details, we will share infos about places to see, and food & drinks to enjoy. The dates of the conference have not changed: we will start on September 28 with community meetings, while the conference will be on September 29 and 30 (full day), and will close in the morning of October 1st. People who want to attend the event can start looking at flights to one of Milan's three airports: Milan Linate (LIN), Milan Malpensa (MXP) and Bergamo Orio al Serio (BGY). Milan can be reached by high-speed train from Paris, and with long-distance trains from most of Europe. As soon as we share logistic details, we also suggest people to look for hotel rooms based on the list of affordable hotels close to the metro we are putting together. Most of the hotels will be rather small, as large hotels are usually quite expensive. Milan has a rather large metro network, and public transport which get almost everywhere. To get around the city with public transport, we use the Moovit smartphone app, which is quite helpful. Taxis are extremely expensive, and should be used only for emergencies (NEVER from and to airports, as there are cheap bus services). Looking forward to meeting the community in Milan, nine years after 2013 LibOCon hosted by the University of Milan. Best regards, Italo NOTE - Please share this message with your native language community ---- -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Work On Update LOOL (was Re: LOOL is about to be archived)
Replying from the smartphone. The LibreOffice Technology umbrella brand has been developed to group all products based on the LibreOffice transactional engine, independently from their origin and from details which are irrelevant for the end user such as file's headers. Prohibiting its use would be against the spirit and the objectives of the marketing plan, and would kill it forever (the label Community has already killed half of it, by providing a wrong message to the project stakeholders). Best regards, Italo 25 Jun 2022 15:41:03 Paolo Vecchi : > Hi Laszlo, > > thanks for your engagement. Just a few notes as I've been directly involved > in proposing to get the community to be more involved with LOOL and to enjoy > it's use while trying to agree with the major code contributor a mutually > beneficial way to do it. > > On 24/06/2022 17:27, laszlo.nem...@documentfoundation.org wrote: >> >> We need not only a security warning, but clear information that the >> recommended versions of LOOL are still CODE and Collabora Online >> (LibreOffice Technology (TM)). > > I respectfully disagree. > > We can surely promote the fact that there are members of the ecosystem that > provide support and other services that TDF does not provide for LibreOffice > Community on the desktop but then that's it. > > As we are not, yet, delivering to our community LOOL Community we don't have > a supported edition to recommend. CODE and Collabora Online are just other > products from a member of the ecosystem that at present have no TDF's hosted > community version to refer to. > > So at the end we cannot recommend an enterprise version of something we do > not publish. > >> >> A few months ago my corporate client wasted time and money because they >> didn't notice on the >> TDF site that LOOL is not actively developed. > > It was a very unfortunate outcome and but it's a long time that we promote > the fact that corporate clients should seek adequate support services. > > LOOL has been frozen, by a split board vote, due to the unilateral decision > of the major code contributor to fork and not contribute back. > > You will find in the board-discuss archives several threads that try to > explain how hard the board worked to provide more support to members of the > ecosystem and to find a mutually beneficial agreement but once we made good > our side the agreement the other side just walked out. > >> Thanks to the helpfulness of employees of >> Collabora Productivity, now they can test its fork with an up-to-date >> LibreOffice in their intranet, and >> started to contribute back to CODE (they have already been one of the >> biggest contributors >> of LibreOffice Desktop). > > It is good that your corporate client can enjoy the benefits of the combined > efforts in terms of code and lots of contributions from TDF and the wider > community. > > Your corporate client made anyway the right choice as, unless they have a > very capable team able to fix bugs and contribute back to a community project > as LOOL was, then they should get support from other parties. > >> >> Why do we need to emphasize that CODE/Collabora Online are the recommended >> versions (by TDF, too: >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice_Online#Current_Status)? > > Thank you for pointing to that page that has been heavily edited since last > time I looked at it. > > It now seems to be an advertising page for products for which TDF doesn't > have a community counterpart so I wonder if those changes shouldn't be > reverted. > > >> Not only because LOOL was the idea and for the most part, product of >> Collabora Productivity, >> but because the original core LOOL developers still work for Collabora in >> the spirit of the >> free software: CODE is the only actively developed version of LOOL, and this >> is the only maintained >> version which contributes back to LibreOffice actively. > > LOOL has been "temporarily" frozen for a long time so or we take a decision > to bring it back to life, following suggestions that arrived in the past few > days, or there is no LOOL and as a consequence no alternatives to point to. > > OSSII seems to show that it is possible to have both a commercial and a > community version, a bit of a shame that we couldn't find an agreement with a > major contributor of LOOL. If it will be possible to create clear rules for > cooperation, which might also include synergies to improve CJK handling, then > that could be a commercial offering available for enterprise users. Needs > more investigation. > > Andreas options also requires investigation as it seems to involve > backporting of an Open Source project managed by a commercial provider. It > would be great to see if that commercial provider is also willing to > cooperate under clear rules so that we can refer back to their products for > enterprise users. > >> >>> >>> If after 12 months we don't
[board-discuss] IMPORTANT LibreOffice Conference
We have been silent about the LibreOffice Conference because we are experiencing a few unexpected logistic issues. We are working hard to solve them as soon as possible, but in the meantime we ask you to wait before confirming your travel programs, or to get in touch with us if you have already booked your flights. The objective is to keep the dates of the conference, but the location may change to another city. We will communicate the details in the next couple of weeks. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] LibreOffice Conference 2022
The LibreOffice Conference 2022 will be a hybrid event (in presence + remote) from September 28 (community day) to October 1st, with opening session on September 29 at 9:30AM and closing session on October 1st at 1PM. The venue is NOI Tech Park in Bolzano/Bozen/Bulsan (trilingual area) in South Tyrol (Northern Italy), a very well known location for FOSS and the home of the SFScon (South Tyrol FOSS Conference). We will publish the official announcement on the blog and social media, including the sponsorship packages for the ecosystem companies, later this week. Best regards, Italo -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] The Document Foundation suspends RusBITech from its Advisory Board
We have just published the following statement on TDF blog: Following a short exchange of opinions with several community members, as of Saturday 26th of February 2022, TDF has suspended RusBITech’s membership in the Advisory Board. While TDF does not get involved in politics in any way, the apparent involvement of RusBITech with the Russian Federation’s military complex creates a serious moral concern in the current situation. We have reached out to RusBITech to explain why suspending – and possibly cancelling – their membership is a necessary step, based on the information we have been able to gather from their website and other trusted online sources. In the past, we have worked constructively with RusBITech’s representatives, and the decision is in no way related to the people themselves and our cooperation around free open source software. The Document Foundation asks all FOSS advocates and supporters, and all LibreOffice community members, contributors and users across the world to work for peace in these challenging times, and hopes sincerely that the current crisis will soon be over. We will reassess our decision after that. Further updates will be published when more information will be made available. The Board of The Document Foundation https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/02/28/the-document-foundation-suspends-rusbitech-from-its-advisory-board/ -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Re: Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs
On 2/10/22 17:27, Jan Holesovsky wrote: Yes, but it looks like the discussion is blocked one step before reaching a consensus on this very simple point. If the discussion stays as such, I have to say that I don't feel I am represented - as a TDF Member - by any member of the just elected board of directors (of course, those who have expressed their opinions). This is very sad to hear :-( I am afraid this is a product of the unilateral & vigorous presentation of hiring developers as the only way forward, regardless of what the ecosystem companies have to say. I disagree. This is the result of BoD members pointing fingers to each other without even trying to start a discussion and reach consensus. I would have applauded a reaction to the message that has opened this thread which was integrating the proposal with some additional thoughts and suggestions, to specify which could be the areas where a developer hired by TDF could work for the common benefit of the project. Sorry, but I haven't seen anything like this so far. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Re: Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs
On 2/10/22 17:53, Michael Meeks wrote: It would be deeply unfortunate if the above was read as questioning the legitimacy and composition of the new board - and that before they have been seated and/or taken a single decision. It would be good to clarify that reading. I am not questioning the legitimacy and composition of the board, I am questioning the behaviour of its members. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Re: Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs
