Re: Social Security

2005-01-24 Thread Gary Denton
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:37:19 -0500, maru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice post Erik. Now your previous ones make more sense (to me, anyway). But one thing: In your proposed allocation, the 25% bonds would be US Treasuries. That would still be vulnerable to the attack that it is merely the gov.'t

The Deficit and The Dollar

2005-01-24 Thread Gary Denton
From The Financial Times: During the past few years the US has become dependent, not so much on millions of investors around the globe but on a few individuals in a few of the world's central banks. In 2003, the most recent year with full international statistics, central banks financed

Re: attn: wtg, MUD to Holocene Chat

2005-01-24 Thread J Gibson
Greetings, My name is Jonathan Gibson. I've looked over the Holocene site and soaked up what I could. I am an interface developer and sci-fi enthusiast keen to have hands on HC Real Soon Now. Count me in and let me know what you need/want next. - JG - [EMAIL PROTECTED] {Email/iChat}

Re: Blow up Jupiter?

2005-01-24 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 23, 2005, at 12:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blow up or ignite Jupiter, creating a miniature sun, the moons become new planets. Ever since reading this idea in A.C.Clark's 2010, I have wondered if this was possible. Could gas giants be ignited? If it were possible, would the moons

Re: Blow up Jupiter?

2005-01-24 Thread Nick Arnett
Dave Land wrote: Need I say more? I think not. Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Blow up Jupiter?

2005-01-24 Thread kerri miller
--- Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the following columns of badly-aligned, context-free numbers that I collected from an obscure government web site clearly show, Jupiter is clearly the cause of the impending collapse of Social Security, not to mention serious perturbations in the

Re: Blow up Jupiter?

2005-01-24 Thread Dave Land
On Jan 24, 2005, at 10:13 AM, kerri miller wrote: --- Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the following columns of badly-aligned, context-free numbers that I collected from an obscure government web site clearly show, Jupiter is clearly the cause of the impending collapse of Social Security, not

Re: Kotlikoff's PSS plan-L3

2005-01-24 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jan 24, 2005, at 5:05 AM, Erik Reuter wrote: * Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I read the rest of the post. Understood most of it. Wish AARP would jump off a cliff or do something similarly constructive Martin Wolf, an economist who writes an excellent weekly column for the

Re: Blow up Jupiter?

2005-01-24 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jan 24, 2005, at 10:59 AM, Dave Land wrote: Need I say more? Yes. What exactly is trickle-down Jovonomics anyway? -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror

Re: Blow up Jupiter?

2005-01-24 Thread MironMurcury
1/24/05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Damn Liberal Media with their Jupiter loving ways! Ask a serious question... It's a good thing I neglected to point out that Jupiter is the home of big government, really big government. Yours, MM

Re: Kotlikoff's PSS plan-L3

2005-01-24 Thread maru
I am confused here- how does giving parents extra votes votes counteract the old's power? Don't the old have most of the sons and daughters? ~Maru Erik Reuter wrote: Martin Wolf, an economist who writes an excellent weekly column for the _Finanical Times_, has suggested that one way to

Re: Kotlikoff's PSS plan-L3

2005-01-24 Thread Gary Denton
Kotlikoff and Burns Both Diss Bush Social Security Plans The Democrats want to deal with it in the traditional manner of politicians: denial. They intend to tinker their way through the largest demographic change in American history. It simply won't work. And now we know what the Republicans

Ten Years To Fix Climate Change

2005-01-24 Thread Gary Denton
The global warming danger threshold for the world is clearly marked for the first time in an international report to be published tomorrow - and the bad news is, the world has nearly reached it already. The countdown to climate-change catastrophe is spelt out by a task force of senior

AOL drops dial-up Newsgroups

2005-01-24 Thread Medievalbk
Well, I'm still getting it free. Vilyehm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: AOL drops dial-up Newsgroups

2005-01-24 Thread kerri miller
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'm still getting it free. Newsgroups? You mean those endless Viagra ads? -kerri, who stopped using Newsgroups 4 years ago, and hasn't been pained much at the loss- __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB

Re: Blow up Jupiter?

