Re: "God Is With Us" L3

--- Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:44 AM, Gautam Mukunda wrote: > Yes, interpretation of historical events is at least > partly objective. > Given that I can see how some things that might be > clear to me may not > be to others. Or, alternately, why things yo

Re: Fascist Censorship Spreads: New Line Cuts God from Film

On Dec 12, 2004, at 10:35 PM, The Fool wrote: "They have expressed worry about the possibility of perceived anti-religiosity," Weitz told a His Dark Materials fans' website. But ... but ... What've they done, cut 98% of the STORY? It's just gonna be about this girl and a polar bear now? :( -- Wa

Re: "God Is With Us" L3

On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:44 AM, Gautam Mukunda wrote: From: "Warren Ockrassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I honestly don't know why the lessons of history manage to go unlearned, Dan. I only know that they do. Well, you think that _your_ lessons of history go unlearned. Other people (people who, among other

Fascist Censorship Spreads: New Line Cuts God from Film

<> God cut from Dark Materials film Pullman's books are much praised The director and screenwriter of the film adaptation of Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials is to remove references to God and the church in the movie. Chris Weitz, dir

Scouted: Lesbianism May Be Increased By Thyroxine And Amphetamines During Pregnancy

<> Pregnant women who take slimming pills 'are more likely to have gay children' By Robert Matthews, Science Correspondent Women who take slimming and thyroid pills during pregnancy are

Re: Irregular Question: DVD±RW

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 09:48:36 -0500, Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 07:58:11AM -0600, Ronn Blankenship wrote: > > In looking at DVD burners and the blank discs for them, I have noticed that > > some are labeled "DVD-RW" while others are labeled "DVD+RW". So, > > na

Re: "God Is With Us" L3

- Original Message - From: "Warren Ockrassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 12:02 AM Subject: Re: "God Is With Us" L3 > On Dec 11, 2004, at 10:33 PM, Dan Minette wrote: > > > From: "Warren Ockrassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: "God Is With Us" L3

On Dec 12, 2004, at 9:32 PM, Dan Minette wrote: From: "Warren Ockrassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I honestly don't know why the lessons of history manage to go unlearned, Dan. I only know that they do. That wasn't the question. It wasn't? When a foreign policy graduate student at MIT, who received a deg

Re: Irregular Question: DVD±RW

On Dec 12, 2004, at 10:33 AM, Erik Reuter wrote: My opinion is that if a backup system isn't automated, then it isn't reliable -- humans are the weak link in the backup strategy. You are the weakest link. rm -rf /Erik -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.co

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

- Original Message - From: "Doug Pensinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 12:21 AM Subject: Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz > I thought I already sent this - over three hours ago, but I don't see it > on the list so

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

--- "Robert J. Chassell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A former Israeli paratrooper told me many years ago > that he thought > the US supported Israel because it was an > `unsinkable aircraft > carrier' in a part of the world which provides much > oil. > > (A consequence of this theory is that the

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

I can't even come up with a plausible story in which defending Israel and Taiwan is in our national interest defined in anything but idealogical terms (democray is good, basically), ... A former Israeli paratrooper told me many years ago that he thought the US supported Israel because

Re: "God Is With Us" L3

> In both cases the US was the occupying force, in both cases the > US met much heavier resistance than anticipated, and in both > cases the US was caught off guard. Well, among other things, because your first statement is false and your third statement is questionable.

Re: "God Is With Us" L3

South Vietnam wasn't an independent country? No, under American law, it was not. Nor was North Vietnam. The US considered South Vietnam a `protocol state' meaning that its president would be given honors as if he were president of an independent country. However, the US could and did turn o

Re: Famous Atheist Now Believes in God

On 12 Dec 2004, at 7:30 pm, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=519&e=16&u=/a p/20041209/ap_on_re_us/believing_atheist http://tinyurl.com/5ljs5 A British philosophy professor who has been a leading champion of atheism for more than a half-century has

Brin: Yet another Brin Article?

Minor nitpick: > > Alas, by that point modernist meddlers were too far gone down the > road of arrogant sureness -- so full of their own certainty of what > was right that they were incapable of even tweaking or adjusting > their plans under intelligent criticism. Le Corbusier in Brasilia > and _

Conflict, lessons learned (was Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz)

Gautam Mukunda wrote: If not pissing people off is an important concern of yours I'm wondering where you read this in Doug's words... I'm reading quickly, but the Doug's premise seemed to be that we ideally decide what is the right thing and then do our best to build a coalition around it. It s

Famous Atheist Now Believes in God

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=519&e=16&u=/a p/20041209/ap_on_re_us/believing_atheist http://tinyurl.com/5ljs5 A British philosophy professor who has been a leading champion of atheism for more than a half-century has changed his mind. He now believes in God — more or