Hi Michael, Thanks for summarizing my thoughts on your email (as far as I can understand from your message, we share exactly the same ideas). On 2/10/22 13:36, Michael Weghorn wrote: I agree here that there are several areas like CJK and CTL (and not only for bug fixes) or ally that should deserve much more love from TDF and I'm sure our donors would be happy that we invest in this area too. That would help also to grow this part of the community, which is very complicated to achieve when our version is difficult to use. Totally agree. That sounds like a good approach to me, in particular for areas where there's currently no specific interest from ecosystem companies or volunteers and that are unsuitable for tenders, but considered important for the community. I would see that in line with how TDF already employs non-developer staff to take care of other important aspects not (sufficiently) covered by other contributors. Totally agree. I have the impression that a fundamentally important question is what the purpose/task of TDF-internal developers would be. Yes, but it looks like the discussion is blocked one step before reaching a consensus on this very simple point. If the discussion stays as such, I have to say that I don't feel I am represented - as a TDF Member - by any member of the just elected board of directors (of course, those who have expressed their opinions). If larger topics that TDF-internal developers were to work on were first agreed on in the bodies where ecosystem companies are present as well (like ESC and/or the board), my expectation would be that the development work from different sides should work together nicely, rather than creating any kind of destructive competition. (Ecosystem company products profit from contributions made to LibreOffice as well, and having a better overall product should in my opinion also increase the range of potentially interested customers in general.) Totally agree. Of course, in case the main intention were for TDF to provide more business-like services (like an LTS version or creating an impression of "donate a certain amount of money and your pet bug will be fixed"), I see very well how that might interfere significantly with the business model of ecosystem companies. Totally agree. But I don't see the issue, as ESC and BoD members could easily stop any project before it starts, when there is a potential risk of conflict. AFAIK, major development activities are scrutinized by both bodies, as they are ranked in order of importance, suggested, approved and transformed to tenders, or not considered for tendering. Development activities which are not considered for tendering, or just ignored, could probably be developed by TDF without creating disruptions (or even discussions). I am rather sure that in 7 million lines of code (plus the open bugs) there are enough challenges for everyone. Of course, given my complete lack of understanding of development, is too easy to find a technical angle to disprove what I just wrote, but it would also be disproving what many of the contributors - the community - think, and this would confirm my personal belief that TDF BoD does not represent the community as a whole, but only a portion of it. Assuming members in the involved LibreOffice/TDF bodies found a way to work together constructively, my current impression is that this approach could be for the benefit of all. Again, totally agree. Best regards, Italo -- Italo Vignoli - it...@vignoli.org mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs
On 2/10/22 14:56, Jan Holesovsky wrote: Comes to my mind - as you deal with the donors daily, and particularly ask them why do they want to stop their recurring donations (in case they do), I wonder if there is an aggregated data available somewhere? The majority of recurring donations is stopped immediately after the first donation by the donor, when he gets the receipt and realizes that he has triggered a recurring donation instead of a one off. Then there is a number of donors who ask to stop the recurring donation. Some of them provide a reason, which in some cases is that he wanted to donate once and not on a recurring basis, in some cases lack of money, and in some other because they don't use the software anymore (no bug or other technical reason provided). A small number of donors block donations because the software doesn't fit their needs or is too difficult to use (again, without providing any technical reason or a bug). You should always consider the fact that only a very small number of users is capable of spotting bugs, as for them the software always works as intended. It took me several years to get a marginal understanding of bugs, and I have been working in technology environments since 1982. The majority of users is technically dumb, including people who are supposed to be competent, and this is just a fact. Also, in case it is a concrete problem that stops them donating any longer, please do you have an opportunity to file bugzilla tickets for such cases? Since 2013, not a single user has related stopping donations with bugs, while some donors have related their donation to solving bugs. Best regards, Italo -- Italo Vignoli - it...@vignoli.org mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] LibreOffice Conference 2021 Sponsorship Packages
Sponsorship packages for LibreOffice Conference 2021 can be downloaded from the following link: https://e.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZwiAVZJ4oehb31sWFk5YnvW1uV4h5ALuSk -- Italo Vignoli - it...@vignoli.org mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] Vote about Certification Updates
As agreed during the last BoD call (July 2nd), I would like the BoD to approve the following: 1. Develop a training for certification (attached), which allows to access the "LibreOffice Certified" entry level (without specification about migrations and training), after the usual certification review. Once the training for certification has been approved, it will be transformed into a series of online training classes provided through Udemy (which seems to be almost a standard for certification training, as it is used by Microsoft, Oracle and Cisco, plus others). 2. Keep the current "Migration Professional" and "Professional Trainer" as main level certification for people who have a hands-on experience in migrations or training (exactly as in the past). People with LibreOffice Certification could apply for Professional Certification after 12 months from the first certification, based on a migration/training project with extensive documentation (a detailed report of the migration project, or a detailed evaluation of the training project). Only people with full pre-requisites compliance can directly access Professional Certification without going through LibreOffice Certification. 3. Create the certification training for single applications: "LibreOffice Writer/Calc/Impress/Draw/Base Certified Trainer", which is simple and uncontroversial. 4. Create a "Senior Migration Professional" and a "Senior Professional Trainer" certifications, only for certified professionals who have been active in the project for a while and contribute as volunteers in some area. 5. Update all certification related documents to reflect all the above. Thanks, Italo -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 tdf-certificationtraining.odp Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.presentation
[board-discuss] Re: Reach out for ad space
Hi, we are not accepting any kind of advertising on our web properties, independently from the topic. Best regards. On 6/2/21 3:03 PM, jason...@elorbita.com wrote: "Hello, We are interested in advertising. We want to advertise guest article on your site planet.documentfoundation.org. Our article will be written according to your site theme and will include a link to a betting site. What is the rate for this? IMPORTANT: If you are not accepting links to gambling site we might be still interested, Please mention the rate for regular links as well Skype: shanker2020 Telegram 9966160005 WhatsApp number: 9966160005 Thank you" -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members
OSI statement: https://opensource.org/OSI_Response On 3/23/21 6:46 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: I'll be more direct than Andreas in this matter. Given the FSF Board has demonstrated[1] that it is aware that reappointing RMS would be regarded as bad judgement by everyone at LibrePlanet, and given other organisations[2] are choosing to disconnect FSF from their governance, TDF's Board should also consider removal of FSF from their advisory board, at least temporarily until it has achieved representative governance. S. [1] https://twitter.com/fsf/status/1374399897558917128?s=20 <https://twitter.com/fsf/status/1374399897558917128?s=20> [2] https://www.outreachy.org/blog/2021-03-23/fsf-participation-barred/ <https://www.outreachy.org/blog/2021-03-23/fsf-participation-barred/> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:08 AM Andreas Mantke <mailto:ma...@gmx.de>> wrote: Hi, I read about the change in the board of the FSF, a member of the TDF Advisory Board: https://www.zdnet.com/article/richard-m-stallman-returns-to-the-free-software-foundation-board-of-directors/ <https://www.zdnet.com/article/richard-m-stallman-returns-to-the-free-software-foundation-board-of-directors/> There are a lot of contributors in the Free Software business, which are seeing this change toxic for this business. What's the position of TDF board on this topic? And how to proceed with the Advisory Board membership? Regards, Andreas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org <mailto:board-discuss%2bunsubscr...@documentfoundation.org> Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ <https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette> List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ <https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy <https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy> -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] Marketing Plan: Final Slide Deck
I have uploaded on Nextcloud the final slide deck for the marketing plan, based on the BoD decision about the label, and including usage rules for the different terms. The document can be downloaded from the following public link: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/iy53cisjdAdq82S. Also, is available in the shared Marketing Plan folder for those who can access it. Further documents and slide decks will follow during the next 3 weeks, as part of the package for the upcoming LibreOffice 7.1 announcement. Happy Holidays, Italo -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] LibreOffice 7.1 marketing plan and label ("tag")
On 12/15/20 6:41 PM, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > I personally like 'Rolling' a lot, it just appears we can't pull it > off for 7.1. But the label is "community", which is really impossible to associate with the idea of anything "rolling", which means that the label will not help here. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] LibreOffice 7.1 marketing plan and label ("tag")
On 12/15/20 2:38 AM, Brett Cornwall wrote: > Of note is that all of this has not been soliciting the feedback of the > target audience. We need to know what works with the target audience - > the so-called "freeloaders", the entire point of this change - to > measure the effectiveness of such a change. Anything less results in > wild speculation with an unknown result until the change is pushed and > is "tested in production". Actually, a panel representing the target audience was solicited, and the answer was "personal". That proposal, which was considered as BS by several people, was done for free by a friend of mine - a Senior VP of Interbrand, the leading branding agency worldwide - on their panel of naming experts. Of course, as they did it for free on a friendly basis (it usually costs from 50K US dollars up), we didn't get the usual report they produce for similar naming projects. But for a bottle of Sagrantino and some salami from Norcia (both from my birthplace) we couldn't expect it. > While it's admirable that the contributing community was consulted we're > only collecting data from a specific group of nerds, not the "real > world". That "rolling" made it to final votes is a testament to that > fact... While "rolling" is a term associated to software releases only by nerds, the "rolling" concept can easily be associated with something moving forward by normal people. So, if you de-couple "rolling" from "release", and couple it with "idea" or "object" you get the feeling of what could be the positioning if the choice was "rolling" (very similar to "advance"). -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations
Page has been updated, apologies On 12/2/20 3:02 PM, Lionel Élie Mamane wrote: > On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 12:23:22PM +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote: > > >> As the vote is a tied vote, § 9 IV of the statutes come to >> effect. The Chairperson has the deciding vote, and voted +1 to the >> proposal. > > Interestingly, https://www.documentfoundation.org/governance/board/ > doesn't say who the chair is :) > -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [tdf-members] [board-discuss] Re: Personal: and software freedom.
