I've updated the wrapper wiki page to point to 26011 of the wrapper which
should resolve this issue.
See:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/WrapperApp
-- Rom
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From: Bill Flynn
Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 9:23 PM
To: BOINC Dev Mailing List
You can still easily get into deadline trouble with either large queues,
or multiple projects and an occasional tight deadline
Proof?
From: McLeod, John [mailto:john.mcl...@sap.com]
Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 10:54 PM
To: jacob_w_kl...@msn.com; r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com;
Just observe. I'm currently running two SIMAP tasks which were issued with a
two-day deadline (additional replications required for validation - they must
be using
reliable_reduced_delay_boundX/reliable_reduced_delay_bound
When a need-reliable result is sent to a reliable host, multiply the
That is one I had forgotten about. BOINC is probably correct in running these
in EDF as there is likely to be a bit more than 2 days of work on that machine,
and if they waited their turn, they would be returned late.
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And a user might want to know why such tasks are running ahead of other tasks
that would otherwise have been chosen to run.
I have a new proposal... which expresses the urgency, expresses the reasoning,
and doesn't use priority.
David: What do you think of:
Running immediately to meet deadline
Set a two day queue, and BOINC panics.
Use the words that the users are already using.
“Panic Mode”. It’s concise, easily understandable, no confusion with system
priority, and is the term BOINC users have been using for years to describe it
on all the forums.
On Oct 4, 2014, at 5:48
There are actually 2 exceptions to round-robin:
- jobs that would miss their deadline in round-robin
- jobs that haven't checkpointed
The question is whether we should show this info in the GUI.
My inclination is to show it in the event log rather than the GUI.
However we express it in the GUI,
Panic is a word that we really do not want to use. When you panic, you stop
thinking...
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From: Erik Veit [zombi...@mac.com]
Received: Saturday, 04 Oct 2014, 10:26AM
To: boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu
The debug messages tend to be a bit cryptoc, and most users never turn them on.
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-Original Message-
From: David Anderson [da...@ssl.berkeley.edu]
Received: Saturday, 04 Oct 2014, 11:02AM
To: Jacob Klein
For a better design, the BOINC client needs to inform the server of the
models
and capabilities, of each GPU, and possibly have the scheduler
indicate which tasks can run on which GPUs.
It is not clear that Boinc actually knows the correct video card
capabilities. One of my computers has
But that’s exactly what BOINC *is* doing. It’s stopped thinking, and is no
longer considering all the normal scheduling rules. It’s scheduling on pure
fear (panic) of a missed deadline.
On Oct 4, 2014, at 8:04 AM, McLeod, John john.mcl...@sap.com wrote:
Panic is a word that we really do
Also remember that missed deadlines may mean that the work does not count.
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-Original Message-
From: Erik Veit [zombi...@mac.com]
Received: Saturday, 04 Oct 2014, 11:38AM
To: McLeod, John [john.mcl...@sap.com]
CC:
No. After conidrrstion, BOINC has decided that particles task needs to get some
extra time now to avoid missing a deadline later.
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-Original Message-
From: Erik Veit [zombi...@mac.com]
Received: Saturday, 04 Oct 2014, 11:38AM
You just said the same thing I did, but with different words.
My point is that we should be using the terms people are already familiar with,
and not getting all tangled up with creating new terms that mean roughly the
same thing. , creating even more confusion.
Also, we shouldn’t be hiding
BOINC may be running tasks out of round robin order, but it is not panicking.
Panic has the connotation of inconsidered fright. That is not what BOINC is
doing. BOINC is considering the situa t ion and making a decision based on the
best available knowledge. This is not panicking.
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