Charlie Bell wrote:
Oh, I thought it was just what tax is - it's giving up some of your
wealth to pay for roads, schools, infrastructure, basic health needs
and basic support for society.
In theory. In practice, tax is used to finance the tax-collecting
nomenklatura and the parasites
John Williams wrote:
It appears that you are only using the measure of dispersion of wealth.
I mentioned two things: standard of living (which is generally an average
or median statistic) and a free society. I did not mention it, but another
measure of wealth would be how well-off are the
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:27 PM, John Williams
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Bruce Bostwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is literally *illegal* for a publicly
traded corporation not to take every advantage of profitable market
strategy that it can,
Cite please? I know of know literal law that
Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I believe that how a society treats its most vulnerable is a much more
appropriate measure. How does your ideology address that?
I have no ideology, unless you consider live and let live to be one. If you
are asking whether I believe in helping people who
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Rceeberger wrote:
On 9/10/2008 9:09:27 PM, Julia Thompson ([EMAIL
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From: John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, my mom seems to have a trouble with new things. She has a far
different
way of looking at things, and when I try to explain them, she keeps on
asking
questions that
On Sep 12, 2008, at 4:09 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
Oh, I thought it was just what tax is - it's giving up some of your
wealth to pay for roads, schools, infrastructure, basic health needs
and basic support for society.
In theory. In practice, tax is used to finance
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, I'm going to ask some questions that others interpret as setting
strawmen.
I'm not saying don't ask, but I won't guarantee an answer. Although you wouldn't
know it from my posts, I actually wanted to discuss science fiction when
I joined this list (I got
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sep 12, 2008, at 4:09 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
Oh, I thought it was just what tax is - it's giving up some of your
wealth to pay for roads, schools, infrastructure, basic health needs
and
Who cares if the mice nibble the crust, as long as the bread is still there?
Mercedes Lackey, Storm Breaking
http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:22:30 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: Free Market
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:06
On 12 Sep 2008, at 18:22, John Garcia wrote:
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sep 12, 2008, at 4:09 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
Oh, I thought it was just what tax is - it's giving up some of your
wealth to pay for roads, schools,
John has been writing from a position that strongly supports the market over
government control vs. most of the folks on the list. I've tended to be more
on John's side than not in this discussion, but I'm a proponent of a mixed
economy, and will argue that produces the greatest wealth in the
On 12 Sep 2008, at 18:21, John Williams wrote:
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, I'm going to ask some questions that others interpret as setting
strawmen.
I'm not saying don't ask, but I won't guarantee an answer. Although
you wouldn't
know it from my posts, I actually wanted to
At 12:46 PM Friday 9/12/2008, William T Goodall wrote:
On 12 Sep 2008, at 18:22, John Garcia wrote:
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sep 12, 2008, at 4:09 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
Oh, I thought it was just what tax is -
Well, to be clear, it appears that you fit in well with the
frequent posters and represent a voice/perspective that was
lost when folks to the right of me (Eric, JDG and Gautam to
name 3 I can think of) left. I like a wealth of
perspectives. I'm taking a bit of time off in Duluth
MN, now
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Do you agree that having a FDIC and a Federal Reserve System is an acceptable
intervention in the free market?
Sure, they can be helpful. I'd like to see private bank insurance rather than
the FDIC,
but that is probably a pipe dream since even a Berkshire
Although you wouldn't know it from my posts,
I actually wanted to discuss science fiction when
I joined this list (I got a bit sidetracked, obviously).
No one wanted to discuss Greg Bear's latest book.
I just started Neal Stephenson's new book, Anathem.
I'm having a little trouble getting
Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have list of some of my favorite novels I can e-mail you if interested...
Thanks for the offer. I am usually only interested in discussing recent
SF novels while I am reading them or while they are still fresh in my
mind after I recently read them.
Any
Inflation is primarily the result of unproductive
government spending.
If the government wants to limit inflation, they
should reduce unproductive government spending.
hmm, like the total cost of the pre-emptive invasion of iraq?
http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home
I'd
I have list of some of my favorite novels I can e-mail
you if interested...
Thanks for the offer. I am usually only interested in
discussing recent
SF novels while I am reading them or while they are still
fresh in my
mind after I recently read them.