On 11/25/20 12:30 PM, Edmund Laugasson wrote: > Does this mean also separate software development, files to download and > LibreOffice functionality in different versions listed below? If so, > then I don't approve this. Imagine separate software packages with > different functionality to download for each of LibreOffice version in > that list. This will fragment LibreOffice and makes it copy proprietary > software approach and basically means commercialization. Certainly we > need engage more people, organizations, enteprises, etc but with > different kind of services (nowadays remotely appreciated). If it is so, > then it's fine. A change of license, features, and development strategy has never been under discussion. The discussion is about labels to be used to improve targeting of the marketing strategy. -- Italo Vignoli - Marketing & PR The Document Foundation & LibreOffice email italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] REMINDER Discussion about Marketing Plan
Please do remind that the next discussion about the marketing plan is scheduled for tomorrow, Wednesday, November 11, at 3PM CET (Berlin time) / 2PM UTC in this room: https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/plan. Of course, this is not intended to replace the discussion on the marketing mailing list, which is open until November 15. Focusing on action items, the discussion is open on the following: 1. Product Label for the community supported version provided by TDF (i.e. Personal or Community or other proposals) 1.1 Proposals and discussion on the public marketing list by November 15 1.2 If necessary, vote for decision only by TDF Members by November 25 1.3 Final board decision during one of the December meetings, before string freeze for 7.1 (due end of January early February) TOPICS TO DISCUSS 1. Label (no label is not an option) 2. Where to position the label: title bar, about box, start center 2. LibreOffice Technology ingredient brand 2.1 Marketing will collect ideas and suggestions about the use of the ingredient brand by November 10, and then will summarize them in a guide 2.2 Board will comment, update and approve the guide by November 25 TOPICS TO DISCUSS 1. LibreOffice Technology ingredient brand 2. Who should use it and where (i.e. just on products, products and marketing materials, other places) 3. LibreOffice Enterprise label 2.1 Marketing will collect ideas and suggestions about the use of the ingredient brand by November 10, and then will summarize them in a guide 2.2 Board will comment, update and approve the guide by November 25 TOPICS TO DISCUSS 1. LibreOffice Enterprise label 2. Who should use it and where (i.e. just on products, products and marketing materials, other places) 4. LibreOffice Certification Discussion will happen on the certification mailing list after LibOCon, for decision by November 25 and BoD approval by December for deployment in 2021 5. LibreOffice Online For the time being, this discussion is on hold until a formal statement from the BoD will clarify the situation WRT the development at TDF. Looking forward to the discussion on the global marketing list (for those not subscribed, the address is market...@global.libreoffice.org). -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] Community/Marketing Budgets 2021
Dear members of LibreOffice native language communities, We are going through challenging times, for reasons which have nothing to do with free open source software. The pandemic is hitting hard every geography, and as a consequence all activities are slowed down or delayed. In 2020, we were supposed to organize events and other face-to-face meetings, and this was reflected by approved budget requests. Because of the situation, the majority of the budget has not been spent. On the other hand, we want to support your community and marketing activities under the new conditions, where the majority of countries is under partial or total lockdowns, or – in the best of cases – with constrained mobility. The situation is not going to change for the foreseeable future, so for the first six months of 2021, if not for the entire year. So, we have to schedule in advance marketing/community activities, to approve the budget as soon as possible – hopefully before the end of 2020 or very early in 2021 – and have the time to get organized. We are therefore asking native language communities to provide the following: 1. A list of objectives you would like to pursue in 2021. Please avoid wishful thinking, and stick to achievable objectives. A few examples: organize a virtual meeting with public administrations to educate them about LibreOffice and ODF; organize a local Virtual LibreOffice Conference; support local groups organizing activities – from remote – in schools and universities; etc. 2. For each objective, provide a rationale and a sensible amount of money. Again, we are spending donations money, and we must be extremely cautious both with requests and with approvals. Requests missing a rationale or spending details (easy to understand) will not be approved. 3. For requests equal or exceeding 1,000 euro, you must provide the outline of a project, because a large amount of money is probably covering different expense chapters (infrastructure, suppliers, OOP money) and budget approvers should be allowed to have a clear picture of what they approve. Examples of activities which TDF will provide a budget for: 1. virtual community events (aimed at getting face-time for contributors) 2. marketing activities (aimed at representing the project to the outside world) 3. community events in presence (only if possible according to the local law) 4. targeted projects (for instance, promoting LibreOffice in schools) In addition, we ask you to provide a list, if any, of infrastructure related requests, such as - for example - additional computing power or new services for your native language community. The idea is to have a good plan for 2021 as soon as possible, while keeping the administrative overhead low, and have two authorizers responsible for the final approval of the budget. TDF BoD will provide a budget bucket for marketing and a budget bucket for community. Budget requests will be associated to the relevant budget, and then approved by budget approvers (according to the availability of funds). ## Before sending any budget request, please read carefully TDF reimbursement policies: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Policies/Community_Refunds. Deadline for the submission is November 30, 2020. Submission should be sent to treasu...@documentfoundation.org, with copy to so...@libreoffice.org, flo...@documentfoundation.org and it...@libreoffice.org. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] IMPORTANT Discussion about Marketing Plan
To facilitate discussion about the marketing plan, I will be available in the following Jitsi room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/plan between 3PM and 4:30PM CET (Berlin time) on Wednesday November 4 and Wednesday November 11. If you cannot attend because you are busy, please suggest a different schedule between 9AM and midnight Berlin time (CET or UTC+1), and I will try to organize my agenda to be available at the desired day and time. Of course, this is not intended to replace the discussion on the marketing mailing list, which is open until November 15. Focusing on action items, the discussion is open on the following: 1. Product Label for the community supported version provided by TDF (i.e. Personal or Community or other proposals) 1.1 Proposals and discussion on the public marketing list by November 15 1.2 If necessary, vote for decision only by TDF Members by November 25 1.3 Final board decision during one of the December meetings, before string freeze for 7.1 (due end of January early February) TOPICS TO DISCUSS 1. Label (no label is not an option) 2. Where to position the label: title bar, about box, start center 2. LibreOffice Technology ingredient brand 2.1 Marketing will collect ideas and suggestions about the use of the ingredient brand by November 10, and then will summarize them in a guide 2.2 Board will comment, update and approve the guide by November 25 TOPICS TO DISCUSS 1. LibreOffice Technology ingredient brand 2. Who should use it and where (i.e. just on products, products and marketing materials, other places) 3. LibreOffice Enterprise label 2.1 Marketing will collect ideas and suggestions about the use of the ingredient brand by November 10, and then will summarize them in a guide 2.2 Board will comment, update and approve the guide by November 25 TOPICS TO DISCUSS 1. LibreOffice Enterprise label 2. Who should use it and where (i.e. just on products, products and marketing materials, other places) 4. LibreOffice Certification Discussion will happen on the certification mailing list after LibOCon, for decision by November 25 and BoD approval by December for deployment in 2021 5. LibreOffice Online For the time being, this discussion is on hold until a formal statement from the BoD will clarify the situation WRT the development at TDF. Looking forward to the discussion on the global marketing list (for those not subscribed, the address is market...@global.libreoffice.org). -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] Discussion about Marketing Plan
1. Discussions abut the marketing plan happening here will be ignored, as clearly stated in the message where we asked for contributions only on the marketing mailing list 2. Opinions of people who decided that contributing to the discussion could include insults to other people (such as, what you are saying is utter bullshit) will be ignored, because they have not behaved as good community citizens (so, refrain from writing on the marketing list, as your opinion will not be considered in any case) 3. Sorry, but "no label is not an option" is rather clear as a statement, this is backed by the BoD because the rationale is rather clear, and if we want to have a comprehensive marketing plan where all ecosystem members are involved we need a label (so, again, no label is not an option) -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] The Edition Matter
not jump to >>> the conclusion they are untrustworthy; however, the use of a validated >>> "Libreoffice technology" signifier as Italo has proposed would fix >>> that if >>> it were a problem for other editions to confirm they too are approved by >>> TDF. >>> >>> The term "Community Edition" is very commonly used to differentiate >>> feature-limited versions so if I had to choose, I would rather our >>> version >>> was considered strong because we use an "Official Edition" tag rather >>> than >>> the software produced by others being considered stronger because we >>> use a >>> "Community Edition" tag. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 3:16 PM Nigel Verity >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Doesn't this imply there are some unofficial and, thereby, >>>> untrustworthy >>>> editions in circulation? >>>> >>>> Nige >>>> >>>>> On 23 Oct 2020, at 06:44, Simon Phipps wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Taking on board all the concerns about not giving the impression of a >>>>> weaker version, and if "no label" is really not an option, how about >>>>> calling TDF's package "official edition"? >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Friday, September 25th at 1300 Berlin time (UTC+2)
Constructive discussions and inputs collected from all channels were reflected in the second iteration of the marketing plan, which in fact is substantially different from the first one.
[board-discuss] Re: [tdf-members] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Friday, September 25th at 1300 Berlin time (UTC+2)
On 9/23/20 11:32 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > a) LibreOffice 7.0/7.1 marketing plan > URL: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3206 > Status: Paolo, Franklin, Michael, Thorsten, Mike, Italo continue > working on this, Follow-on meeting was done, information/what is > uncontroversial and could be decided to be done now Redmine ticket has been updated with a link to the third iteration of the strategic marcom plan. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..
On 9/9/20 11:29 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: > This is a very interesting point. 4k people in Weblate, so that would be > 350 persons or so on average for every language that LibreOffice supports? Although I have a degree in humanities, I am still capable of handling basic operations: 4000 divided by 140 active language projects gives as a result 28.6, quite a smaller figure. Even if we consider only the 119 available languages, the figure is 33.6. >> I think that a solution to this issue is to reach out to native language >> communities, especially outside Europe, where the relationship with the >> core group is less strong. > I think we have to recognize that the number of 4k people there is very > high. Even if say 10% would contribute (...) it is unrealistic to expect > that their membership will help with a balanced, strong governance of > the foundation. According to the statutes, if they contribute they can become TDF members. Statutes do not mention at all the way their membership can help a balanced and strong governance of the foundation. And in any case, how each TDF member helps a balanced and strong governance falls under the personal judgement, and here each one may have a completely different point of view. > Yet, having them on our side showing support, spreading the word, is > important. And the same applies in the area of e.g. marketing and > design. We do want to value the support also from people that help on a > booth or do a local presentation 2, 3 times a year and have them engaged. > Is it necessary to try to make them all member? Growing membership is > not a goal of the community. My opinion is completely different here, and I think there are several other people who share my point of view. Actually, several people asked about ideas to grow the membership by involving more contributors. > More important is that the board of > trustees is composed in a way, that this supports that people who > are doing the hard and essential work of development will also be > leading their own work. We cannot afford that the meritocracy > disappears; this is undesired. Sorry, but I completely disagree here. Having a board of trustees based only on developers would be as bad as having a board of trustees without developers, and would kill meritocracy in both cases. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..
On 9/4/20 4:26 PM, Michael Meeks wrote:
> Sorry for that. The essence of the question is simple - if you
> want to grow the membership there are at least these two approaches:
> + encourage more people to contribute more to meet
> the criteria
> or
> + lower the criteria for membership
There is a third solution: convince more contributors to apply for
membership, as many of them do not even know that it is possible to
become TDF members by contributing to LibreOffice.
For instance, we have over 4K people registered on weblate, or 20 times
as many TDF members. Of course, many of them would not qualify as their
contribution is marginal, but many would.
I think that a solution to this issue is to reach out to native language
communities, especially outside Europe, where the relationship with the
core group is less strong.
> I would hope that:
> "* How do you believe we can improve the existing election
>system - assuming the statutes can be tweaked ?"
> Is a legitimate question for the MC candidates ?
I think the question is legitimate if you take away the last portion:
"assuming the statutes can be tweaked". I do not see how the statutes
can be tweaked, but I think that they can be applied with some added
flexibility ("flexible" is different from "tweaked").
