Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-08-08 Thread Brett Cornwall
On 2020-07-09 19:54, Nicolas Christener wrote: Hi all On Thu, 2020-07-09 at 01:51 +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: [...] One comment: - I'd strongly suggest that any new tool we introduce comes with a commitment to shutdown / discourage at least one (but better more!) existing tool. We'll

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-18 Thread Telesto
Op 18-7-2020 om 22:58 schreef Daniel Armando Rodriguez: El 2020-07-18 12:01, Telesto escribió: Decidim allows to enrich spaces for participation through multiple available components (surveys, proposals, follow-up of results, comments and several more). -> True; as - I think I said - no

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-18 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-07-18 12:01, Telesto escribió: Decidim allows to enrich spaces for participation through multiple available components (surveys, proposals, follow-up of results, comments and several more). -> True; as - I think I said - no experience with all participation tools.. Did try decidim

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-18 Thread Telesto
Decidim allows to enrich spaces for participation through multiple available components (surveys, proposals, follow-up of results, comments and several more). -> True; as - I think I said - no experience with all participation tools.. Did try decidim quickly today.  I personally find

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-18 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-07-17 15:35, Telesto escribió: Please don't confuse "making voices heard", which is generally good, with "offering them a vote", which is generally problematic if they do not carry any responsibilities upon which their votes might rely and especially if they are willing to vote for

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Telesto
Please don't confuse "making voices heard", which is generally good, with "offering them a vote", which is generally problematic if they do not carry any responsibilities upon which their votes might rely and especially if they are willing to vote for ideas they don't fully understand on the

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-07-17 15:05, Michael Meeks escribió: On 17/07/2020 18:52, Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote: Well, misunderstanding of ideas can be avoided simply by communicating in such a way that no aspect is taken for granted when making the request for feedback. I have no problem with tools to get

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Michael Meeks
On 17/07/2020 18:52, Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote: > Well, misunderstanding of ideas can be avoided simply by communicating > in such a way that no aspect is taken for granted when making the > request for feedback. I have no problem with tools to get polls / feedback from our

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-07-17 15:02, Sophie escribió: Le 17 juillet 2020 19:32:11 GMT+02:00, Simon Phipps a écrit : On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 6:19 PM Daniel Armando Rodriguez < drodrig...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: El 2020-07-17 13:20, Simon Phipps escribió: > There is also CONSUL, which was developed as

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Sophie
Le 17 juillet 2020 19:32:11 GMT+02:00, Simon Phipps a écrit : >On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 6:19 PM Daniel Armando Rodriguez < >drodrig...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > >> El 2020-07-17 13:20, Simon Phipps escribió: >> > There is also CONSUL, which was developed as open source by Madrid >City

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-07-17 14:32, Simon Phipps escribió: On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 6:19 PM Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote: El 2020-07-17 13:20, Simon Phipps escribió: There is also CONSUL, which was developed as open source by Madrid City Council, transferred to an independent Foundation and is now used

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Simon Phipps
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 6:19 PM Daniel Armando Rodriguez < drodrig...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > El 2020-07-17 13:20, Simon Phipps escribió: > > There is also CONSUL, which was developed as open source by Madrid City > > Council, transferred to an independent Foundation and is now used > >

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-07-17 13:20, Simon Phipps escribió: On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 5:03 PM Kev M wrote: There are other participatory democracy software out there that exist but I don't know many that are Open Source. There is also CONSUL, which was developed as open source by Madrid City Council,

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Simon Phipps
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 5:03 PM Kev M wrote: > > There are other participatory democracy software out there that exist but > I don't know many that are Open Source. > There is also CONSUL, which was developed as open source by Madrid City Council, transferred to an independent Foundation and is

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Kev M
If democraciaOS is not available/up to date I would suggest investigating https://www.loomio.org/ - They are open source under the GPL-license. There are other participatory democracy software out there that exist but I don't know many that are Open Source.

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-07-17 11:42, Cor Nouws escribió: Hi Daniel, *, Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote on 17/07/2020 15:11: As stated at the meeting, the number of subscribers to the mailing lists is significantly low. The user list, for example, has about 1500 subscribers, the Spanish and Brazilian lists

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-07-17 11:12, Thorsten Behrens escribió: Hi Franklin, all, Franklin Weng wrote: BTW, even if it becomes 15th useless channel, which can be tweaked, tried and improved from the running experiences, it will not be a big deal IMO. Sure, it would create more silos & further fracture the

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Daniel, *, Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote on 17/07/2020 15:11: > As stated at the meeting, the number of subscribers to the mailing lists > is significantly low. The user list, for example, has about 1500 > subscribers, the Spanish and Brazilian lists have about 350 people each. > TDF has

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Franklin, all, Franklin Weng wrote: > BTW, even if it becomes 15th useless channel, which can be tweaked, > tried and improved from the running experiences, it will not be a > big deal IMO. > Sure, it would create more silos & further fracture the community. As I said during the board call -

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
As stated at the meeting, the number of subscribers to the mailing lists is significantly low. The user list, for example, has about 1500 subscribers, the Spanish and Brazilian lists have about 350 people each. TDF has today 221 members and this list only 160 people. Therefore, beyond the fact

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-17 Thread sophi
Hi, Le 09/07/2020 à 16:03, Daniel Armando Rodriguez a écrit : > El 2020-07-09 06:05, Ilmari Lauhakangas escribió: >> Thorsten Behrens kirjoitti 9.7.2020 klo 11.44: >>> Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: DemocracyOS vs. anything we currently have is an apples to oranges comparison meaning we

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-09 Thread Nicolas Christener
Hi all On Thu, 2020-07-09 at 01:51 +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: [...] > One comment: > > - I'd strongly suggest that any new tool we introduce comes with a > commitment to shutdown / discourage at least one (but better more!) > existing tool. We'll otherwise quickly get to

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-09 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-07-09 06:05, Ilmari Lauhakangas escribió: Thorsten Behrens kirjoitti 9.7.2020 klo 11.44: Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: DemocracyOS vs. anything we currently have is an apples to oranges comparison meaning we *can't* shut anything down. But how would DemocracyOS then help to solve the

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-09 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas
Thorsten Behrens kirjoitti 9.7.2020 klo 11.44: Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: DemocracyOS vs. anything we currently have is an apples to oranges comparison meaning we *can't* shut anything down. But how would DemocracyOS then help to solve the too-many-channels problem? In my view it would not

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-09 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: > DemocracyOS vs. anything we currently have is an apples to oranges > comparison meaning we *can't* shut anything down. > But how would DemocracyOS then help to solve the too-many-channels problem? Cheers, -- Thorsten signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-09 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas
Thorsten Behrens kirjoitti 9.7.2020 klo 2.51: Hi Daniel, [sry for the repetition, missed this public mail initially] Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote: In my opinion, and based on recent experience, I consider it necessary for TDF to be open to community participation in a more modern and

Re: [board-discuss] Initiative to improve communication channels

2020-07-08 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Daniel, [sry for the repetition, missed this public mail initially] Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote: > In my opinion, and based on recent experience, I consider it necessary for > TDF to be open to community participation in a more modern and accessible > way to everyone. > I agree. The