[boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread McLeod, John
OK, High Priority made it sound like it was running at High OS Scheduler Priority, but some tag that it is not in the normal RR schedule might be good for helping diagnose problems. ___ boinc_dev mailing list boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread Richard Haselgrove
The removal followed a question and answer session at the BOINC workshop in Budapest earlier this week. The OS scheduler mis-interpretation was one that I highlighted, but there was also a problem with users thinking that High Priority was a project-chosen queue-jumping facility. I think we're

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread Jacob Klein
I'd like to see Prioritized to meet deadline in the UI, next to Running. From: Richard Haselgrovemailto:r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com Sent: ‎10/‎3/‎2014 9:19 AM To: McLeod, Johnmailto:john.mcl...@sap.com; boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edumailto:boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread McLeod, John
This sounds good. To the point and lets the user know why it is running out of order. From: Jacob Klein [mailto:jacob_w_kl...@msn.com] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 9:24 AM To: Richard Haselgrove; McLeod, John; boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu Subject: RE: [boinc_dev] High priority status message

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread Jord van der Elst
Task xx_yy_zz running as preference, trying to meet the deadline. Task xx_yy_zz running in precedence, trying to meet the deadline. Seeing how we do want to tell that it's a status in order of importance or urgency, we may want to go for the second one. -- Jord van der Elst. On Fri, Oct 3,

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread Jord van der Elst
Ah, and mine are easily translatable... at least in Dutch. ;-) -- Jord van der Elst. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Jord van der Elst els...@gmail.com wrote: Task xx_yy_zz running as preference, trying to meet the deadline. Task xx_yy_zz running in precedence, trying to meet the deadline.

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread McLeod, John
Neither preference nor precedence has the quite right meaning in English though. -Original Message- From: boinc_dev [mailto:boinc_dev-boun...@ssl.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jord van der Elst Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 11:53 AM To: David Anderson Cc: BOINC Dev Mailing List Subject:

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread Jord van der Elst
Priority: a thing that is regarded as more important than another. or: the fact or condition of being regarded or treated as more important. or: the right to take precedence or to proceed before others. ** --- Precedence: the condition of being considered more important than someone or something

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread McLeod, John
I know the dictionary meanings. Precedence tends to carry a connotation of permanent. Preference t (in computers at least) tends to mean settable by the user. -Original Message- From: Jord van der Elst [mailto:els...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 12:10 PM To: McLeod, John

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread Jacob Klein
I still would like to see Prioritized to meet deadline in the UI, next to Running, despite David's logic against it. The user's interpretations are not something we can control. Providing the feedback, using as meaningful description as possible, is something we can control. And I haven't heard

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread Jord van der Elst
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:13 PM, McLeod, John john.mcl...@sap.com wrote: I know the dictionary meanings. Precedence tends to carry a connotation of permanent. From BOINC's point of view, it runs these tasks before anything else, preferably until BOINC calculates that they can meet their

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread Richard Haselgrove
Some permutation of 'deadline', 'risk', 'miss' ? (At) risk of deadline miss ? Risk of missing deadline ? From: Jord van der Elst els...@gmail.com To: McLeod, John john.mcl...@sap.com Cc: BOINC Dev Mailing List boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu Sent: Friday, October

[boinc_dev] Compile issue: No rule to make target `md5.c', needed by `libboinc_la-md5.lo'

2014-10-03 Thread yoyo
Hello, I updated to latest boinc server source version with: git pull ./_autosetup ./configure --disable-client --disable-manager make clean make and get this error: if /bin/bash ../libtool --tag=CXX --mode=compile /usr/bin/g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../api -I../db

Re: [boinc_dev] Compile issue: No rule to make target `md5.c', needed by `libboinc_la-md5.lo'

2014-10-03 Thread Eric J Korpela
This is because of old dependencies generated by automake. The change in filename of md5.c doesn't change any existing dependencies files. The solution is to make distclean then do a full _autosetup, configure, make cycle. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:42 AM, yoyo y...@mailueberfall.de wrote:

Re: [boinc_dev] Compile issue: No rule to make target `md5.c', needed by `libboinc_la-md5.lo'

2014-10-03 Thread yoyo
Thanks, it worked. Eric J Korpela schrieb: This is because of old dependencies generated by automake. The change in filename of md5.c doesn't change any existing dependencies files. The solution is to make distclean then do a full _autosetup, configure, make cycle. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread Juha
Skipping queue to meet deadline ? -Juha On 3 October 2014 19:15, Jacob Klein jacob_w_kl...@msn.com wrote: I still would like to see Prioritized to meet deadline in the UI, next to Running, despite David's logic against it. The user's interpretations are not something we can control.