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Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan
On 7/16/20 11:36 PM, Uwe Altmann wrote: > Slide 28 > What is the surplus of the sum of "volonteers" and "ecosystem" to form the > "community"? Users? Takers? That is a visual representation of the relationships between volunteers and ecosystem inside the community, and has no relation with the size of the constituents. So outside community and ecosystem there is nothing, but an oval which contains both smaller ovals to show that they are part of the same community has some extra space as a consequence of the oval shape (if I has used circles, the extra space would have been bigger). > And my "ceterum censeo..." > Slide 49/50 > This is why I and some others propose "" set as TDB - so we get "LibreOffice" > and "LibreOffice Enterprise,[brought to you by XYZ]" as a result. This avoids > all of the possible negative connotations each of the proposed "additions" to > the build distributed by TDF brings. And allows the intended discrimination > as well: > Basically we say there is a "LibreOffice" (vanilla) and "LibreOffice with > benefits" (Enterprise,...) - and that's exactly what we want to tell the > people, isn't it? We have to find a solution where there is consensus by all parties, and it looks that consensus is partially missing on the one you suggest. I may or may not agree with the proposed solutions (there will be a day when I will write a lengthy blog post where I will tell in a transparent way what I think about this story and the people involved, but this is not the right time), so the objective is to reach consensus with an acceptable compromise. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan
On 7/15/20 6:36 PM, Kev M wrote: > I still don't like slide 46: "...focused on needs of individual users" - > Why can't it say only "you are using the volunteer supported version of > LibreOffice" - or "you are using the volunteer supported version of > LibreOffice, this version does for enterprise/professional support > services please see [URL to Enterprise page]" That has still to be discussed. > Slides 49 & 50: > I think the board will have to vote on this. Italo's perspective is the > opposite of some of the other engaged users on this issue. Based on the > slides, he sees Personal as implying no restrictions, while Community > does. Others, see it from the perspective that Community implies no > restrictions, while Personal does. Aside from doing a randomized market > research survey of 1,000 respondents there will be no empirically > researched right answer. Actually, the name Personal has been suggested by a branding specialist, based on a knowledge database of thousands of names (he is a friend and a former colleague, so I paid him with rigatoni alla gricia and a good bottle of red wine, but he is usually far more expensive). > Slide 55: > .business is and improvement to .biz (at least in North America), but > why not Libreoffice.com for the commercial version, and Libreoffice.org > for the Community, etc. version? Because libreoffice.com is owned by TDF, and we cannot promote an enterprise product on a TDF web property, as otherwise we would risk to lose our charitable status. So, we need a compromise. > 62: Strongly suggest not adding a Start Screen to LibreOffice online for > UX reasons. There's no need to create a barrier to accessing documents > online when none of the other providers have this layer. The document just confirms that the start screen is missing, and does not even hint to add one. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan
On 7/15/20 6:36 PM, Kev M wrote: > I don't know what the acronym USP means. Unique Selling Proposition -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan
A new version of the strategic marcom plan has been uploaded to Nextcloud: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/4pLtn9xn76BkxFK Please refer to this version for your comment, as it clarifies some specific points which were raised during the discussion, although not mentioned at all in the previous slide deck. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Some problems.
On 7/13/20 3:52 PM, Uwe Altmann wrote: > Coming back to "doing marketing in my sense": So you can point me to a sound > analysis of requirements of our market from which our product development as > well as our market communication is coherently derived? Very interested in > reading that. Of course, we have never performed such an analisys, because we have a peculiar development process which is IMHO rather difficult to steer according to the usual marketing process. I did try to do a similar exercise when I joined the community in 2004 (with a limited community and zero FOSS development experience), and I was told that it was a loss of time as the development was following a different path. So, I have tried to flip the approach and promote the product as it is and build a narrative to provide the missing user focus (the MUFFIN I invented for the UX is a good example of this approach). Yes, it is not the ideal approach. Yes, we should identify the user clusters, and for each user cluster have a list of features which have to be included, and schedule their development/announcement over the life of a release. Is this possible? Based on our development model, I do not think it is possible. We know that in Bugzilla there are end user requests for new features which have been sitting there for years, because either there was no request from the same feature by enterprises willing to pay for them, and there were no developers willing to work on them. So, either we decide - and this is entirely possible - to invest some money on TDF sponsored features, which reflect user needs, and at that time we spend time to figure out the features by looking at requests, and cross checking them with the needs of user clusters, or we risk to spend time in a very interesting activity (I still remember having fun during planning sessions at Honeywell, with heated discussions on the opportunity to offer user visibility on the paper path inside laser printers, which was a killer feature I imposed to engineers, being the only one using printers in the group) without any visible result. Having a limited amount of time, I have always tried to be pragmatic, which of course has pros and cons. During my career, I have always had to reach some compromise to reach the objectives, and in the case of FOSS development is to manage marketing in a peculiar way, so that the focus is more on communications that on product marketing (if you look at LibreOffice 7.0 release notes, you will realize that by no means we can call them "release notes" according to a marketing definition, but this is what we have and what we can rely on for the announcement, and either we wait to have them perfect - something will never happen - or we use what we have). -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Some problems.
On 7/13/20 12:01 PM, Uwe Altmann wrote: > Therefor look for advice from marketing experts (NOT of sales or PR or > communication or the like professionals who call themselves "marketing > expert"!) (sorry Italo, you are undoubtedly a highly qualified communications > professional, but you're not doing marketing in my sense). Thanks for the appreciation as communications professional. By the way during my career I have been Vice President Marketing for Honeywell IS, which at the time was second only to IBM in the computer business, then - as a consultant - Marketing Manager Europe for Adobe, in charge of all activities for PDF and Photoshop (both products were not doing so bad) from 1989 to 1999, when I was hired by Macromedia to launch the Internet product suite (Dreamweaver and all the associated products, but that was indeed a less successful experience), and then I moved - always as a consultant - to Dell in Italy until 2004. I have been in marketing roles from 1981 to 2004, or 23 years, although for quite some time I have had a different "formal" role as the company I was working for was not focused on marketing specific consultancy. I have attended a master training course about B2B Marketing at General Electric Management School in Crotonville (NY) when I was at Honeywell, and I have a BA in Marketing Management at ISTUD in Italy. Of course, I respect your opinion about my limited marketing skills, so this is just for your info. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] LibreOffice Personal & TDF's statutes & purpose
On 7/9/20 6:35 PM, Aravind Palla wrote: > - that there will be no change of license; Based on what you assume there can be a change of license, the marketing plan says exactly the opposite, i.e. we do stay loyal to the copyleft license, which is one of the pillars of the project. > - that there will be no 'exclusive' features for the proposed enterprise > edition other than dedicated support like priority bug-fixing, help, etc.; Same as above. > - that the LibreOffice Community Edition will function as effectively as the > proposed LibreOffice Enterprise Edition without any restrictions; Same as above. > - that the intention of the board is not to commercialize the office suite > which creates commotion among the great community that has been supporting > LibreOffice since years; Same as above. > - that the board respects the principles of freedom (libre) software. Same as above. Sorry, but speculating on topics which are not even mentioned by the marketing plan does not help at all. Using the word personal, as in personal computer, does not imply anything of the above. Yes, the word "personal" can be misunderstood by community members, as only one person - a Fedora contributor - got it right, but it was chosen also to avoid the potential issues of the word "community", which is used by many open core projects for the free and feature limited version (a quick search provides the following: Alfresco, Bacula, Bonita Studio, FengOffice, GitLab, Knowage, Liferay, MySQL, NXLog, Odoo, OnlyOffice, OpenClinica, OpenKM, OpenProject, OpenVPN, Shopware, SonarQube, SugarCRM and Visual Paradigm). Best regards. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] UPDATED Draft Marketing Plan 2020-2025
All community members should look regularly at the dashboard, is a very useful tool which provides a good overview of activities. On 7/9/20 5:21 PM, Paolo Vecchi wrote: > Thanks Italo. > > I still need to learn a lot of stuff ;-) > > Paolo > > On 09/07/2020 17:18, Italo Vignoli wrote: >> Just a quick note. >> >> On 7/9/20 5:11 PM, Paolo Vecchi wrote: >> >>>> Slide 15 and 16 >>>> These two are a slap into the face of many of the community members. It is >>>> made clear that only contributions to the source code are counted - but >>>> outlined as "Community the last two years - community by numbers". Perhaps >>>> the authors should rehearse the regulations of membership of the TDF and >>>> what is considered as contribution there - and correct their metrics then >>>> accordingly in a hurry. For instance, I never contributed one line of code >>>> into the repository - so I'm not contributing? In that metrics surely not. >>>> With Italo or Mike S., I'm not that sure . >>> The title of the slides should probably state that they talk about code >>> contributions. >> The two slides are extracted from the dashboard, and they are about all >> contributions to the project which are parsed by the different tools, so >> they are rather inclusive although they do not include all localizations >> and all email threads. If you look at the dashboard, the page is called >> "community". Code contributions are a subset. >> > -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] UPDATED Draft Marketing Plan 2020-2025
Just a quick note. On 7/9/20 5:11 PM, Paolo Vecchi wrote: >> Slide 15 and 16 >> These two are a slap into the face of many of the community members. It is >> made clear that only contributions to the source code are counted - but >> outlined as "Community the last two years - community by numbers". Perhaps >> the authors should rehearse the regulations of membership of the TDF and >> what is considered as contribution there - and correct their metrics then >> accordingly in a hurry. For instance, I never contributed one line of code >> into the repository - so I'm not contributing? In that metrics surely not. >> With Italo or Mike S., I'm not that sure . > The title of the slides should probably state that they talk about code > contributions. The two slides are extracted from the dashboard, and they are about all contributions to the project which are parsed by the different tools, so they are rather inclusive although they do not include all localizations and all email threads. If you look at the dashboard, the page is called "community". Code contributions are a subset. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] UPDATED Draft Marketing Plan 2020-2025
On 6/18/20 4:17 PM, Mike Saunders wrote: > On 18/06/2020 15:45, Sam Tuke wrote:> >> Slide 36: .biz domains lack credibility in my view, even compared to >> some newer unknown domains. Personally I associate them with >> unscrupulous salesmen, probably because of how "biz" is often used as an >> abbreviation in american English. Consider alternatives like .pro, >> .enterprises, .services. > I agree with Sam here -- ".biz" still has a strong connotation of scam > websites and cheap rip-offs to me. Maybe things have changed in recent > years, but "libreoffice.biz" still makes me feel awkward. > .enterprise, .business or .inbusiness would be better IMO. I consider this a detail of the wider concept to have a website associated to LibreOffice Enterprise. I have not done any research into each domain viability, and I have used BIZ as this was the easiest one to find on registrar's websites, so every improvement is welcome. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] UPDATED Draft Marketing Plan 2020-2025
