On 2020-07-09 19:54, Nicolas Christener wrote:
Hi all
On Thu, 2020-07-09 at 01:51 +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
[...]
One comment:
- I'd strongly suggest that any new tool we introduce comes with a
commitment to shutdown / discourage at least one (but better more!)
existing tool. We'll ot
Op 18-7-2020 om 22:58 schreef Daniel Armando Rodriguez:
El 2020-07-18 12:01, Telesto escribió:
Decidim allows to enrich spaces for participation through multiple
available components (surveys, proposals, follow-up of results,
comments and several more).
-> True; as - I think I said - no exper
El 2020-07-18 12:01, Telesto escribió:
Decidim allows to enrich spaces for participation through multiple
available components (surveys, proposals, follow-up of results,
comments and several more).
-> True; as - I think I said - no experience with all participation
tools.. Did try decidim quickl
Decidim allows to enrich spaces for participation through multiple
available components (surveys, proposals, follow-up of results, comments
and several more).
-> True; as - I think I said - no experience with all participation
tools.. Did try decidim quickly today. I personally find
https://
El 2020-07-17 15:35, Telesto escribió:
Please don't confuse "making voices heard", which is generally good,
with "offering them a vote", which is generally problematic if they do
not carry any responsibilities upon which their votes might rely and
especially if they are willing to vote for ide
Please don't confuse "making voices heard", which is generally good,
with "offering them a vote", which is generally problematic if they do
not carry any responsibilities upon which their votes might rely and
especially if they are willing to vote for ideas they don't fully
understand on the ba
El 2020-07-17 15:05, Michael Meeks escribió:
On 17/07/2020 18:52, Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote:
Well, misunderstanding of ideas can be avoided simply by communicating
in such a way that no aspect is taken for granted when making the
request for feedback.
I have no problem with tools to get
On 17/07/2020 18:52, Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote:
> Well, misunderstanding of ideas can be avoided simply by communicating
> in such a way that no aspect is taken for granted when making the
> request for feedback.
I have no problem with tools to get polls / feedback from our userbase
El 2020-07-17 15:02, Sophie escribió:
Le 17 juillet 2020 19:32:11 GMT+02:00, Simon Phipps
a écrit :
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 6:19 PM Daniel Armando Rodriguez <
drodrig...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
El 2020-07-17 13:20, Simon Phipps escribió:
> There is also CONSUL, which was developed as o
Le 17 juillet 2020 19:32:11 GMT+02:00, Simon Phipps a écrit
:
>On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 6:19 PM Daniel Armando Rodriguez <
>drodrig...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> El 2020-07-17 13:20, Simon Phipps escribió:
>> > There is also CONSUL, which was developed as open source by Madrid
>City
>>
El 2020-07-17 14:32, Simon Phipps escribió:
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 6:19 PM Daniel Armando Rodriguez
wrote:
El 2020-07-17 13:20, Simon Phipps escribió:
There is also CONSUL, which was developed as open source by Madrid
City
Council, transferred to an independent Foundation and is now used
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 6:19 PM Daniel Armando Rodriguez <
drodrig...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
> El 2020-07-17 13:20, Simon Phipps escribió:
> > There is also CONSUL, which was developed as open source by Madrid City
> > Council, transferred to an independent Foundation and is now used
> > w
El 2020-07-17 13:20, Simon Phipps escribió:
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 5:03 PM Kev M wrote:
There are other participatory democracy software out there that exist
but I don't know many that are Open Source.
There is also CONSUL, which was developed as open source by Madrid City
Council, transf
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 5:03 PM Kev M wrote:
>
> There are other participatory democracy software out there that exist but
> I don't know many that are Open Source.
>
There is also CONSUL, which was developed as open source by Madrid City
Council, transferred to an independent Foundation and is
If democraciaOS is not available/up to date I would suggest investigating
https://www.loomio.org/ - They are open source under the GPL-license.
There are other participatory democracy software out there that exist but I
don't know many that are Open Source.
