Re: Acts of War Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-18 Thread Warren Ockrassa
. Brin is so obnoxious, well, I know of no earthly agency that's forcing you to stick around. So why do you do it? -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-17 Thread Warren Ockrassa
lethal -- proportions. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: Irregulars question: new HD

2004-12-17 Thread Warren Ockrassa
of it. PS: the sound seems to have broken too :-/ Oh dear. HW interrupts? No, I didn't connect the _cable_ from the computer to the monitor. I was too much paranoid :-/ I thought you meant the sound isn't working at all... -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com

Re: Bill O'Reilly: Can He Possibly Be That Thick?

2004-12-17 Thread Warren Ockrassa
to reflexively prevaricate after a while. [Now awaiting the outraged spluttering from some hard-right loon apologist...] -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-17 Thread Warren Ockrassa
of trying to suggest connections between Iraq and 9/11? Given that both suggestions are accurate, it doesn't seem like there's any difference at all. ;) -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

2004-12-16 Thread Warren Ockrassa
energies at all. Of course if there *has* been covert development, whichever company/government was doing it would have a commanding lead both in terms of profit and offensive/defensive power. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

2004-12-16 Thread Warren Ockrassa
and so on -- these really aren't very conservative strategies on balance. They're very short-sighted and long-term foolish, and their negative future effects will be felt by many people alive today. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work

Re: Irregulars question: new HD

2004-12-16 Thread Warren Ockrassa
too :-/ Oh dear. HW interrupts? -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

2004-12-16 Thread Warren Ockrassa
lines and dealing with cable maintenance. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com

Re: Scouted: Popists: 'Christianophobia' = Anti-Semitism; Demand UN Recognition

2004-12-15 Thread Warren Ockrassa
. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Famous Atheist Now Believes in God

2004-12-14 Thread Warren Ockrassa
. According to God it makes no difference; I don't believe in him, the deity was reported as saying Monday in response to Flew's virtual deathbed conversion. Neener neener, too late, God added. ;) -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress

Re: Scouted: Lesbianism May Be Increased By Thyroxine And Amphetamines During Pregnancy

2004-12-14 Thread Warren Ockrassa
they *chose* their orientation? -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

2004-12-14 Thread Warren Ockrassa
that it isn't being manipulated in many other areas, too. It's especially galling when the faulty intelligence gets re-elected. ;) Of course we didn't know that would happen back in 6/03. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

2004-12-14 Thread Warren Ockrassa
active threats? Or suppose there's a non-US-approved regime change in Pakistan? We've too many irons in the fire right now, I fear. And it wasn't a fire that needed to be stoked. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven

Re: Irregular Question: DVD?RW

2004-12-14 Thread Warren Ockrassa
/* Fortunately the verbose flag saved me before *too much* of the DOS install was tweaked. IIRC I had to reinstall Win 3.1, but that was the worst damage. So do we get drunk and start singing old sailor chanties now? -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

2004-12-14 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Dec 14, 2004, at 6:47 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] As despotic as Saddam was, I'm not so sure he could have convinced one of his flunkies to personally carry a small unshielded nuke and/or be nearby when it detonated. That's much more like a Jihadist

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-13 Thread Warren Ockrassa
not the one trying to deny the reality of the definition of war; nor am I the one who is apparently unaware that warfare is about conquering the enemy. What, exactly, are they teaching you in those PolySci courses? -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-13 Thread Warren Ockrassa
goal was to get North Viet Nam back -- to unify the country -- and that would mean overthrow of the government or, in today's terms, regime change. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-13 Thread Warren Ockrassa
You, sir, are free to autocopulate at a time and place of your choosing. I will not bandy words further with you. On Dec 13, 2004, at 9:37 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Warren asked (Yahoo truncated it) what they are teaching me in Poli. Sci. courses

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

2004-12-13 Thread Warren Ockrassa
Hussein were to, say, acquire a nuclear weapon from the A. Q. Khan underground network, isn't it a little too late at that point to do something about the problem? You can't arrest someone based on something he might do someday. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

2004-12-12 Thread Warren Ockrassa
degrees for some reason no one can readily explain? -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-12 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Dec 12, 2004, at 9:32 PM, Dan Minette wrote: From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] I honestly don't know why the lessons of history manage to go unlearned, Dan. I only know that they do. That wasn't the question. It wasn't? When a foreign policy graduate student at MIT, who received a degree

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-12 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:44 AM, Gautam Mukunda wrote: From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] I honestly don't know why the lessons of history manage to go unlearned, Dan. I only know that they do. Well, you think that _your_ lessons of history go unlearned. Other people (people who, among other

Re: Fascist Censorship Spreads: New Line Cuts God from Film

2004-12-12 Thread Warren Ockrassa
? :( -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Irregular Question: DVD±RW