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

- Original Message - From: "maru" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz > Perhaps; most bad governments eventually get overthrown, irregardless of > to how high a pitch of pe

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

Not really Gautam: you asked for a way in which you could interpret the invasion as morally bad, and I provided it. If i had said, that under no circumstance should we violate soveirgnty, then I would be elevating it mighty high (& could only defend it by extension from individual rights). And Na

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

--- maru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not really Gautam: you asked for a way in which you > could interpret the > invasion as morally bad, and I provided it. Yes, and I was pointing out the premise which makes your statement true. It's only morally bad if you put an extremely high - a Westpha

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

Perhaps; most bad governments eventually get overthrown, irregardless of to how high a pitch of perfection of oppression their ruling elites have managed, when they piss off their people enough. I would say though, certain rights must be respected by all governments, if the 'marketplace' of nati

Re: Irregular Question: DVD±RW

On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 11:51:53AM -0500, Gary Nunn wrote: > My new and improved, paranoid level, backup strategy is to backup to > DVD monthly, make TWO copies, verify them, one copy stays here at > home, one copy goes in my lock box at the bank with my film negatives > and other selective irrepl

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

--- maru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In answer to your question Gautam, overthrowing > Saddam's government > could be morally wrong because it was as gross a > violation of Iraq's > soveirgnty as could be found. Also, it violates the > people's moral > right to choose their own government- now

RE: Irregular Question: DVD±RW

> Note that I am more interested in using said drive and discs > for storing massive amounts of data than in making multiple > bootleg copies of the extended edition of LotR, if that makes > any difference . . . ;-) > -- Ronn! :) Here are a couple of links about the difference between DVD+R

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

- Original Message - From: "maru" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 8:54 PM Subject: Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz > In answer to your question Gautam, overthrowing Saddam's government > could be morally wrong becaus

Re: Yet another Brin Article?

In a message dated 12/12/2004 9:38:21 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . I have GOT to flee from all this into fiction Comments welcome. Donning a black robe, and riding a NAS-CAR, but with gul-wing doors making it almost a NAS-gul, I begin to chant: "Come bac

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

In answer to your question Gautam, overthrowing Saddam's government could be morally wrong because it was as gross a violation of Iraq's soveirgnty as could be found. Also, it violates the people's moral right to choose their own government- nowhere have I heard a formulation which goes 'the peo

Yet another Brin Article?

Agh, somebody make me stop! Here's another philosophical/social essay, trying to put in perspective what I see going on all around. I have GOT to flee from all this into fiction Comments welcome. db Is the Radical Notion of Modernism Relevant for the Twenty-First Century? by David Brin

RE: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

--- Andrew Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would be interested to hear this coherent > arguement. > The one that demonstrates that Saddan and Iraq were > intimately involved in 9/11. They clearly were not. > > Or was it the second part you were referring too the > War on Terror? > Is the "Ba

Re: "God Is With Us" L3

--- Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 11, 2004, at 10:33 PM, Dan Minette wrote: > > > From: "Warren Ockrassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I honestly don't know why the lessons of history > manage to go > unlearned, Dan. I only know that they do. Well, you think that _your_ lesson

Re: Irregular Question: DVD±RW

On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 07:58:11AM -0600, Ronn Blankenship wrote: > In looking at DVD burners and the blank discs for them, I have noticed that > some are labeled "DVD-RW" while others are labeled "DVD+RW". So, > naturally, I wonder, > > (1) What's the difference? Physically different formats.

Re: Irregular Question: DVD±RW

Ronn Blankenship wrote: > In looking at DVD burners and the blank discs for them, I > have noticed that some are labeled "DVD-RW" while others > are labeled "DVD+RW". So, naturally, I wonder, > (1) What's the difference? Good question. They are different, but the difference was too technical for e

Irregular Question: DVD±RW

In looking at DVD burners and the blank discs for them, I have noticed that some are labeled "DVD-RW" while others are labeled "DVD+RW". So, naturally, I wonder, (1) What's the difference? (2) Which, if either, is preferable? Is this something like VHS/Beta, where those who choose wrong now wi

RE: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> It was wrong because it didn't have anything to do >> with 9/11 or the war on >> terrorism. >So you say. Yet there is, in fact, a pretty coherent >argument otherwise. You don't like it, but that >doesn't make the people who feel otherwise delud

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

On Dec 11, 2004, at 11:21 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: The reason we need to preserve good relations with other countries is because the terrorism we are fighting is stateless and has tendrils in many other countries. If we work together to root it out we stand a far better chance of defeating it.