Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs)

2015-10-06 Thread McLeod, John
Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs) One IP address can represent many machines if they are behind a NAT device. Now that North America has run out of IP addresses to be assigned, I expect carrier grade NATs will be used by more ISPs than in the past. IP addresse

Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs)

2015-09-28 Thread Tristan Olive
On Mon 28 Sep 2015 01:16:35 PM EDT, Rom Walton wrote: > > Originally I envisioned this as something interjected between steps 1 > and 2, when the browser window is closed, it passes the GUID to the > lookup account phase and proceeds based on success or failure. What > your proposing is to push

Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs)

2015-09-28 Thread Rom Walton
gt;; Hugh Wormington <h...@gridrepublic.org> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs) On Mon 28 Sep 2015 01:16:35 PM EDT, Rom Walton wrote: > > Originally I envisioned this as something interjected between steps 1 > and 2, when the browser window is closed, it passes

Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs)

2015-09-28 Thread Rom Walton
Mailing List <boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs) 1) In the case of Progres Thru Processors the login is Facebook's, which they know. PTP links that through to the GR/BOINC user in the background. Apologies for not making that c

Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs)

2015-09-28 Thread Tristan Olive
On Mon 28 Sep 2015 01:25:55 PM EDT, Rom Walton wrote: > Violation of basic computational rights? > > I'm not sure the filename approach is really all that far out there. > > Microsoft uses it for Office 2016 deployments. Their new installer > process does something similar to what we are trying to

Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs)

2015-09-28 Thread Rom Walton
Developers Mailing List <boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu>; Matthew Blumberg <m...@gridrepublic.org> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs) I agree that an IP cannot be expected to be a reliable, unique identifier, even short term. However, I also think t

Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs)

2015-09-28 Thread Rom Walton
: Filip Rydlo [mailto:filip.ry...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 3:49 AM To: Rom Walton <r...@romwnet.org> Cc: BOINC-dev email list <boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs) Yes, Rom. It really seems li

Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs)

2015-09-28 Thread Rom Walton
To: Rom Walton <r...@romwnet.org> Cc: Hugh Wormington <h...@gridrepublic.org>; Matthew Blumberg <m...@gridrepublic.org>; Rytis Slatkevičius <ry...@gridrepublic.org>; BOINC Developers Mailing List <boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple At

Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs)

2015-09-28 Thread Filip Rydlo
h > Wormington > Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 5:22 PM > To: Rom Walton <r...@romwnet.org> > Cc: Matthew Blumberg <m...@gridrepublic.org>; Hugh Wormington < > h...@gridrepublic.org>; Rytis Slatkevičius <ry...@gridrepublic.org>; > BOINC Developers Mailing

Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs)

2015-09-28 Thread Hugh Wormington
* Sunday, September 27, 2015 5:22 PM > *To:* Rom Walton <r...@romwnet.org> > *Cc:* Matthew Blumberg <m...@gridrepublic.org>; Hugh Wormington < > h...@gridrepublic.org>; Rytis Slatkevičius <ry...@gridrepublic.org>; > BOINC Developers Mailing List <boinc_d

Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs)

2015-09-27 Thread Hugh Wormington
dor.net [mailto:mblumb...@picador.net] *On Behalf > Of *Matthew Blumberg > *Sent:* Friday, September 25, 2015 6:27 PM > *To:* Rom Walton <r...@romwnet.org> > *Cc:* Hugh Wormington <h...@gridrepublic.org>; Rytis Slatkevičius < > ry...@gridrepublic.org>; BOINC Develo

Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs)

2015-09-27 Thread Rom Walton
ic.org>>; Rytis Slatkevičius <ry...@gridrepublic.org<mailto:ry...@gridrepublic.org>>; BOINC Developers Mailing List <boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu<mailto:boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu>> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs) So for G

Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs)

2015-09-25 Thread Rom Walton
g List <boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs) So for GR/CE/PTP you end up with filenames like: gr_setup_asc_ODU0NjVfZWEwYWJkNjc4NDc2MjllMWFlOWVkM2I4YWRmZmZmZmY=.exe i'm really not comfortable with filenames like that for AMS, is it po

Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs)

2015-09-25 Thread Rytis Slatkevičius
Is there really a need for such schemes? A script will be running to generate the download filenames (I assume at boinc.berkeley.edu); why not store user's temporary metadata on the server instead of passing it through the installer filename, and look it up based on the IP address? There are not

Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs)

2015-09-25 Thread David Anderson
That scheme sounds plausible, but it seems more complex than what Rom proposed. -- D On 9/24/2015 11:48 PM, Rytis Slatkevičius wrote: Is there really a need for such schemes? A script will be running to generate the download filenames (I assume at boinc.berkeley.edu); why not store user's

Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs)

2015-09-25 Thread Rom Walton
- From: boinc_dev [mailto:boinc_dev-boun...@ssl.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Christian Beer Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:40 AM To: boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs) What Rytis suggests sounds good but relies on the availability

Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs)

2015-09-25 Thread Rom Walton
Developers Mailing List <boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu>; Tristan Olive <tol...@gridrepublic.org>; Hugh Wormington <h...@gridrepublic.org> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs) Further to Rytis's email (is this the place to continue this discussion or in Ji

Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs)

2015-09-25 Thread Rom Walton
eley.edu> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] Proposal: Simple Attach (Cookieless Installs) In essence this is what the setup cookie is for. In cases where there is a customized installer, everything the client needs will be in the project_init.xml or acct_mgr_url.xml (in the case of account managers) files. BO