2004-12-12 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Dec 12, 2004, at 10:33 AM, Erik Reuter wrote: My opinion is that if a backup system isn't automated, then it isn't reliable -- humans are the weak link in the backup strategy. You are the weakest link. rm -rf /Erik -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-11 Thread Warren Ockrassa
of them were AROUND when Viet Nam was taking place. How pig-stupid ass-backwards do you have to be to not even recall the lessons of history you've lived through? -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-11 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Dec 11, 2004, at 4:39 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is even more disgusting, since half of them were AROUND when Viet Nam was taking place. How pig-stupid ass-backwards do you have to be to not even recall the lessons of history you've lived

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-11 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Dec 11, 2004, at 10:33 PM, Dan Minette wrote: From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's see. For starters, don't let old hawks like Rummy and Cheney grab the reins. Um, don't assume that US forces will be welcomed by the natives. Never assume you've got a situation in hand before you've

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-10 Thread Warren Ockrassa
. -George W. Bush, 11/3/2004 Hey, you want to quote a drunk, go ahead and quote a drunk. I'll merely point out that there are many voices in this one country, and not all of us want to be bound by George's vision for the future. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares

Re: Brin: Call this Security?

2004-12-10 Thread Warren Ockrassa
for balance, being objective, looking out for America's best interests, and the other things conservatives lay claim to. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-10 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Dec 10, 2004, at 6:15 PM, Dave Land wrote: The earth is an oblate spheroid (of which an MM is a more extreme example). As is Saturn. Visibly so. And with a MUCH larger m on it. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-10 Thread Warren Ockrassa
. He's a damned fool, and as far as I'm concerned he's a murderer. Just like George. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-10 Thread Warren Ockrassa
have been over there at all. And while we lost focus on Afghanistan, OBL escaped. And somehow, somehow, The Moron got re-elected and one of the most pathetic players in his administration got to keep his job. And what's the liberal media saying about any of this? -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-10 Thread Warren Ockrassa
they are not outsourcing.) Which leads to the next logical question of course. The one following that is When will Congress impeach Bush? -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa

Re: Scouted: Democrats, at last, trying to get religion

2004-12-09 Thread Warren Ockrassa
to target, not moderate Christians. And only *some* Evangelicals are knucklewalkers. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

Wal-Mart Announces Massive Rollback On Employee Wages

2004-12-09 Thread Warren Ockrassa
find in good old-fashioned American labor.' == Gotta love the Onion. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-09 Thread Warren Ockrassa
-wing extremists take it around the bend. The only way to respond meaningfully to it is for George to tone it down and advise others to do the same, but he won't do that, because that requires wisdom and subtlety, two traits which he is conspicuously lacking. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor

Re: Ethics L3

2004-12-09 Thread Warren Ockrassa
[I'll just amplify where necessary; there isn't much.] On Dec 9, 2004, at 4:21 PM, Dan Minette wrote: From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To the extent that you want to argue that scientific pursuit really is more about figuring out mechanics than anything else, I'm likely to agree

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

2004-12-09 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Dec 9, 2004, at 7:47 PM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/quiz/neoconQuiz.html Huh! I rated high-grade homophobic! Go fig. ;) (No, I got liberal too, which isn't surprising to me much.) -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http

Re: God Is With Us

2004-12-08 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Dec 7, 2004, at 5:22 PM, Dave Land wrote: On Dec 7, 2004, at 3:15 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: Interesting analyses of the Decalogue from many PsOV: http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_10co.htm Thanks, Warren. :D I think sometimes that there is a feeling among those with faith that atheists

Outsourcing ne plus ultra

2004-12-08 Thread Warren Ockrassa
. == My comment: Possibly in a few more years the company will be able to hire cheap technical labor from some third-world economic power to keep everything competitively profitable. Wonder if the US will be the third-world economic power in question. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares

Re: God Is With Us

2004-12-08 Thread Warren Ockrassa
kooks? Spooky. They're ready to crash a few airplanes themselves, it seems like.) -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

Re: B!in: Call this Security?

2004-12-08 Thread Warren Ockrassa
by the conservative party. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: God Is With Us

2004-12-08 Thread Warren Ockrassa
unambiguous. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: God Is With Us

2004-12-08 Thread Warren Ockrassa
are *not* considered gods, they really aren't in violation of the jealous god idea either. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

Re: God Is With Us

2004-12-07 Thread Warren Ockrassa
America. It's not just that. It's fat, worthless swine like Falwell spouting pure hate, saying that (in essence) he supports a new crusade ... and yet ignores Commandment 6. Who's using the situational ethics there? ;) -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com

Re: God Is With Us

2004-12-07 Thread Warren Ockrassa
://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_10co.htm -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Thomas Paine: The Yell The War-Whoop

2004-12-07 Thread Warren Ockrassa
KHAAANNN! -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman

Re: The Prospect on the Future of the Democrats

2004-12-06 Thread Warren Ockrassa
shabby of me to set out to make others' lives miserable, or bring them to premature ends, wouldn't it? That's the short-form answer to the question of why atheists aren't all thieving psychotic murderous drooling perverts. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http

Re: The Prospect on the Future of the Democrats

2004-12-06 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Dec 6, 2004, at 2:30 PM, Dan Minette wrote: From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recognition of the present as the only observable reality. I don't torture nuns because I would not like it if someone were to torture me. That's a reflection of do onto others as you would have them do unto

Re: If you're bored this evening...