[boinc_dev] Team description as spam

2014-10-03 Thread yoyo
Hello, on my project team descriptions are used as spam. (e.g. http://yafu.myfirewall.org/yafu/top_teams.php?type=5) I think we would need an option in delete_spammers.php to delete them also. kind regards, yoyo ___ boinc_dev mailing list

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread McLeod, John
That misses the detail that the time is borrowed, and will be paid back. Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com) -Original Message- From: Juha [juha.sointus...@gmail.com] Received: Friday, 03 Oct 2014, 2:22PM To: BOINC Development [boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu]

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread Richard Haselgrove
I don't think we'll ever have space to fit all that in, until we implement tooltip technology in BOINC Manager for full information boxes, rather than just completing truncated cells. From: McLeod, John john.mcl...@sap.com To: boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu

[boinc_dev] Boinc client certificate verification failure

2014-10-03 Thread Bill Flynn
Hi, My web server's CA (GoDaddy) isn't trusted by the boinc client. When requesting https://example.domain.com/project/get_project_config.php the request fails with: [http] [ID #1] Info: Trying xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx... [http] [ID #1] Info: Connected to example.domain.com (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) port 443

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread Juha
Well, yes. You suggested earlier Borrowing time to make deadline. If I had not read this thread and if Manager said something like that to me, I think my initial reaction would be It does what?. -Juha On 3 October 2014 21:44, McLeod, John john.mcl...@sap.com wrote: That misses the detail

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread Jord van der Elst
Simplest and very truthfully is of course: Running, trying to meet deadline. Does that really need an explanation of borrowing time, running ahead of the pack, skipping queue, take precedence, risk at missing or high priority? -- Jord van der Elst. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Juha

Re: [boinc_dev] Windows 7 Boinc client service fails to run wrapper successfully

2014-10-03 Thread Bill Flynn
Hi Dave, We think the problem actually stems from the sandboxed permissions of boinc_project and boinc_master when Boinc is installed as a service on Windows. Doing net localgroup administrators neither boinc_master nor boinc_project were listed. So we added net localgroup administrators

Re: [boinc_dev] Windows 7 Boinc client service fails to run wrapper successfully

2014-10-03 Thread Bill Flynn
Sorry, I was away and disabled email delivery. This is my response in context. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Bill Flynn wfly...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dave, We think the problem actually stems from the sandboxed permissions of boinc_project and boinc_master when Boinc is installed as a

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread Jacob Klein
All of the running tasks are Running, trying to meet deadline. But only some are Running, prioritized to meet deadline :) From: Jord van der Elstmailto:els...@gmail.com Sent: ‎10/‎3/‎2014 3:18 PM Cc: boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edumailto:boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu

Re: [boinc_dev] Boinc client certificate verification failure

2014-10-03 Thread Bill Flynn
Actually I solved this. I downloaded the GoDaddy ca-bundle and appended its contents to C:\Program Files\BOINC\ca-bundle.crt. That cleared up the issue. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Bill Flynn wfly...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, My web server's CA (GoDaddy) isn't trusted by the boinc client.

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread Charles Elliott
On my computer, which is allocated about 300 AP WUs at a time, in late September Boinc was running AP WUs due in late October. Then when October 1 came it seemingly panicked and stopped doing anything but processing AP WUs due October 17. That behavior was useful when we could download

Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed.

2014-10-03 Thread McLeod, John
You can still easily get into deadline trouble with either large queues, or multiple projects and an occasional tight deadline. Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com) -Original Message- From: Charles Elliott [elliott...@comcast.net] Received: Friday, 03 Oct 2014,

Re: [boinc_dev] Boinc client certificate verification failure

2014-10-03 Thread Rom Walton
That pretty much just solves the problem for your machine. It won't solve the problem for the volunteers. See: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/SecureHttp Apache needs to know about the intermediate chain file that links your ssl cert with the CA’s root certificate. - Rom