After 10 years, LibreOffice is a different software in a different market environment. We are quickly approaching the milestone release of LibreOffice 7.0, which, for the first time in over 10 years, will offer a new updated open standard format for office document: ODF 1.3. LibreOffice is now available on the desktop, online and on mobile, in different flavours, and with different names according to the ecosystem company releasing the product. It is therefore the time to update our marketing strategy, based on the current situation and the market outlook for the next 5 years. The approach has been already discussed in private by a small group of people and has reached a first level of consensus. It will be discussed in public during next BoD call, on Friday, June 19, at 1PM CEST. The draft presentation is available online on TDF Nextcloud: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/jzryGw7XDkJadmo Please focus on the overall strategy and not on specific details, as details can be tweaked to reach a wider consensus. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] Draft Marketing Plan 2020-2025
After 10 years, LibreOffice is a different software in a different market environment. We are quickly approaching the milestone release of LibreOffice 7.0, which, for the first time in over 10 years, will offer a new updated open standard format for office document: ODF 1.3. LibreOffice is now available on the desktop, online and on mobile, in different flavours, and with different names according to the ecosystem company releasing the product. It is therefore the time to update our marketing strategy, based on the current situation and the market outlook for the next 5 years. The approach has been already discussed in private by a small group of people and has reached a first level of consensus. It will be discussed in public during next BoD call, on Friday, June 19, at 1PM CEST. The draft presentation is available online at the following address: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/y7SXTdamdB28GGG Please focus on the overall strategy and not on specific details, as details can be tweaked to reach a wider consensus. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Resigning from MC - Rücktritt vom MC
Website updated. Adding hostmaster for mailing lists and other services. On 05/10/2019 11:52, GPS di Gabriele Ponzo wrote: > Could please someone remove K-J from the Web Page [1] and move Ilmari > among full members? > Then K-J should be removed from MC's ML, Gerrit and Git groups, if it > isn't been already done. > > Thanks in advance. > --- > Gabriele Ponzo > GPS - Terni > > [1] https://www.documentfoundation.org/governance/mc/ > > > Il giorno mer 25 set 2019 alle ore 10:10 Ilmari Lauhakangas > <mailto:ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org>> ha scritto: > > Florian Effenberger kirjoitti 25.9.2019 klo 10.57: > > Hello, > > > > as per § 12 II of our statutes [1], the deputy that follows next in > > order of preference will become a full member of the membership > committee. > > > > Based on the last elections [2], Ilmari Lauhakangas is the next > elected > > deputy. > > > > I therefore ask you, Ilmari Lauhakangas, do you want to accept > your new > > role and want to serve in The Document Foundation's membership > committee > > as a full member? > > > > Florian > > > > > > [1] https://www.documentfoundation.org/satzung.pdf (binding > version) and > > https://www.documentfoundation.org/statutes.pdf (non-binding > translation) > > > > [2] > https://elections.documentfoundation.org/results.php?election_id=10 > > > > I accept the role of a full member of the membership committee. > > Ilmari Lauhakangas -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Public agenda for TDF BoD web meeting on Friday, January 18th at 1400 Berlin time
On 13/01/2019 23:00, Marina Latini wrote: > Dear Community, > the board will meet again > > on Friday, January 18th at 1400 Berlin time > > We'll meet using our own Jitsi instance at > https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/TDFBoard > or at > https://meet.jit.si/TDFBoard **ONLY** as fallback. > > > > Public Part > > FOSDEM updates > > > > If you have something to discuss with the board, please, reply to this > message and join us during the meeting. I can join to answer questions about the FOSDEM schedule -- Italo Vignoli - Marketing & PR email italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - skype italovignoli hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Public agenda for TDF board web meeting on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time
I strongly support the request for a TDF specific logo/icon, while I don't think we should reopen the mascot topic because of the comments we have received during the last Reddit AMA, which clearly show that there would be flames from a group not involved in the community but vocal enough to disrupt our process. On 19/11/2018 10:14, Heiko Tietze wrote: > I'd like to ask again for a decision regarding the MIME icon. Question was if > we can find a more appearing icon for LibreOffice or create something more > special for TDF (the brand is too close to the product). And I received a > request to restart the mascot topic. Belongs to the same topic, somehow. -- Italo Vignoli - Marketing & PR email italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - skype italovignoli hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] limited ability to contribute for some time
Hi Cor, best wishes for a fast recover, and for the new house and office. See you soon stronger than before. Ciao, Italo On 20/06/2018 12:44, Cor Nouws wrote: > Some already know, but repeating for others to know: 10 day's ago I've > broken the elbow of my right arm, the one that is leading, so I'm in a > phase where I have to be careful and am limited in what I can and not. > This in the situation where we just moved home (and office) to a new > house, with lots to do. -- Italo Vignoli - Marketing & PR email italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - skype italovignoli hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Re: [tdf-membership] New Membership Committee member
Will update the website ASAP On 22/08/2017 09:06, Stephan Bergmann wrote: > On 08/13/2017 11:54 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: >> The Membership Committee voted for Stephan Bergman to be the new member, >> so that we are again with five full members. >> Welcome Stephan! > > I, Stephan Bergmann, elected members of the Membership Committee of The > Document Foundation, hereby accept this position within the Stiftung > bürgerlichen Rechts "The Document Foundation". My term will start August > 13, 2017. > > Signed: Stephan Bergmann > > Ich, Stephan Bergmann, gewähltes Mitglied des Memerbership Committes der > The Document Foundation, nehme mein Amt innerhalb der Stiftung > bürgerlichen Rechts "The Document Foundation" an. Meine Amtszeit beginnt > am 13. August 2017. > > Signed: Stephan Bergmann > -- Italo Vignoli - Marketing & PR email italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - skype italovignoli hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] Travel Request
I will fly to Tirana in early June (9 to 12 of June) for a two day workshop, to go through the migration and the training protocols with the local team, and train them on LibreOffice and ODF. I will also try to understand if there are people willing to start contributing on the source code, to provide local support. Maximum total cost is around 300 Euro (200 Euro flight + 100 Euro lodging). I kindly ask other budget approvers to express their opinion (as I abstain). Best, Italo -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] COSCUP Taiwan
COSCUP is the largest open source event in Taiwan, and is planned for August 5/6 in Taipei. The schedule will be based on tracks, which will be organized and managed by open source communities. Based on Franklin Weng suggestion, we will file a proposal for an ODF community track to educate the government about the advantages of switching to the ODF standard document format to foster interoperability, with sessions in English and Chinese. The Taiwanese community has invited me to talk about open standards and educate about ODF within the migration to LibreOffice, expanding what I have already presented at LibreOffice Conferences and in speeches in Italy to the Ministry of Defence. Based on the travel schedule, Franklin Weng will also try to organize a meeting with the local authorities just before or after the event, to strengthen the relationship with TDF. Unfortunately, travel cost to Taiwan are not negligible. At the moment the combination between flight ticket and accommodation is around 1,400 Euro. Based on these figures, I ask for approval of the expense (being myself a budget approver, I abstain). Thanks, Italo -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] Harassment and lack of code of conduct
Hi Bubli, thanks for raising the issue. On 12/01/2017 12:24, Katarina Behrens wrote: > At the very least, in the absence of "real" code of conduct, a clear and > concise public statement (in what particular form, I don't quite care) should > be made by TDF that such behaviour ( = harassment, stalking, etc.) is not > going to be tolerated and the offenders are not going to get away with it. I think we should have a real code of conduct. The community has grown outside the traditional boundaries of FLOSS (where you might find only nice people, although I am not sure at all), and as any sizeable community extending the reach to social media should have a real code of conduct (by the way, we usually have on for conferences, so it should not be an issue to extend it to the community). > Related to that, there is no plan of action (or not one that I'd know of) how > to deal with incidents and what steps to take (on mailing lists, IRC, social > networks etc.) when things go wrong. Sure, it's perfectly clear to me that > those plans don't work most of the time and every case has to be dealt with > individually (sometimes e.g. hangout featuring both affected parties and a > mediator is a good solution, sometimes it's the worst thing you can possibly > think of), ... Finding a single policy is indeed almost impossible. > But again, some public statement by TDF that incidents are going to be dealt > with, we're prepared to act and people are going to be helped when needed > should be made. It'd make people feel more safe. Let's work on a real code of conduct. There are many around which can fit our needs, and we can use as a basis for ours. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] Re: OSCAL Tirana
On 25/03/2016 17:09, Marc Paré wrote: > Could you give us details of the conference and link? We will put it up > on our events calendar. http://oscal.openlabs.cc/ OSCAL (Open Source Conference Albania) is the first annual conference in Albania organized to promote software freedom, open source software, free culture and open knowledge. The Conference will take place at 14th and 15th May 2016 in Tirana. I will attend the entire conference, and there will be a LibreOffice booth staffed by myself with the help of local volunteers. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile +39.348.5653829 - email / jabber it...@libreoffice.org hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] Fwd: OSCAL Tirana
The attached message is still waiting for an answer. In the meantime, I have booked my travel, and the expense is going to be less than half the amount originally forecasted. I need the approval of the expense from the marketing/community budget. Forwarded Message Subject: OSCAL Tirana Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:11:46 +0100 From: Italo Vignoli Reply-To: it...@libreoffice.org Organization: LibreOffice To: TDF Board I have proposed a speech at OSCAL Tirana (May 14/15), which has been accepted. Travel expenses will be around 500 euro (flight plus hotel). I ask for approval of the expense from the marketing/community budget. I will talk about migrations to LibreOffice, focusing on the Italian Defence project. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile +39.348.5653829 - email / jabber it...@libreoffice.org hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] OSCAL Tirana
I have proposed a speech at OSCAL Tirana (May 14/15), which has been accepted. Travel expenses will be around 500 euro (flight plus hotel). I ask for approval of the expense from the marketing/community budget. I will talk about migrations to LibreOffice, focusing on the Italian Defence project. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile +39.348.5653829 - email / jabber it...@libreoffice.org hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] OSI Board of Directors
This is to inform the board and the inner circle that I have put forward my candidacy for OSI Board of Directors, for one of the two associate member roles available in 2016 (on behalf of Associazione LibreItalia). Elections will be in March. If elected, duty will start in April, and will last three years. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile +39.348.5653829 - email / jabber it...@libreoffice.org hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] Marketing Budget Approval for FUEL GILT 2015
FUEL GILT is one of the largest conferences focused on localization issues, and is organized by a number of TDF community members in India (those who have attended the conference in Aarhus). They have invited Sophie and myself to attend the conference, and the idea is the I attend 2015 and Sophie attends 2016, to foster the connection with the Indian NLP and promote LibreOffice and ODF in the Indian market. The conference happens in Chennai (Madras) on November 20-22, and I will present a paper on LibreOffice localization (edited with Sophie's precious help) and one on the ODF document standard (and associated issues, such as free fonts for interoperability). Travel expenses will be lower than 1,000 Euro (flight is around 600 Euro, hotel is less than 75 Euro per night, and other expenses are low in comparison with Europe). For more information on FUEL: http://fuelproject.org/gilt2015/index. I ask Charles to approve the expense from the marketing budget. -- Italo Vignoli - Marketing & PR mobile +39.348.5653829 - email / jabber it...@libreoffice.org hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] Budget Approval for LibreItalia Conference
