Re: Two Weeks To Go

2008-10-20 Thread Lance A. Brown
And folks are voting by the drove already. My girlfriend and I voted early yesterday afternoon and they had had almost 2,500 people through the system for just that day. If enough people vote early, no October surprise will make a difference. --[Lance] -- GPG Fingerprint: 409B A409 A38D 92BF

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker )

2008-10-20 Thread Charlie Bell
On 20/10/2008, at 9:59 PM, William T Goodall wrote: Do you think it is reasonable that someone should participate in a discussion they are also moderating? In a public forum or in a democracy, no. But this is a private forum, on a private server. It's entirely reasonable for the host to

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker )

2008-10-20 Thread Richard Baker
Charlie said: But this is a private forum, on a private server. It's entirely reasonable for the host to both partake in the conversation and to express displeasure at behaviour deemed disruptive. And, of course, anyone who's unhappy with the situation can fairly easily set up a third

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker )

2008-10-20 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Oct 2008, at 05:38, Doug Pensinger wrote: William wrote: I really don't think you are fit to be list manager. You should do the decent thing and quit. Are you volunteering your time and equipment? I could get it set up in a few days if necessary. Not yet Maru -- William T

Re: Two Weeks To Go

2008-10-20 Thread Julia Thompson
And I can vote early starting today. Need to read up on the local candidates for county offices before I go, though, to make informed decisions there. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Two Weeks To Go

2008-10-20 Thread Euan Ritchie
The Presidency is now a poisoned chalice. If Obama wins, as seems likely, an unambiguous majority and gets a decent mandate I'm curious what he'll do with it. The poor guy is being hailed as if a messiah and no doubt is going to disappoint some by not being able to magic wealth enough to

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker )

2008-10-20 Thread Lance A. Brown
William T Goodall said the following on 10/20/2008 6:59 AM: Do you think it is reasonable that someone should participate in a discussion they are also moderating? Absolutely. --[Lance] -- GPG Fingerprint: 409B A409 A38D 92BF 15D9 6EEE 9A82 F2AC 69AC 07B9 CACert.org Assurer

Fwd: Mobile Phone Database

2008-10-20 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
Everyone who buys a mobile telephone will be forced to register their identity on a national database under government plans to extend massively the powers of state surveillance. Phone buyers would have to present a passport or other official form of identification at the point of purchase.

Re: Two Weeks To Go

2008-10-20 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Oct 2008, at 06:34, Charlie Bell wrote: Anyway, I just thought I should say that despite the lack of onlist chatter, some of us abroad are watching closely (I watched the first two debates in their entirety, and highlights of the third, and the roast from the dinner the other night -

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker )

2008-10-20 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Oct 2008, at 13:56, Lance A. Brown wrote: William T Goodall said the following on 10/20/2008 6:59 AM: Do you think it is reasonable that someone should participate in a discussion they are also moderating? Absolutely. Why? Rationale Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker )

2008-10-20 Thread Lance A. Brown
William T Goodall said the following on 10/20/2008 9:03 AM: On 20 Oct 2008, at 13:56, Lance A. Brown wrote: William T Goodall said the following on 10/20/2008 6:59 AM: Do you think it is reasonable that someone should participate in a discussion they are also moderating? Absolutely.

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker )

2008-10-20 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:03 AM Monday 10/20/2008, William T Goodall wrote: On 20 Oct 2008, at 13:56, Lance A. Brown wrote: William T Goodall said the following on 10/20/2008 6:59 AM: Do you think it is reasonable that someone should participate in a discussion they are also moderating? Absolutely.

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called de-bunker )

2008-10-20 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
Is a de-bunker what a mother with enough small children that they must share a room uses to get them up in the morning? Just Wondering Maru . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker )

2008-10-20 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Oct 2008, at 14:08, Lance A. Brown wrote: As Mr. Bell said: This is a private list on a private server. It is as if we were all invited to a never-ending coffee at Dr. Brin's house. Dr. Brin drops in occasionally and his appointed host includes himself in the conversation while

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called de-bunker )

2008-10-20 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Is a de-bunker what a mother with enough small children that they must share a room uses to get them up in the morning? Deliberately bad singing works sometimes. Julia ___

