Re: RFK Jr. interview

2006-08-03 Thread Nick Arnett
On 8/2/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And this was before the war? And they concluded that *none* of the stockpiles were weaponized. Yes, John. Again, I'd urge you to go to the sources. Uh, what's your source for

First Freedom First

2006-08-03 Thread Dave Land
Folks, I just signed a petition at http://firstfreedomfirst.org/ aimed at ensuring freedom of -- and from -- religion in America. It is sponsored by Americans United for Separation of Church and State, among others. I'm for that, too. Although you know that I am a Christian (and judge

RE: RFK Jr. interview

2006-08-03 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jdiebremse Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 6:50 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: RFK Jr. interview Or hard decisions. We're in denial over Social Security, for example. And its worth

RE: RFK Jr. interview

2006-08-03 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Arnett Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 10:03 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: RFK Jr. interview On 8/2/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett

Re: RFK Jr. interview

2006-08-03 Thread Nick Arnett
On 8/3/06, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, if you listed a primary source that I couldn't find in your post, I'd be very interested in that. I quoted from the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which is available in many places on the net. I quoted George Tenet's

Re: Moving to Montana Soon?

2006-08-03 Thread bemmzim
Jim wrote: I have a bit of a problem with this idea that environmentalism and economics are mortal enemies. There has to be some middle ground. In fact, in the long run, environmentalism makes good business sense. The problem is that so many businesses in this country don't take

RE: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-08-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
Again, with the responding-to-a-post-withour-reading-the-entire-thread thing; but it could take days for me to get through it all, so here goes: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] DanM wrote: much snippage No-one owes pro-lifers them anything. The thesis is

RE: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-08-03 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a right-to-life person, every child has an inalienable right to life. The only possible exception is when their right to life conflicts with the right to life of the mother. The mother's health is important, of course, but not as critical as

RE: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-08-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
-- PAT MATHEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey, Pat -- this is actually my quoting of Dan, not my own opinion: For a right-to-life person, every child has an inalienable right to life. The only possible exception is when their right to life

Re: Once more into the 9-11 breach

2006-08-03 Thread Brother John
Gibson Jonathan wrote: Greetings compatriots, I note the last few days have seen a small wave of 9-11 collusion/conspiracy events worth bringing up as they appear to shed yet more light on this heated topic. I'm still digesting what we've already been writing and following up on and I'd

RE: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-08-03 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deborah Harrell Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 3:30 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: RE: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex Again, with the

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-08-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On 04/08/2006, at 8:59 AM, Dan Minette wrote: If one accepts - From a medical standpoint, an 8- or 15-week fetus is not an infant or a child. Medical categories are just that, categories. Women are different from men, premature infants display less cognitive ability than some grown

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-08-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 4 Aug 2006, at 12:10AM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 04/08/2006, at 8:59 AM, Dan Minette wrote: If one accepts - From a medical standpoint, an 8- or 15-week fetus is not an infant or a child. Medical categories are just that, categories. Women are different from men, premature infants

RE: RFK Jr. interview

2006-08-03 Thread Dan Minette
I quoted from the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which is available in many places on the net I wasn't sure if you obtained your quoted directly. A quick read of that estimate shows numerous claims that Hussein had significant WMDs in his possession. The text selection tool

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-08-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On 04/08/2006, at 9:20 AM, William T Goodall wrote: Medical categories are just that, categories. Women are different from men, premature infants display less cognitive ability than some grown non-human primatesyet killing an infant is murder, just as killing an adult is, and just

Re: RFK Jr. interview

2006-08-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On 04/08/2006, at 9:25 AM, Dan Minette wrote: We assess that they possess CW bulk fills for SRBM warheads, including for a limited number of covertly stored Scuds, possibly a few with extended range. Ah yes. The missiles. That I, and the British Army base I lived near, were well in

Re: RFK Jr. interview

2006-08-03 Thread Nick Arnett
On 8/3/06, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I quoted from the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which is available in many places on the net I wasn't sure if you obtained your quoted directly. A quick read of that estimate shows numerous claims that Hussein had significant

RE: RFK Jr. interview

2006-08-03 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Arnett Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 6:53 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: RFK Jr. interview available in many places on the net I wasn't sure if you obtained your quoted directly.

RE: RFK Jr. interview

2006-08-03 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:23 PM Thursday 8/3/2006, Dan Minette wrote: There are several problems with this assessment. 1) The report clearly stated that they had biological agents ready for quick weaponization, as well as bulk fills for chemical weapons. Indeed, the version of saran that they used has the

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-08-03 Thread ritu
Not even strident ones. Many people believe that our fellow great apes deserve more consideration (limited human rights, if you will), than, say, cows. I have nothing against the great apes but why demote the cows to make the apes feel better? Ritu GCU From Sacred to Less Than 'Limited Human

Re: RFK Jr. interview

2006-08-03 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tenet's speech about it, in which he makes very clear the difference between having programs and intensions v. actually having WMDs (as well as ordinary weapons v. WMDs), including the crystal-clear statement, They never said

Re: RFK Jr. interview

2006-08-03 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We assess that they possess CW bulk fills for SRBM warheads, including for a limited number of covertly stored Scuds, possibly a few with extended range. Ah yes. The missiles. That I, and the British Army base I lived

More From the National Intelligence Estimate

2006-08-03 Thread jdiebremse
All are quotations: We judge that Iraq has... chemical and biological weapons. (5) Since inspections ended in 1998 Iraq has... energized its missile program and invested more heavily in biolgical weapons; in the view of most agencies, Baghdad is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. (5)

Re: RFK Jr. interview

2006-08-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On 04/08/2006, at 1:56 PM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We assess that they possess CW bulk fills for SRBM warheads, including for a limited number of covertly stored Scuds, possibly a few with extended range. Ah yes. The missiles. That

Re: RFK Jr. interview

2006-08-03 Thread Nick Arnett
On 8/3/06, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, and it rather unambiguously implies that they did not see evidence of WMDs, since Tenet surely would have considered them an imminent threat. There are several problems with this assessment. 1) The report clearly stated that they had