2005-01-24 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jan 24, 2005, at 2:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a good thing I neglected to point out that Jupiter is the home of big government, really big government. True, but ours is still more dense. As to whether you could really get fusion going on Jupiter -- IIRC it's actually radiating

RE: Brin: Holocene Chat

2005-01-24 Thread Horn, John
Behalf Of David Brin Below is the list of those I already see interested. Anyone else? If it's not too late, I am interested. - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: AOL drops dial-up Newsgroups

2005-01-24 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 1/24/2005 3:23:51 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Newsgroups? You mean those endless Viagra ads? -kerri, who stopped using Newsgroups 4 years ago, and hasn't been pained much at the loss- Rec.arts.sf.composition and rec.arts.sf.written There

Re: AOL drops dial-up Newsgroups

2005-01-24 Thread maru
alt.fan.dune isn't too bad either. and more miscellaneously, rec.food.drink.tea is a useful group for me. ~Maru optimum online does offer the bin.* hierarchy... just very slow... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rec.arts.sf.composition and rec.arts.sf.written There are a few useful groups mixed in with

Re: Battlestar Galactica

2005-01-24 Thread William T Goodall
On 22 Jan 2005, at 6:46 pm, Gary Nunn wrote: WARNING - VERY minor spoilers of the first three episodes below I liked the Galactica miniseries, but it felt emotionally distant. I did not have that same feeling with Friday's episodes. I am looking forward to seeing the rest of the series, and

Re: Battlestar Galactica

2005-01-24 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jan 24, 2005, at 5:04 PM, William T Goodall wrote: I saw the second part of the two-part season finale tonight here in the UK, and it was awesome. It seems to be doing well in the USA too, so it is looking good for it be renewed. Now I have a long wait to see what happens next... Mm. Nearly

Re: Battlestar Galactica

2005-01-24 Thread Jim Sharkey
I'm very pleasantly surprised so far. I went in expecting crap-o-la, since for every Farscape SciFi gives us five to ten Earthseas, but I caught the miniseries a few weeks ago and have seen the three espisodes since, and I'm hooked. It's on my short must watch list already. Jim Starbuck's a

Googlism _ kind of L3

2005-01-24 Thread Robert G. Seeberger
http://www.googlism.com Googlism.com will find out what Google.com thinks of you, your friends or anything! Search for your name here or for a good laugh check out some of the popular Googlisms below. I did some for some names from the list and got some funny results. Googlism for: nick arnett

Nothing but magnificent (was Re: Googlism _ kind of L3)

2005-01-24 Thread Nick Arnett
Robert G. Seeberger wrote: http://www.googlism.com david brin is a transparent eyeball david brin is a transparent eyeball the sci david brin is mesa college?s commencement speaker david brin is a top bloke himself david brin is one of the few people thinking and writing about the social problems

Re: Googlism _ kind of L3

2005-01-24 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jan 24, 2005, at 7:25 PM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: Googlism for: warren ockrassa warren ockrassa is a multimedia composer for thinking with computers Actually that was me, ca. 1992 - 1998. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in

You're In?

2005-01-24 Thread Robert G. Seeberger
This is just weird! http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/urine_martha.htm For almost the entire course of the 20th century, unknown to the public, doctors and medical researchers have been proving in both laboratory and clinical testing that our own urine is an enormous source of vital

Re: You're In?

2005-01-24 Thread maru
http://www.rotten.com/library/medicine/bodily-functions/pissing/drinking-pee/ More practically, http://www.rotten.com/library/medicine/bodily-functions/pissing/practical-uses/ And of course, who can forget the use of urine to produce, the deadly-but-oh-so-beautiful phisphorus? (I'm thinking of

Re: You're In?

2005-01-24 Thread Dave Land
Folks, This thread reminds me of the Texas quackazoid Stanislaw R. Burzynski, M.D, who believed that antineoplastons could normalize cancer cells. Antineoplastons, of course, were extracted from urine. He was eventually indicted by a federal grand jury for mail fraud and marketing an

Re: Battlestar Galactica

2005-01-24 Thread Damon Agretto
Starbuck's a chick??? Maru Yes, and much better for it, IMHO. Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: UM's PzKpfw 38(t) Ausf. C

Re: Battlestar Galactica

2005-01-24 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jan 24, 2005, at 8:31 PM, Damon Agretto wrote: Starbuck's a chick??? Maru Yes, and much better for it, IMHO. Me too. I like her a lot more than Dirk Benedict's portrayal. Actually watching the miniseries made me forcibly face how sexist the original series was. Even by late 70s standards I

Re: You're In?

2005-01-24 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jan 24, 2005, at 8:23 PM, Dave Land wrote: Dave Piss on 'em Maru :D There's a reason we* don't drink pee. I suspect it's akin to the reason we don't indulge in coprophagia either. *we being defined here as normal people. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books

Re: You're In?

2005-01-24 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jan 24, 2005, at 7:35 PM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: This is just weird! http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/urine_martha.htm On this page there's a link to a video of a chimpanzee (male) drinking its own ... um, effluent. I'm not sure what the page's author is trying to prove here. That