Any recent SF novels on your list?
I have no ideology, unless you consider live and let live
to be one. If you
are asking whether I believe in helping people who cannot
help themselves,
I cannot give you a generalized answer, it depends on the
situation. The
choice is not whether to help someone or not, it is rather
who out
I think Bruce somewhat exaggerates the issue, but if
you're familiar with
the fiduciary obligations of a for-profit corporation to
its shareholders,
you surely realize that present law offers strong
disincentives to engage in
any activity that can't be justified as protecting or
increasing
This discussion is obviously getting neither of us
anywhere. Fine,
whatever, my patience with this thread has now expired.
The only
thing I will say at this point is that my silence does not
imply
agreement.
Listen, when you get home tonight, you're gonna
be confronted by the
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, xponentrob wrote:
Hurricane Ike is closing in on Texas, and stands poised to become one
of the most damaging hurricanes of all time. Despite Ike's rated
Category 2 strength, the hurricane is much larger and more powerful than
Category 5 Katrina or Category 5 Rita.
OK, I'm going to do one more thing that *has* to be
done before 5:30, and
then I'm going to start hauling toys furniture
into the garage. The
last thing I need is something thrown through a window
again.
Julia
good luck, julia, i didn't realize you were on the coast. i ahve
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, John Williams wrote:
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, I'm going to ask some questions that others interpret as setting
strawmen.
I'm not saying don't ask, but I won't guarantee an answer. Although you
wouldn't
know it from my posts, I actually wanted to
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How long is Anathem?
890 pages + about 40 pages of supplementary material at the back. I'm on page
72.
If it's under, say, 800 pages, I might pick up a
copy at FenCon and have it read by Christmas
Ah, well.
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Julia Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, xponentrob wrote:
Hurricane Ike is closing in on Texas, and stands poised to become one
of the most damaging hurricanes of all time. Despite Ike's rated
Category 2 strength, the hurricane is much larger and more powerful
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
OK, I'm going to do one more thing that *has* to be
done before 5:30, and
then I'm going to start hauling toys furniture
into the garage. The
last thing I need is something thrown through a window
again.
Julia
good luck, julia, i didn't
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, John Williams wrote:
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How long is Anathem?
890 pages + about 40 pages of supplementary material at the back. I'm on page
72.
If it's under, say, 800 pages, I might pick up a
copy at FenCon and have it read by Christmas
Ah,
On 9/12/2008 4:47:30 PM, Jon Louis Mann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
OK,
I'm going to do one more thing that *has* to be
done before 5:30, and
then I'm
going to start hauling toys furniture
into the garage. The
last thing I need is something thrown through a window
again.
Julia
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: 08:00 UTC
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Julia Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, xponentrob wrote:
Jon wrote:
recently, i've been reading a lot of british authors; lain banks, peter
hamilton, ian mcdonald, ian r. and ken macleod, alastair reynolds, bob shaw,
chas stross...
i mostly read hi tech,, cutting edge, near future hard sf, some urban
fantasy and alt history.
rhys hughes is on
-- Original message --
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
OK, I'm going to do one more thing that *has* to be
done before 5:30, and
then I'm going to start hauling toys furniture
into the garage. The
On 9/12/2008 11:28:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-- Original message --
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
OK,
I'm going to do one more thing that *has* to be
done before 5:30, and
then I'm
going to
Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So have you read Bank's most recent, Matter?
I read it when it came out, but I seem to have forgotten most of it. I
remember slogging through long descriptive passages wondering when the
action would start, and when it finally did (at the very end) the ending
John Williams wrote:
I read it when it came out, but I seem to have forgotten most of it. I
remember slogging through long descriptive passages wondering when the
action would start, and when it finally did (at the very end) the ending
did
not seem worth the trouble. I think the only
Hang in, Rob, keep us informed
Doug
Rceeberger wrote:
On 9/12/2008 11:28:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-- Original message --
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
OK,
I'm going to do one more
A few links Stephenson fans might be interested in:
http://www.longnow.org/anathem/
and
[
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/stations/AuthorsOnAir/TheBeyond/2008/09/04/Discussion-with-Neal-Stephenson
]
Doug
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