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-20 Thread John Williams
Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also like the one that goes One has two ears and one mouth, and should use them in that proportion. Don't forget the ten typing fingers. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker )

2008-10-20 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Oct 2008, at 05:35, Charlie Bell wrote: On 20/10/2008, at 1:12 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 20 Oct 2008, at 03:07, Nick Arnett wrote: I'll stop feeding him now and perhaps ponder just how much disruption the list managers should tolerate. A lot, of course, but sheesh... I

Politically Incorrect Guide to Politics

2008-10-20 Thread John Williams
Politically Incorrect Guide to Politics, hosted by John Stossel: Part 1 of 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phs6CwnutoY __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: TV Zeitgeist

2008-10-20 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:45 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _My Own Worst Enemy_ seems to have a very similar concept to the forthcoming _Dollhouse_, mixed with a little bit of _Chuck_. And a dash of Battlestar Galactica. -- Mauro Diotallevi The number you have dialed is

Re: No more feeding the troll

2008-10-20 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Richard Baker wrote: But this is a private forum, on a private server. It's entirely reasonable for the host to both partake in the conversation and to express displeasure at behaviour deemed disruptive. And, of course, anyone who's unhappy with the situation can fairly easily set up a

Re: TV Zeitgeist

2008-10-20 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Oct 2008, at 15:59, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:45 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _My Own Worst Enemy_ seems to have a very similar concept to the forthcoming _Dollhouse_, mixed with a little bit of _Chuck_. And a dash of Battlestar Galactica.

Re: Two Weeks To Go

2008-10-20 Thread Olin Elliott
how come the McCain that was delivering such good lines in the roast doesn't seem to be the same one that's running for President??). Charlie. Probably the same reason the funny, intelligent, passionate Al Gore who promotes An Inconvenient Truth isn't the same as the carboard robot who ran

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-20 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, John Williams wrote: Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also like the one that goes One has two ears and one mouth, and should use them in that proportion. Don't forget the ten typing fingers. Vs. 2 eyes for reading. Hm Julia

Re: Politically Incorrect Guide to Politics

2008-10-20 Thread John Williams
John Williams wrote: Politically Incorrect Guide to Politics, hosted by John Stossel: Part 1 of 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phs6CwnutoY If you don't have time to watch all 6 parts, I think part 4 is the best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pu6cT6ICQQ and part 5 is also illuminating:

Re: Two Weeks To Go

2008-10-20 Thread Jim Sharkey
Olin wrote: As much as I disagree with McCain on just about everything, I really do believe that he's better than the people who are running his campaign. But of course, since he made the choice to let those people -- the same people who savaged him in 2000 when he was running against Bush --

Gen. Colin Powell, Pres. Obama's Secretary of Defense

2008-10-20 Thread Lance A. Brown
I had this thought before lunch and thought I'd share it with the list. I googled it and found that I'm not the first to think of it so I can't claim it as my own. I'd been thinking about Powell's endorsement of Obama this weekend and how much impressed with him I've always been, even after his

Re: Gen. Colin Powell, Pres. Obama's Secretary of Defense

2008-10-20 Thread Euan Ritchie
I think Barack Obama shoud make Colin Powell his Secretary of Defense. What, and actively destroy Damask's personal support by supplying jobs to an accomplice to mass murder? Powell knowingly lied on a stage (the U.N) built expressly for the purpose of preventing wars to actively promote the

Re: Gen. Colin Powell, Pres. Obama's Secretary of Defense

2008-10-20 Thread Julia Thompson
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Euan Ritchie wrote: I think Barack Obama shoud make Colin Powell his Secretary of Defense. What, and actively destroy Damask's personal support by supplying jobs to an accomplice to mass murder? Powell knowingly lied on a stage (the U.N) built expressly for the

Re: Gen. Colin Powell, Pres. Obama's Secretary of Defense

2008-10-20 Thread Lance A. Brown
Euan Ritchie said the following on 10/20/2008 3:38 PM: I think Barack Obama shoud make Colin Powell his Secretary of Defense. One elegant speech does not magically change a person or their responsibly for their past. Plus a long and distinguished career in the military, Chief of the Joint