El 2020-07-17 11:42, Cor Nouws escribió:
Hi Daniel, *,
Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote on 17/07/2020 15:11:
As stated at the meeting, the number of subscribers to the mailing
lists
is significantly low. The user list, for example, has about 1500
subscribers, the Spanish and Brazilian lists have
El 2020-07-17 11:12, Thorsten Behrens escribió:
Hi Franklin, all,
Franklin Weng wrote:
BTW, even if it becomes 15th useless channel, which can be tweaked,
tried and improved from the running experiences, it will not be a
big deal IMO.
Sure, it would create more silos & further fracture the co
Hi Daniel, *,
Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote on 17/07/2020 15:11:
> As stated at the meeting, the number of subscribers to the mailing lists
> is significantly low. The user list, for example, has about 1500
> subscribers, the Spanish and Brazilian lists have about 350 people each.
> TDF has today
Hi Franklin, all,
Franklin Weng wrote:
> BTW, even if it becomes 15th useless channel, which can be tweaked,
> tried and improved from the running experiences, it will not be a
> big deal IMO.
>
Sure, it would create more silos & further fracture the community.
As I said during the board call - t
Agree with Sophie's and Daniel's POV. Civic technology like this has been
proved successful in many countries/areas including Taiwan.
BTW, even if it becomes 15th useless channel, which can be tweaked, tried and
improved from the running experiences, it will not be a big deal IMO.
--
Franklin
As stated at the meeting, the number of subscribers to the mailing lists
is significantly low. The user list, for example, has about 1500
subscribers, the Spanish and Brazilian lists have about 350 people each.
TDF has today 221 members and this list only 160 people. Therefore,
beyond the fact
Hi,
Le 09/07/2020 à 16:03, Daniel Armando Rodriguez a écrit :
> El 2020-07-09 06:05, Ilmari Lauhakangas escribió:
>> Thorsten Behrens kirjoitti 9.7.2020 klo 11.44:
>>> Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
DemocracyOS vs. anything we currently have is an apples to oranges
comparison meaning we *can't
Hi all
On Thu, 2020-07-09 at 01:51 +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
[...]
> One comment:
>
> - I'd strongly suggest that any new tool we introduce comes with a
> commitment to shutdown / discourage at least one (but better more!)
> existing tool. We'll otherwise quickly get to https://xkcd.com/
El 2020-07-09 06:05, Ilmari Lauhakangas escribió:
Thorsten Behrens kirjoitti 9.7.2020 klo 11.44:
Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
DemocracyOS vs. anything we currently have is an apples to oranges
comparison meaning we *can't* shut anything down.
But how would DemocracyOS then help to solve the too-m
Thorsten Behrens kirjoitti 9.7.2020 klo 11.44:
Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
DemocracyOS vs. anything we currently have is an apples to oranges
comparison meaning we *can't* shut anything down.
But how would DemocracyOS then help to solve the too-many-channels problem?
In my view it would not he
Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> DemocracyOS vs. anything we currently have is an apples to oranges
> comparison meaning we *can't* shut anything down.
>
But how would DemocracyOS then help to solve the too-many-channels problem?
Cheers,
-- Thorsten
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Thorsten Behrens kirjoitti 9.7.2020 klo 2.51:
Hi Daniel,
[sry for the repetition, missed this public mail initially]
Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote:
In my opinion, and based on recent experience, I consider it necessary for
TDF to be open to community participation in a more modern and accessi
Hi Daniel,
[sry for the repetition, missed this public mail initially]
Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote:
> In my opinion, and based on recent experience, I consider it necessary for
> TDF to be open to community participation in a more modern and accessible
> way to everyone.
>
I agree. The recent
In my opinion, and based on recent experience, I consider it necessary
for TDF to be open to community participation in a more modern and
accessible way to everyone.
In this sense, it is clear that the use of mailing lists, IRC/Telegram
channels does not allow to reach the majority of LibreOff
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