Associazione LibreItalia asked a grant to cover travel expenses for LibreItalia Conference on November 28, but the BoD prefers to handle the reimbursement within the marketing budget. Charles, can you please approve the expense, which is specified in the attachment? Thanks, Italo -- Italo Vignoli - Marketing & PR mobile +39.348.5653829 - email / jabber it...@libreoffice.org hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 libreitalia-grantrequest.odt Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text
[board-discuss] Pre Approval of Travel Reimbursement
I would like to ask a pre-approval of travel reimbursements from the marketing budget for the following tasks: 1. OSCON Europe, happening in Amsterdam from October 26 to October 28, where I will travel to support the local community at the booth and to meet European journalists (forecasted expense: transportation + hotel = euro 800). 2. Meetings with Italian Government bodies in Rome, where we - myself and Sonia Montegiove - will be introduced by the Ministry of Defense as a part of the agreement signed by Associazione LibreItalia (forecasted expense for two people: transportation + hotel when necessary = euro 1,200). Both forecasts include some flexibility. The final amount should be lower than the total forecasted. Sonia Montegiove has already traveled to Verona for the first meeting, while the other meetings will happen from mid October till the end of November. Being a budget approver for marketing, I abstain. -- Italo Vignoli - Marketing & PR mobile +39.348.5653829 - email / jabber it...@libreoffice.org hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] Publication of ledgers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/2015 00:50, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > I'll probably not announce every monthly update here (unless people > explicitely find this useful); instead interested parties are > encouraged to add the wiki page to their watch list for timely update > emails. I can add a link to the ledgers to the monthly newsletter. I will start working on the August one tomorrow. - -- Italo Vignoli - Marketing & PR mobile +39.348.5653829 - email / jabber it...@libreoffice.org hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJV7JacAAoJEN6Ck0yquNXAiMsIAJxTYhTXqbBWaNWWyLl/5Nx4 dOtcWyicn/DZAPER5iwx8j1BYISYfoNQ6q/bFu8X6Ql+8/Eu9Ah//n098XrQ47iC CiN0UlDjGtxV56sbyOr5+KylDVv+9mlXvmSzu2xTQOq+hxgPL2+AsQUbTAMV5chn Cpdfd+jBF+6HFNo+QtMGsaOFB96KzmfRS2KZ42SNV1SVFsNxmUVI1NnexsNEvUGB jE80UX+nGH4qb+J8ZsWyg3sGKAcZKicVnPZGi5afVfWgUwIdOzT4+SK7uctmIvAp 0whCxNnv3E4scFUbkpfJF81iBrPbBsbdKHo6gfi4vXzphnYXwKNdFkpoAp1elFc= =z7do -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] Tomorrow there won't be any BoD Call
For a number of different reasons, several BoD and staff members (Florian and Sophie) are not available tomorrow afternoon at the time of the planned BoD call. Because of this, the call has been cancelled. According to the schedule, the next BoD call will be on August 5 at 1:30PM UTC (3:30PM CEST or Berlin time). -- Italo Vignoli - Marketing & PR mobile +39.348.5653829 - email / jabber it...@libreoffice.org hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] Budget for event FISL16
Re-Approved, Italo On 07/07/15 13:22, Eliane Domingos de Sousa wrote: > Dear Marketing, > > Apologize for the late request. > > I would like to request a budget for the event FISL16, for expenses with > air ticket and hotel. The event will happen this week July 8 to 11 and > I'll have the following activities: > > * Lecture: LibreOffice Online and LibreOffice 5.0 > * Lecture: LibreOffice Extensions > * Lecture: Strategies of Migration for LibreOffice > * Lecture: LibreOffice Magazine > > Budget: BRL 1.067,00 -- Italo Vignoli - Marketing & PR mobile +39.348.5653829 - email / jabber it...@libreoffice.org hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] Speaking at Conferences in Italy
I have been invited to present LibreOffice in Foligno on Saturday, December 13. I will also lecture about document standards on Friday, December 12, to the members of Perugia Linux User Group. Both events are organized within the migration to LibreOffice of Regione Umbria. Travel expenses are limited to train tickets (euro 95,40), as I will stay at my sister's in Assisi. I have also been invited to present LibreOffice in Cagliari on Saturday, December 20, at a Free Software Conference organized by the local university to remember Giulio Concas, a professor and open source advocate who died in September at age 50. Giulio was a friend of every Italian open source advocate, although we were used to meet only at conferences. I will have to leave on Friday, December 19, and spend the night in Cagliari, as flights are not available on Saturday morning. I anticipate that the cost will not be higher than 250 euro. I ask Charles to approve the expense from the marketing budget. As usual, being a marketing budget approver myself, this happens on the public mailing list for the sake of transparency. -- Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation mob IT +39.348.5653829 - mob EU +39.392.7481795 email it...@libreoffice.org - skype italovignoli email / hangout italo.vign...@gmail.com GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] Travel Expense Approval
On 10/11/14 07:18, Michael Meeks wrote: > Seems obviously sensible to me =) isn't there a marketing budget for > easy approval of such things ? seems too obvious to need a board vote / > distraction to me. I was not asking for a vote, but for a simple approval on a public mailing list. Of course, it belongs to the marketing budget, but - being myself an approver - I did not want to handle it privately between myself and Charles. -- Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation mob IT +39.348.5653829 - mob EU +39.392.7481795 email it...@libreoffice.org - skype italovignoli email / hangout italo.vign...@gmail.com GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] Travel Expense Approval
I will represent the project at the upcoming SFScon in Bolzano, on November 14. This year, we will have a 2 hours long workshop in the afternoon, focused on migrations and certification, in addition to a booth (staffed by local TDF members). I will have to travel by car to bring booth materials with me, and therefore I am asking to cover travel expenses (fuel plus tolls: Euro 90 + Euro 41.20) and lodging for two nights (Euro 40 + Euro 55). Thanks and best regards, Italo -- Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation mob IT +39.348.5653829 - mob EU +39.392.7481795 email it...@libreoffice.org - skype italovignoli email / hangout italo.vign...@gmail.com GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] Board meeting today
On 23/07/14 00:17, Sophie wrote: > I'd like to remind everyone of today's board meeting, which happens at > 1500 UTC. Sorry, but I will not be able to attend as I have to be at OSCON to meet journalists, to get some additional mentions for LibreOffice on articles covering the UK Government announcement. Yesterday I talked with Steven Vaughan Nicols, and was interviewed by Jupiter TV, based in Seattle, which is alwsys nice as there will be some Microsoft employees listening to it. I have also had a long chat with Danese Coopers about IBM and AOO, bringing in some interesting insights. I will work on the details of the test - we will interview Sophie for trainings and Marina for migrations early next week - tomorrow, when OSCON exhibition will be over. Tomorrow I will also meet Puppet Labs' certification manager, to gain additional insights on their process. Tonight I will circulate my notes on CLS, Community Metrics and OSCON (I have jotten down the titles to avoid forgetting them, but I must make them readable for everyone). Today, I also have to work with the CloudOn team for the LibreOffice 4.3 announcement: so far, we have interviews set with InfoWorld, ZDnet and Muktware (but of course we are targeting other magazines). In any case, interesting times for LibreOffice here in the US. -- Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation mob IT +39.348.5653829 - mob EU +39.392.7481795 email it...@libreoffice.org - skype italovignoli email / hangout italo.vign...@gmail.com GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] Board meeting today
On 09/07/14 10:26, Sophie wrote: > I'd like to remind everyone of today's board meeting, which happens at > 1500 UTC. I cannot attend, as I will be traveling back to Milan at that time (together with other people, and therefore not able to speak at all). -- Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation mob IT +39.348.5653829 - mob EU +39.392.7481795 email it...@libreoffice.org - skype italovignoli email / hangout italo.vign...@gmail.com GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] daylight savings and board call time
On 10/20/2013 07:22 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > My preference is moving to 1600 UTC, keeping effective time the same. I agree. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - sip/jabber it...@libreoffice.org skype italovignoli - hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] inviting Brazilian community members to Freiburg
On 08/26/2013 05:20 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Costs will approximately be 1.500 € per person, given the current flight > rates and hotel estimations, so I would like, with some reserve, to ask > for 4.000 € in total. +1 -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - sip/jabber it...@libreoffice.org skype italovignoli - hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] hiring Christian Lohmaier
On 10/06/2013 18:15, Florian Effenberger wrote: > After the contract has been drafted now and sent to the board in > private, I hereby ask the board to > 1. vote on hiring Christian Lohmaier, for a limited period of one > year, part-time with 20 hours per week, specifically for web > development, at costs not exceeding 25.000 € per year, > 2. authorize Thorsten Behrens and me to sign the work contract on > behalf of TDF +1 -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - sip/jabber it...@libreoffice.org skype italovignoli - hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] Travel Approval
I have been able to get a last minute speaking opportunity at the Debian Ubuntu Community Conference in Italy (DUCC-IT), to speak about LibreOffice and opportunities for collaboration for Italian volunteers. I will travel using my train points (so, for free) up to Fermo, but I will spend around 100 euros for a room in a B&B (two nights) and around 20 euros to reach my house in Assisi, from where I will travel to Rome for another meeting at Agenzia per l'Italia Digitale (the second part from Assisi will be covered by the already approved budget). I will leave tomorrow afternoon and get back on Tuesday. I ask the BoD to approve an amount of 140 euro (more than I will spend, just in case) to charge on the marketing budget. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - sip/jabber it...@libreoffice.org skype italovignoli - hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] Reminder: BoD call tomorrow
Il 28/05/2013 19:42, Florian Effenberger ha scritto: Right now, there are now agenda items listed. If anyone has a topic to discuss, please add it in time - otherwise I propose we adjourn the call and meet two weeks later. Will add certification for migrations, training and support. I will also circulate a message on this subject tonight. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - sip/jabber it...@libreoffice.org skype italovignoli - hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] dialling in via Google Hangouts
Il 15/05/2013 15:56, Florian Effenberger ha scritto: Hear you in an hour, Might be a couple of minute late, but I will join for sure. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] Board Strategy Meeting
On 05/10/2013 06:41 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Can all board members give me feedback on when is best (or when it > doesn't work out at all), so I can send out a Doodle poll soon? OK the following weekends June 8/9 and 22/23 July 13/14 and 20/21 August 24/25 and 31 September 1 and 7/8 and 14/15 -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] board meeting on Wednesday
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/27/2013 03:01 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > There would be a regular board meeting scheduled on Wednesday, May > 1st. This is a public holiday here in Germany, and probably also in > other countries. In Italy, too. > As probably neither Thorsten, nor Andreas, nor I are home that day, > and there's nothing urgent on the agenda, I propose to skip that > meeting. I will be at home, but I agree about skipping the meeting. - -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRe+cZAAoJECNmDwpoF+cJ0CIH/j1Mm/SnzcCMALAMaMbNj/C5 L2/ri4mGO+Bi/7Grx5/gFXVkCf6LVEAPh3VM3zGfWhR3hcJ99d70+gdqEv+Mr2j4 86WNn+bDcQziczL2yA1uVZ5P7QpeXfi2zKd/hsCmY7JBNuzqiY4slXoLXiWnSsZr aX6nDsBIQfBW+E+wcQSE3jQ8eqilGUoNxl6QM7x/S+L2bbex0ByFUPNyG1nLXkM/ IfPzwkYFQAtAgTAmLbnsw7EP/UOXzZGXjZqyGWLYemUQIbDWtO772F/3B4OIIdV/ UPFnLyxHFBe9qjTKjCSYNPZztsEVS0/V6zjeQiwujZXmgaiKdrevKyDoXopFEx8= =3ogG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [board-discuss] new BoD call time due to daylight saving time
On 03/29/2013 01:53 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: in many countries, this Sunday daylight saving time will start again. In order to keep the effective time of the board calls constant, I'd hereby like to have a quick vote. My request is to change the call time from 1600 UTC to 1500 UTC. +1 -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
Re: [board-discuss] Request for auxiliary travel budget Dresden Impress Sprint
Thorsten Behrens wrote on 2013-03-01 14:44: Our host has a budget for accomodation and travel, and with current registrations it appears we will not exceed that. Still, to not have participants being deterred for lack of money, I'd like the board to approve an extra € 1,000.00 for travel bursaries, only to be used when host budget has run dry. +1 (unfortunately, there won't be pasta hacking this time) -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
Re: [board-discuss] Travel Expenses
On 2/13/13 5:37 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> I assume you are talking about the decision # 20121220-01 from
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/BoD_Decisions, right? ("budget
> of 2,000 € for Italo Vignoli's trip to POSSCON and LibrePlanet")
Yes.