Re: Gen. Colin Powell, Pres. Obama's Secretary of Defense

2008-10-20 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Julia Thompson wrote: It's like the people running around accusing Obama of being a Muslim -- it's inaccurate, but they may have been lied to by people who want to turn opinion against Obama, and not be intending to lie. That would be the perfect conspiracy theory, following the

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called de-bunker )

2008-10-20 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:35 AM Monday 10/20/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Is a de-bunker what a mother with enough small children that they must share a room uses to get them up in the morning? Deliberately bad singing works sometimes. Julia It can

Monotonous posting

2008-10-20 Thread Jon Louis Mann
It's been very quiet here since the thought police manifesto. Obvious Maru what manifesto? oblivious maru... I don't think we've ever moderated anybody for frequent off-topic posting, but I'm growing increasingly concerned that many of your postings are a distraction and offensive to some

Re: Monotonous posting

2008-10-20 Thread Olin Elliott
What will cause people to leave this list is trolls who have nothing better to do than exhibit their asperger's syndrome... jon Just for the record, I have Asperger's, and I don't act like a Troll (usually). Bad choice of aspersions there. Olin - Original Message - From: Jon

RE: Monotonous posting

2008-10-20 Thread Pat Mathews
Ditto. Grrr... is a Billy Goat Gruff walking on MY bridge? http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Monotonous posting Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:43:02 -0700 What will cause people to leave this list is trolls who have nothing

Monotonous posting

2008-10-20 Thread Jon Louis Mann
What will cause people to leave this list is trolls who have nothing better to do than exhibit their asperger's syndrome... jon Just for the record, I have Asperger's, and I don't act like a Troll (usually). Bad choice of aspersions there. Olin sorry olin, i was generalizing because

Re: Two Weeks To Go

2008-10-20 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Oct 2008, at 18:37, Jim Sharkey wrote: Olin wrote: As much as I disagree with McCain on just about everything, I really do believe that he's better than the people who are running his campaign. But of course, since he made the choice to let those people -- the same people who

Re: Two Weeks To Go

2008-10-20 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Oct 2008, at 13:21, Euan Ritchie wrote: The Presidency is now a poisoned chalice. If Obama wins, as seems likely, an unambiguous majority and gets a decent mandate I'm curious what he'll do with it. The poor guy is being hailed as if a messiah and no doubt is going to disappoint

Re: Two Weeks To Go

2008-10-20 Thread John Williams
William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 20 Oct 2008, at 18:37, Jim Sharkey wrote: That fact is amazing to me. Choosing Palin for VP is amazing too. All politics is amazing to me. Or perhaps depressing is a better word. In my dreams, I'd vote for a politician with a promise like this in

Re: Monotonous posting

2008-10-20 Thread William T Goodall
On 21 Oct 2008, at 00:04, Jon Louis Mann wrote: What will cause people to leave this list is trolls who have nothing better to do than exhibit their asperger's syndrome... jon Just for the record, I have Asperger's, and I don't act like a Troll (usually). Bad choice of aspersions there.

Re: TV Zeitgeist

2008-10-20 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Oct 2008, at 15:59, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:45 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _My Own Worst Enemy_ seems to have a very similar concept to the forthcoming _Dollhouse_, mixed with a little bit of _Chuck_. And a dash of Battlestar Galactica.

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called de-bunker )

2008-10-20 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 08:35 AM Monday 10/20/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Is a de-bunker what a mother with enough small children that they must share a room uses to get them up in the morning? Deliberately bad

Re: Monotonous posting

2008-10-20 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote: What will cause people to leave this list is trolls who have nothing better to do than exhibit their asperger's syndrome... jon Just for the record, I have Asperger's, and I don't act like a Troll (usually). Bad choice of aspersions there.

Asperger's syndrome

2008-10-20 Thread Jon Louis Mann
While someone with AS might be less inclined to generalize (At least an autistic kid would probably have less of a tendency to generalize than a non-autistic kid.) Julia People with with Asperger's syndrome may: Not pick up on social cues and lack inborn social skills, such as

Asperger's

2008-10-20 Thread Jon Louis Mann
sorry olin, i was generalizing because of my ex-wife... Your ex-wife was a troll? Did she have tusks Maru? William T Goodall i don't know if she was a troll, but she definitely had Asperger's. i acall that she would go on yahoo and LOL at the responses to the online stories... jon