Re: Science and Ideals.

2008-09-07 Thread Richard Baker
Kevin said: Minor nit. The battle of Manzikert was in 1071. Yes, you're right. Thank you. Rich, who must read more about Byzantine history. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Science and Ideals.

2008-09-07 Thread Doug Pensinger
I'm trying to figure out what the two laws of god that Dan referred to in his reply to my last post. The only thing I found on the net is love god and love thy neighbor which I can't imagine is what he means. Can you help me out here Dan? Anyone? Doug

RE: Science and Ideals.

2008-09-07 Thread Dan M
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Pensinger Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 6:13 PM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: Science and Ideals. I'm trying to figure out what the two laws of god that Dan

Re: Science and Ideals.

2008-09-07 Thread jamespv
Let us begin with this basic knowledge. This is found in the tautology of true and false statements or simple basic yes or no logic. I am sure yes and no is not beyond the grasp of any conversant on this page. The truth or falsity of a particular idea exists in the truth of logic, which is

RE: Science and Ideals.

2008-09-07 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Dan M wrote: Earlier than Jesus, Eammial (sp) one of the founding rabbis of the Talmud has been quoted saying something very similar to what Jesus said as the second law about 100 years earlier. There's a story that goes with this, but my portable just crashed and I

Re: Science and Ideals.

2008-09-07 Thread Olin Elliott
Yup, those are the two laws. Loving God with all one's heart, soul, and mind and loving one's neighbor as oneself are the two Great Commandments that Jesus refers too. So what if you don't believe in God and your neighbors are alcholic assholes who keep the neighberhood up all night and

Re: Science and Ideals.

2008-09-07 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:40 PM Sunday 9/7/2008, Olin Elliott wrote: Yup, those are the two laws. Loving God with all one's heart, soul, and mind and loving one's neighbor as oneself are the two Great Commandments that Jesus refers too. So what if you don't believe in God and your neighbors are alcholic

Re: Science and Ideals.

2008-09-07 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:40 PM Sunday 9/7/2008, Olin Elliott wrote: Yup, those are the two laws. Loving God with all one's heart, soul, and mind and loving one's neighbor as oneself are the two Great Commandments that Jesus refers too. So what if you don't believe in God At this holiday season in December,

RE: Science and Ideals.

2008-09-07 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:18 PM Sunday 9/7/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Dan M wrote: Earlier than Jesus, Eammial (sp) one of the founding rabbis of the Talmud has been quoted saying something very similar to what Jesus said as the second law about 100 years earlier. There's a story that

RE: Science and Ideals.

2008-09-07 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 06:44 PM Sunday 9/7/2008, Dan M wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Pensinger Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 6:13 PM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: Science and Ideals. I'm trying to

Re: Welcome to Hyperinflation!

2008-09-07 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:20 PM Monday 9/1/2008, Doug Pensinger wrote: Ronn! wrote: The 4% inflation is unacceptable statement was the Democrat's ridicule of Ford's Whip Inflation Now! campaign and it's WIN buttons. I'm sure they picked the worst figure they could find, just as whoever from the other side who came

Re: Welcome to Hyperinflation!

2008-09-07 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 10:03 PM Monday 9/1/2008, John Williams wrote: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] So who can we blame for poor leadership and the complete lack of a comprehensive energy policy? The same one we blame for poor humanity leadership and complete lack of a comprehensive intelligent-design

Evolution versus religion

2008-09-07 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
Note how Thorax gets it exactly backwards (according to contemporary evolutionary biologists) in the second panel http://www.comics.com/comics/chickweed/archive/images/chickweed2008090116457.jpg . . . ronn! :) ___

Re: Welcome to Hyperinflation!

2008-09-07 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 11:41 PM Monday 9/1/2008, John Williams wrote: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is important is that a leader take responsibility for his administration. It is important that I am able to distinguish between someone that has done a good job and someone that hasn't when I cast my

Re: Welcome to Hyperinflation!

2008-09-07 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:50 AM Tuesday 9/2/2008, John Williams wrote: Waste is not something that can be efficiently identified and reduced by politicians. Indeed even casual observation suggests that the opposite is the more common outcome. . . . ronn! :) ___

Re: war on the environment...

2008-09-07 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:19 PM Wednesday 9/3/2008, John Williams wrote: Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] i think it is already too late, considering humanity's greed, and lack of foresight. Could be. I had a heck of a time getting a statistically significant r-squared with a 4th order curve fit to the

Re: Welcome to Hyperinflation!

2008-09-07 Thread Nick Arnett
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:33 PM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Look at what has happened in a traditionally low-risk marketplace -- real estate -- lately. Even there, investors started having crazy expectations. And yes, the market is correcting,