Re: W's_sneak_vote_on_Vouchers_during_presidential_debate_passes_by_1_vote_ while_3_democrat_opponents_were_at_debate

2003-09-21 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 12:36 AM 9/21/2003 -0400, you wrote: a question which arises after reading the article is why there are apparently not any private schools available which emphasize that their academic standards are superior to those of the failing public schools but which are not associated with any

Re: W's_sneak_vote_on_Vouchers_during_presidential_debate_passes_by_1_vote_ while_3_democrat_opponents_were_at_debate

2003-09-21 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:01 AM 9/21/03 -0400, Kevin Tarr wrote: At 12:36 AM 9/21/2003 -0400, you wrote: a question which arises after reading the article is why there are apparently not any private schools available which emphasize that their academic standards are superior to those of the failing public schools

Re: Girls more confident of success

2003-09-21 Thread Kevin Tarr
I don't want this to be self serving as it may read. It's just I will always wonder what happened to me. I know when I was young, I never learned to tie my shoes until late, I'd guess at least seven or eight. In third grade we had modules that we did individually but it was secret in a way.

Re: Girls more confident of success

2003-09-21 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:14 AM 9/21/03 -0400, Kevin Tarr wrote: We are getting Object Oriented COBOL soon. Isn't that sort of an oxymoron, like attaching a jet engine to a covered wagon? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Girls more confident of success

2003-09-21 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 01:25 AM 9/21/2003 -0500, you wrote: At 02:14 AM 9/21/03 -0400, Kevin Tarr wrote: We are getting Object Oriented COBOL soon. Isn't that sort of an oxymoron, like attaching a jet engine to a covered wagon? -- Ronn! :) I cannot say. Here's what I've been told: we always have vendors

Re: Girls more confident of success

2003-09-21 Thread Erik Reuter
I'm reading all these anecdotes about bad teachers without identifying very well. Through most of high school and all of college, I found the teachers to be mostly irrelevant. I prefer learning from textbooks. After all, you don't have much of a pool to choose your teacher from, but generally only

Re: Derivation vs. Memorization

2003-09-21 Thread David Hobby
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Who somehow did memorize the quadratic formula... Can you derive it? Trivial. I ddn't memorize Cardano's formula, but I can derive it easily: eliminate term in x^2, x = u + v then eliminate term with uv. He did say quadratic,

Fan Fic Uploads

2003-09-21 Thread Steve Sloan II
Over the last few days, I've been uploading some of Vilyehm's fan fic to a special section of my web page: http://stories.brin-l.org Here are direct links to the stories V's sent me so far, in order of publishing: Between a Grok and a Hard Pace:

Re: Girls more confident of success

2003-09-21 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love the idea of OO but I just cannot grasp it fully, yet. Luckily we don't need it, it's just part of the latest version. GROAN = _ Jan William Coffey

Added Hoon's Fur Past. Oops.

2003-09-21 Thread Steve Sloan II
I've been behind on reading list mail, so I just saw the additional fanfic story that V posted to the list. It's now sitting on my site at: http://stories.brin-l.org/hoonfurpast.html As usual, the main fanfic page is at: http://stories.brin-l.org/

No baby?

2003-09-21 Thread Horn, John
I was sure I'd check my mail this evening and see that Julia had gone off to the hospital. I was absolutely positive. I guess I was wrong. Oh well, keep waiting... - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

My sanity questioned

2003-09-21 Thread Julia Thompson
Awhile back, I found a magazine of puzzles in the grocery store and bought it. You're given a crossword-puzzle-grid, a list of numbers grouped by the number of digits in each one and then sorted in numerical order, and one number placed in the grid. You then try to logically figure out where

Re: My sanity questioned

2003-09-21 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 9/21/2003 3:55:26 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, am I nuts? Or just really, really weird? Julia I like doing logic problems in pen. William Taylor P.S. Your twins may be geniuses. They're waiting for the Emmy

Re: My sanity questioned

2003-09-21 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 05:55 PM 9/21/2003 -0500, you wrote: Awhile back, I found a magazine of puzzles in the grocery store and bought it. You're given a crossword-puzzle-grid, a list of numbers grouped by the number of digits in each one and then sorted in numerical order, and one number placed in the grid. You

Re: memorization vs. idea space position

2003-09-21 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 3:41 PM Subject: Re: memorization vs. idea space position Dan wrote: As Doug has pointed out, language is a system. I like to think of the metaphor of idea space

Re: My sanity questioned

2003-09-21 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. Your twins may be geniuses. They're waiting for the Emmy Awards. I know I'd do anything to get out of watching another awards show. We have cable. There's a football game on ESPN in about 45 minutes. (Kickoff will probably be more like an hour off.) I

Re: Week 3 NFL Picks

2003-09-21 Thread Julia Thompson
John D. Giorgis wrote: With Hurricane Isaebl bearing down on Washington DC, I am getting my picks in early this week, in case the power is out for a while.Of course, after last week's dismal performance, maybe a little shake-up is just what I needed. I was an abysmal 5-11 last week,

Re: Week 3 NFL Picks

2003-09-21 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 9/21/2003 4:56:27 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Green Bay at ARIZONA -Time to break out all the classic futility jokes about the Cardinals. Pick: PACKERS Knock me over with a feather, that pick was wrong! I could *not* believe the score

Re: Girls more confident of success...in an empathicaly focused world

2003-09-21 Thread Kanandarqu
Jan wrote- What about an education system and workplace that are now more focused on empathic and rote memorization ability than on problem solving ability? While I am not the most up to date on teaching methods, the only large scale changes I can recall that have impacted the majority of

Re: Girls more confident of success

2003-09-21 Thread Kanandarqu
Jan asked- Does it mean that women, unlike men forgo carriers to rais families? Actually, some of the current literature says that women most usually must make a choice between career and family. Societal pressures usually favor the raise family option. Women who try and do both usually have

Re: Week 3 NFL Picks

2003-09-21 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/21/2003 4:56:27 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Green Bay at ARIZONA -Time to break out all the classic futility jokes about the Cardinals. Pick: PACKERS Knock me over with a feather, that pick was wrong! I

Re: Equal rights opportunity or numbers?