> So, for the Oman trip there has been no budget approved at all so far,
> it is only for POSSCON and LibrePlanet, as far as I can so. For the ease
> of voting, I propose to:
OMAN should be mostly covered, although I have discovered by digging
into the country website that I might be asked to pay for the enry VISA
(around 40 Euro, but this is not clear), plus I will have to cover taxi
transfers and meals, and I do not know - because I did not get answers
to my questions - to which extent the organization covers them (might be
all covered, but I will discover it once there).
The US trip could prove more expensive than planned because of taxes on
lodging, which are difficult to understand as they are not shown on the
hotel rates, and other possible extras. I have booked hotels different
from the event suggested ones, as I have found cheaper options (but
unfortunately not so cheap).
I hope to spend the lowest figure, of course, but I prefer to ask in
advance than to create a problem afterwards.
> 1. Vote on having a budget of 2.500 € in total for your trips to
> POSSCON, LibrePlanet and FOSSC Oman,
> 2. thereby revoking decision # 20121220-01
> Did I get this right, does this make sense, or did I miss some requests?
> Please confirm, then we can start voting. ;)
I confirm, and I will abstain from the vote for obvious reasons.
--
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mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it
skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
Re: [board-discuss] budget for business cards
On 2/12/13 11:32 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Italo Vignoli has kindly produced business cards for the whole board, to > hand out during events and other official occasions. The total costs for > all cards is 657,60 €. > I'd like the board to approve this sum for the production. I prefer to abstain, for obvious reasons. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
Re: [board-discuss] additional FOSDEM budget
+1 On 1/29/13 2:19 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > +1 from my side, of course as well > > Florian Effenberger wrote on 2013-01-28 12:43: >> Hello, >> >> the board has previously approved [1] 2.000 € for FOSDEM collaterals. >> Because we would like to opt for higher quality t-shirts, plus produce >> some stickers in addition, I'd like to ask the board to approve an >> additional 600 € for collaterals. >> >> Although the amount sounds rather high, we try to give away t-shirts at >> FOSDEM for donations to get some return money, plus t-shirts not sold >> will be taken to other trade shows. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
[board-discuss] Travel Expenses
I will travel to Oman in midi February, for the Free & Open Source Software Conference (http://fossc-oman.net/). Flight and lodging are covered by the organization, but I will incur in some expenses for local transportation (mostly taxis) and meals. In addition, I will spend the following amounts for my trip to the US in late March, based on a thorough research of the least expensive options: Flight Milan - Boston - Charlotte (NC) - Milan: Euro 700 Hotel Boston (4 nights): US $ 636 (Euro 473) Rental Car Charlotte (car to travel to Columbia, SC): Euro 82 Hotel Columbia, SC (3 nights): US $ 380 (Euro 283) Of course, I will incur is some additional expenses for fuel and meals which could unfortunately exceed the approved budget of Euro 2,000. I therefore ask the BoD to approve an additional budget of Euro 500 to cover expenses for fuel, transportations and meals incurred during the two trips. I will also ask for a reimbursement of the amounts already disbursed for flight tickets and car rental, through SPI. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
Re: [board-discuss] 2013 budget as of today
On 1/29/13 12:06 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > For SPI, who kindly provide travel funding for many of our events, it > seems that after lots of payments, there are still 31.000 USD in the > bank. (Note: This money does not directly belong to TDF and is spent at > the sole discretion of SPI for the LibreOffice community.) Don't worry, I will spend a lot of money by traveling on behalf of TDF... -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
Re: [board-discuss] Splashscreen & Startscreen proposals for the 4.0
On 1/28/13 3:22 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Rather, for the current discussion, let's talk between the marketing > team and the design team, at eye-level, and not with the board's > authority. Florian, I think I have over-reacted, and I know this should not happen. Being a volunteer, I know that I have not been a good community member today, but I hope that this will prevent us from making mistakes in the future. We should aim to improve the process. In any case, social networks cannot become a community tool, because people who refuse to engage on mailing lists cannot be included in community decisions. The background noise on social networks is terrible, and does not allow to discuss in "business" terms (a system where you have "likes" is not a decision system by any mean). So, votes should happen only on mailing lists. We can decide to get the random opinion of users on Google+, but it should be clear that this is not going to have the same value as the same concept expressed on the mailing lists. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
Re: [board-discuss] [VOTE] Ask for additional employement budget
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 1/24/13 7:31 PM, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > Barring any other changes to taxes and social security dues over > the year, I'd therefore ask the board to approve € 600.00 on top of > the already-approved budget for employment, thus totalling an > annual sum of > > € 37.307,40 + € 600.00 = € 37.907,40 +1 - -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRAaYXAAoJEN6Ck0yquNXARaoH/A8wUC3jTUdqy4yyuMfAW4QX RvJ9O+WRQ7rlA4+8m//qdTBTJLfPukPR/4EMHmuSdzyFS5boebMSl54Icf2pemRe 680U0eQlJKVCogOP5z4tfDxs2G6Dt3kE/XDZTjkn6542k5G1Xfa1AGQjV35PClhm wkgpGLEC6bhjxaHyvlB/YEllhAvtKMOSl/S9tIcDpBclK0XaIPCdqYXHiYmmlF1k 4/pY1C/gIrkvzBze9srAheF/nZS+S/lcT3hMppS7S0fYwUS3Dm5C2RtTdztIzuYq ZHvLowj0n3SOubQLh8dBOXKwk5yaqvhizc5be1fwhfbT2fXYt/7EQgyKIv6wdDg= =wTl5 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [board-discuss] Request pre-approval of personal expenses for SCALE 11x
On 1/19/13 6:21 AM, Jean Weber wrote: > I am organising the LibreOffice booth at SCALE 11x, 22-25 February in > Los Angeles. > https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale11x > > I request pre-approval for reimbursement of the following personal > expenses for attending this event: > $ 91.90 Airfare Oakland, CA to Los Angeles, CA (Southwest Airlines) > $259.02 2 nights at Airport Hilton (venue of conference) > -- > $350.92 Total > > I will submit receipts and a signed reimbursement form after the event. > > I will submit a separate request for reimbursement of the cost of > booth supplies. +1 -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
Re: [board-discuss] TDF @ End of 2012
On 1/18/13 10:14 AM, Tom Davies wrote: > They have that famous by-line/strap-line/whatever. Can we use that? > Can we include "Intel the power inside" (or whatever the line was)? No, we definitely can't, as this is a trademark for Intel. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
[board-discuss] TDF @ End of 2012
Document Foundation. Florian Effenberger has been active inside the OOo project from 2004 to 2010, as infrastructure and then marketing lead, and has been a founder of TDF. During all these years he has put an incredible amount of hours - of his personal time - behind free software, OOo and LibreOffice. >From now on, Florian will devote his working hours to TDF, and will add the usual amount of volunteer hours for his BoD duties (which must be volunteer based, according to our statutes). Florian Effenberger is going to be a tremendous asset for TDF, because he knows perfectly our ecosystem, he is a true free software advocate, and he is knowledgeable not only on administration and infrastructure but also on marketing. Looking at 2013 and beyond, The Document Foundation is ready to face every challenge, and win over the competition not only by providing a better product but also by creating a different and better ecosystem for free office suites. So far, TDF has been an exciting journey, and I am sure that what has happened is just the first chapter of a long and successful history. Best wishes to all of you. Ciao, Italo -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
[board-discuss] Reimbursement for Attending Events
Between September and November 2012 I have attended three events where I have represented TDF with a speech: - OSS 2012 in Hammamet (Tunisia): http://oss2012.org/ - Jesien Linuksowa in Kielce (Poland): http://jesien.org/2012/pl/ - LinuxCon Europe in Barcelona: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/events At LinuxCon Europe I have also met a number of journalists, and I have had an opportunity to update them about the project. I have spent a total of Euro 904,81 for travel, car rental (where it was less expensive than other means of transportation) and hotel. I ask the board to approve a reimbursement for the above amount of money. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
[board-discuss] POSSCON + LibrePlanet
I have been invited to speak at POSSCON in Columbia, SC, on March 27/28, 2013. In order to optimize the cost of the flight, I think it makes sense to attend LibrePlanet in Boston, which is just a few days before (March 23/24), and maybe organize a North America meetup on Monday/Tuesday (March 25/26) somewhere. I ask the board to approve the trip and a provisional budget of 2,000 euro (estimated to cover all expenses) for this trip. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
Re: [board-discuss] Request: approve 523,60 € lawyer fees for drafting a work contract
+1 -- Italo Vignoli Mobile +39.348.5653829 Email italo.vign...@gmail.com On Monday 17 December 2012 at 17:27, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > Le lundi 17 décembre 2012 à 16:08 +, Caolán McNamara a écrit : > > On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 01:57 +0100, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > > > Dear board, > > > > > > we had hired counsel to come up with a suitable work contract to hire > > > Florian. This has concluded, and the aforementioned fees are due, > > > please approve the not-yet-budgeted amount. > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > C. > > +1 > > -- > Charles-H. Schulz > Co-Founder & Director, The Document Foundation, > Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany > Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts > Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint > >
Re: [board-discuss] BoD call during holiday season
On 12/11/12 8:50 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > tomorrow, at 1600 UTC, we have the next BoD call. > Based on our two-week schedule, the subsequent call then would be on > December 26th. Given that this is a public holiday in many countries, I > propose to skip this date, and schedule the next call after tomorrow's > to be on January 9th. > Is everyone fine with this? OK -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