2003-09-21 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 7:38 PM Subject: Re: Equal rights opportunity or numbers? I agree with you. I just brought that up because it's the situation that must be

Re: Girls more confident of success...in an empathicaly focused world

2003-09-21 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 11:53 AM Subject: Re: Girls more confident of success...in an empathically focused world Strange it always seems to me that these same people are setting

Re: Girls more confident of success

2003-09-21 Thread Kanandarqu
Jan wrote- I am suggesting that education should be tailored to the individual to use and highlight that individuals strengths. We do this anyway (FREX exempting Dyslexics from forign language requirments). Each individual should be allowed to find the nich in which they can best contribute to

Re: Equal rights opportunity or numbers?

2003-09-21 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 09:05:09PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: To me, it is obvious that the company decided to get rid of its oldest engineers. The pension liability they would have if they allowed these workers to work till they were 65 was the most likely reason for this action. Another

Re: Equal rights opportunity or numbers?

2003-09-21 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 9:21 PM Subject: Re: Equal rights opportunity or numbers? On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 09:05:09PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: To me, it is obvious that the

Re: memorization vs. idea space position

2003-09-21 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I'm rather skeptical of people who say they have a great idea that they just cannot communicate to anyone. But, lets just suppose that there is someone who has come up with a conceptualization of a grand unified theory that they cannot

Re: memorization vs. idea space position

2003-09-21 Thread David Hobby
... Thinking some more about it, it seems that new forms of math are as likely a candidate as any for ideas that cannot be expressed symbolically. But, I've never heard of a mathematical system who's rules exist, but cannot be described in terms of things already know to other mathematicians.

Re: No baby?

2003-09-21 Thread David Hobby
I'd like to have this over with, because it gets kind of tedious keeping track of the time of the last N contractions. Of course, in general, they've been in clusters where they're roughly an hour apart. 12-15 minutes apart is when we head out. The closest 2 were 25 minutes apart, and

Re: Girls more confident of success...in an empathicaly focused world

2003-09-21 Thread Jan Coffey
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How would you measure efficient? Worker productivity has reached higher and higher levels since Women's Lib, wouldn't this seem to support progress overall? I have no way to counter most of what you have questioned. However, I do know that the produtivity

Re: Equal rights opportunity or numbers?

2003-09-21 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 7:38 PM Subject: Re: Equal rights opportunity or numbers? I agree with you. I just brought

Re: Girls more confident of success...in an empathicaly focused world

2003-09-21 Thread Kanandarqu
Jan asked relating to the best person for the job- The best person for plesant interaction, or the best person for achieving technical results? LOL, I wear cracked, taped together, hanging by a thread rose colored glasses. In my world I can have both. In reality, sometimes I get a bit of

Re: Equal rights opportunity or numbers?

2003-09-21 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:11 PM Subject: Re: Equal rights opportunity or numbers? Dan, why can't we all agree that it was wrong, and accept that quanifying the wrongness is

Re: My sanity questioned

2003-09-21 Thread David Hobby
You're given a crossword-puzzle-grid, a list of numbers grouped by the number of digits in each one and then sorted in numerical order, and one number placed in the grid. You then try to logically figure out where each of the rest of the numbers fit in the grid. ... So, am I nuts? Or just

Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them

2003-09-21 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0525947647/qid=1064201122/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/102-7196545-4354567 I just finished reading this today. What a hoot! xponent A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right Maru rob ___

Re: Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them

2003-09-21 Thread TomFODW
I just finished reading this today. What a hoot! I thought it was wonderful. I'd also strongly recommend Paul Krugman's new The Great Unraveling, and Big Lies by Joe Conason. Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I

Re: Girls more confident of success...in an empathicaly focused world

2003-09-21 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:05 PM Subject: Re: Girls more confident of success...in an empathicaly focused world --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How would you measure efficient?

Re: Girls more confident of success...in an empathicaly focused world

2003-09-21 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:49 PM Subject: Re: Girls more confident of success...in an empathicaly focused world The average yearly growth in productivity per hour worked

Re: No baby?

2003-09-21 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 5:51 PM Subject: Re: No baby? Horn, John wrote: I was sure I'd check my mail this evening and see that Julia had gone off to the hospital. I

Re: Girls more confident of success...in an empathicaly focused world

2003-09-21 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 11:53 AM Subject: Re: Girls more confident of success...in an empathically focused world Strange it

Re: Girls more confident of success...in an empathicaly focused world

2003-09-21 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bla bla bla The best person for plesant interaction, or the best person for achieving technical results? Out of curiosity, in your world view, does everyone work all by themselves and then everything falls into place at the end? How do you work

Re: Girls more confident of success...in an empathicaly focused world

2003-09-21 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:49 PM Subject: Re: Girls more confident of success...in an empathicaly focused world The average

Re: Girls more confident of success...in an empathicaly focused world

2003-09-21 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 11:12 PM Subject: Re: Girls more confident of success...in an empathicaly focused world --- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original