Re: [board-discuss] Request budget for Berlin Foundation Day 2012
> Thorsten Behrens wrote on 2012-11-22 10:49: >> I'd like to request a budget of € 263.90 for booth and travel >> expenses incurred during our presence at Berlin Foundation Day, and >> the KOMPASS award reception the night before, hosted by the German >> Head Association for Foundations. +1 -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
Re: [board-discuss] Re: BoD minutes from 2012-10-16
I completely understand the problem, and we will do our best to help you if the opportunity arises (and given the growth rate this might be absolutely possible). -- Italo Vignoli Mobile +39.348.5653829 Email italo.vign...@gmail.com On Saturday 17 November 2012 at 14:14, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > :-/ reason I asked is im most likely goign to be looking for a job in may and > the Maltese sadly have very wrong mentality in terms of hiring those people > freshly graduated. here they only want people with experience. > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Italo Vignoli (mailto:italo.vign...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > The BoD has already evaluated all scenarios, and the solution of hiring > > Florian Effenberger to handle duties such as infrastructure manager and > > administrative officer is the best we could possibly find. > > > > Because of some administrative tasks with German authorities, you should be > > fluent in German and knowledgeable about German law, in addition to being a > > German citizen living in Germany (this simplifies a large number of tasks > > and interactions with authorities). > > > > -- > > Italo Vignoli > > Mobile +39.348.5653829 (tel:%2B39.348.5653829) > > Email italo.vign...@gmail.com (mailto:italo.vign...@gmail.com) > > > > > > On Saturday 17 November 2012 at 13:47, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > > > > Italo i would take that offer as full time job as infrastructure admin :) > > > question is would that require me to relocate to germany or could I work > > > from here in malta? > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Italo Vignoli > > (mailto:italo.vign...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > You cannot be paid for BoD duties, but you can be paid for other > > > > duties, if the organization can hire someone. > > > > > > > > We need someone for almost full time infrastructure administration, > > > > which is not a BoD duty. > > > > > > > > This has been thoroughly checked by lawyers, and is compliant with > > > > German laws. > > > > > > > > Most free software foundation have a paid professional to handle duties > > > > such as infrastructure and administration, and we have now reached the > > > > stage where we need this kind of support. > > > > > > > > Best, Italo > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Italo Vignoli > > > > Mobile +39.348.5653829 (tel:%2B39.348.5653829) > > > > Email italo.vign...@gmail.com (mailto:italo.vign...@gmail.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday 17 November 2012 at 11:00, Marc Paré wrote: > > > > > > > > > Le 2012-11-15 07:15, Thorsten Behrens a écrit : > > > > > > Request: authorize Thorsten Behrens to hire Florian Effenberger as a > > > > > > part-time employee of TDF for non-board related tasks (e.g. > > > > > > infrastructure work), for up to a year, and at a cost not exceeding > > > > > > EUR 37k per annum. > > > > > > > > > > > > Result of vote: 6 approvals, 1 neutral, 0 disapprovals > > > > > > > > > > > > Decision: the request has been approved. > > > > > > > > > > I am just curious about this. In Canada, I believe a member of any > > > > > non-profit BoD is not allowed to be hired nor be paid any "work" > > > > > related > > > > > remuneration. > > > > > > > > > > Is this different in German law? It seems to be that way. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Marc Paré > > > > > m...@marcpare.com > > > > > http://www.parEntreprise.com > > > > > parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) > > > > > parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jonathan Aquilina > > > > > > -- > Jonathan Aquilina
Re: [board-discuss] Re: BoD minutes from 2012-10-16
The BoD has already evaluated all scenarios, and the solution of hiring Florian Effenberger to handle duties such as infrastructure manager and administrative officer is the best we could possibly find. Because of some administrative tasks with German authorities, you should be fluent in German and knowledgeable about German law, in addition to being a German citizen living in Germany (this simplifies a large number of tasks and interactions with authorities). -- Italo Vignoli Mobile +39.348.5653829 Email italo.vign...@gmail.com On Saturday 17 November 2012 at 13:47, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > Italo i would take that offer as full time job as infrastructure admin :) > question is would that require me to relocate to germany or could I work from > here in malta? > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Italo Vignoli (mailto:italo.vign...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > You cannot be paid for BoD duties, but you can be paid for other duties, if > > the organization can hire someone. > > > > We need someone for almost full time infrastructure administration, which > > is not a BoD duty. > > > > This has been thoroughly checked by lawyers, and is compliant with German > > laws. > > > > Most free software foundation have a paid professional to handle duties > > such as infrastructure and administration, and we have now reached the > > stage where we need this kind of support. > > > > Best, Italo > > > > -- > > Italo Vignoli > > Mobile +39.348.5653829 (tel:%2B39.348.5653829) > > Email italo.vign...@gmail.com (mailto:italo.vign...@gmail.com) > > > > > > On Saturday 17 November 2012 at 11:00, Marc Paré wrote: > > > > > Le 2012-11-15 07:15, Thorsten Behrens a écrit : > > > > Request: authorize Thorsten Behrens to hire Florian Effenberger as a > > > > part-time employee of TDF for non-board related tasks (e.g. > > > > infrastructure work), for up to a year, and at a cost not exceeding > > > > EUR 37k per annum. > > > > > > > > Result of vote: 6 approvals, 1 neutral, 0 disapprovals > > > > > > > > Decision: the request has been approved. > > > > > > I am just curious about this. In Canada, I believe a member of any > > > non-profit BoD is not allowed to be hired nor be paid any "work" related > > > remuneration. > > > > > > Is this different in German law? It seems to be that way. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > -- > > > Marc Paré > > > m...@marcpare.com > > > http://www.parEntreprise.com > > > parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) > > > parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Jonathan Aquilina
Re: [board-discuss] Re: BoD minutes from 2012-10-16
You cannot be paid for BoD duties, but you can be paid for other duties, if the organization can hire someone. We need someone for almost full time infrastructure administration, which is not a BoD duty. This has been thoroughly checked by lawyers, and is compliant with German laws. Most free software foundation have a paid professional to handle duties such as infrastructure and administration, and we have now reached the stage where we need this kind of support. Best, Italo -- Italo Vignoli Mobile +39.348.5653829 Email italo.vign...@gmail.com On Saturday 17 November 2012 at 11:00, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2012-11-15 07:15, Thorsten Behrens a écrit : > > Request: authorize Thorsten Behrens to hire Florian Effenberger as a > > part-time employee of TDF for non-board related tasks (e.g. > > infrastructure work), for up to a year, and at a cost not exceeding > > EUR 37k per annum. > > > > Result of vote: 6 approvals, 1 neutral, 0 disapprovals > > > > Decision: the request has been approved. > > I am just curious about this. In Canada, I believe a member of any > non-profit BoD is not allowed to be hired nor be paid any "work" related > remuneration. > > Is this different in German law? It seems to be that way. > > Cheers, > > Marc > > -- > Marc Paré > m...@marcpare.com > http://www.parEntreprise.com > parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) > parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org > >
Re: [board-discuss] Budget request: EUR 3500 for LibOCon 2012 video / streaming service
+1 Il 26/10/2012 19:05, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto: > +1 > > Charles. > Le 26 oct. 2012 18:25, "Florian Effenberger" > a écrit : > >> +1, it's definitely worth the money >> >> Thorsten Behrens wrote on 2012-10-26 15:17: >> >>> I'd like to get aforementioned budget approved for paying the >>> wonderful folks from Beuth college for their efforts during the >>> LibreOffice conference (filming and streaming), and their ongoing >>> work on post-processing the video footage. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
Re: [board-discuss] daylight savings time
On 10/23/12 1:31 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Shall we reschedule to 1600 UTC, to keep the same local time for most > countries? Yes, please, the later in the day the better for me. 4PM would be far too early. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
Re: [board-discuss] budget for admin meeting in Munich
On 10/5/12 1:38 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > We could sleep at Café Netzwerk at no cost and use their rooms at no > cost as well, but we had expenses mainly for travel. I'd therefore like > the board to approve a budget of 350 € for the admin meeting. +1 -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
Re: [board-discuss] budget for QA meeting in Essen
Il 01/10/2012 09:44, Florian Effenberger ha scritto: > Hello, > > unfortunately, I didn't have a chance to put this up for discussion > earlier. For the QA meeting that took place in Essen last weekend, I'd > like to request a total budget of 1.000 €, payable from SPI funds, > mostly used for travel requests. We probably need less, but to be on the > safe side, I propose that amount as maximum. > > Would the board be willing to grant that? +1 -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
Re: [board-discuss] Request for pre-approval of remimbursement of travel expenses for LiboCon
On 9/19/12 11:13 AM, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > Jean Weber wrote: >> I request pre-approval of reminbursement of AUD 2000 (approx. EUR >> 1600 at today's exchange rate) towards my travel and >> accommodation expenses to attend the LibreOffice Conference in >> Berlin, at which I will be a speaker. >> > +1 +1 -- Italo Vignoli - Director phone +39.348.5653829 - skype italovignoli email italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org The Document Foundation Zimmerstraße 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal Details: www.documentfoundation.org/imprint
Re: [board-discuss] Application: Travel costs for attending the DE-Python-Conference
Il 13/09/2012 11:35, Michael Meeks ha scritto: > > On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 18:25 +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: >> Andreas Mantke wrote: >>> I'll ask for a budget of about 550 Euro for this purpose. >>> >> I support your request. > > +1. +1, Italo -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