2004-12-06 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Dec 6, 2004, at 5:30 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: http://www.lostfrog.org/95.html In case someone thinks they have to click through the pics.G In this vein: http://albinoblacksheep.com/flash/badgers.php Probably nothing new to many, but a perennial favorite of my own. -- Warren Ockrassa

Re: If you're bored this evening...

2004-12-06 Thread Warren Ockrassa
nonsense with absolutely no shame. Wh ... uh, YEAH! Right, um, gee, it's great to have a, uh, 7-year-old of my own to, um, yeah. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa

Re: The Prospect on the Future of the Democrats

2004-12-06 Thread Warren Ockrassa
is the goal. After all we don't exist except in the present, do we? -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

Re: Scouted: Fascist Censorship Spreads: Viacom and GE are EVIL

2004-12-05 Thread Warren Ockrassa
and Jonathan were pretty controversial, yeah. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http

Re: Somethin' I'm warren about

2004-12-05 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Dec 5, 2004, at 5:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read in the paper that the cannibals are opening a Buffet. Bruise not nor buffet him with your rough humor, Sing you his prowess! -- Marguerite Wilkinson -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com

Re: Won what? (was Re: So it begins....)

2004-12-03 Thread Warren Ockrassa
-- with the recent upsurge in religiosity among conservative ranks it's no wonder they choose superstition over science. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa

Re: Response to sorryeverybody

2004-12-02 Thread Warren Ockrassa
. The kind you're suggesting we follow is much closer to nationalism, and I for one refuse to march in lockstep with current policy, because I am certain to my core that it is wrong in every aspect. My country, right or wrong is not thinking. It's not even an argument. It's just plain dumb. -- Warren

Re: Response to sorryeverybody

2004-12-02 Thread Warren Ockrassa
opinion is unpatriotic. John's opinion seems to be a product of an unhealthy obsession with isolation, secrecy and nationalistic hubris. His point of view alone is really sufficient argument against itself, to anyone who considers it for a few minutes. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor

Re: Hugs (was Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time)

2004-12-02 Thread Warren Ockrassa
the holy words in our hearts. So we place them on top of our hearts. And there they stay until, one day, the heart breaks, and the words fall in. That's really quite lovely. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year

Re: The Greatest Canadian

2004-12-01 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 30, 2004, at 4:34 PM, Travis Edmunds wrote: From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would you think less of a neighbor to the south for his not knowing who the heck Tommy Douglas was until he looked it up? No, not at all. Who's Tommy Douglas? Oh, some nobk, eh. Probably a relative

Re: Ow ow ow ow ow

2004-12-01 Thread Warren Ockrassa
. And hey, you have an in with the hunky firefighters now. Drop by the station with some cookies or something (pretense of a thank-you gesture) and harvest a few names and phone numbers. Plant a couple roses in that there fresh patch o' manure. (I'm not joking.) :D -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher

Chiropractic [was Re: Ow ow ow ow ow]

2004-12-01 Thread Warren Ockrassa
to relieving pinched nerves and such, but then they start getting into subluxations and other such mumbo-jumbo, as well as the hogwash you cite. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http

Wasting no time...

2004-12-01 Thread Warren Ockrassa
banned. It's all based on how one interprets the material, Owes said. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

Re: Wasting no time...

2004-12-01 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Dec 1, 2004, at 2:22 PM, Dave Land wrote: On Dec 1, 2004, at 1:04 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: Let's hear it for the religious loonies! They're doing exactly what they promised to do, and sooner than we realize it'll be 1950 all over again. Won't that just be grand? Why, it'll surely be ... gay

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-12-01 Thread Warren Ockrassa
aren't the concern so much as whether one intends to hurt with the jokes. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-30 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 28, 2004, at 10:08 PM, Ritu wrote: Warren Ockrassa wrote: But when you work at any job at all you are doing exactly the same thing. You're selling your body for money. Even if your work is strictly intellectual, since there is no way to separate mind from body, you are *always* trading

Re: WHAT? Five dead in deer hunting dispute

2004-11-30 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 29, 2004, at 7:42 PM, Dave Land wrote: On Nov 29, 2004, at 5:19 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: What you probably don't know, because you don't live there (I used to until earlier this year) is that in north/central Wisconsin the Hmong community is facing a lot of problems, not the lest

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-30 Thread Warren Ockrassa
and answer it truthfully. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/assault/etc/quiz.html That's it. We're through. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa

Re: The Greatest Canadian

2004-11-30 Thread Warren Ockrassa
was until he looked it up? You know, I would have been plumping for David Suzuki. ;) -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

Re: WHAT? Five dead in deer hunting dispute

2004-11-30 Thread Warren Ockrassa
in 'Nam... That's pretty good. I suppose it might have been outre to have her simply respond, YESSS, I SPEAK EEENGLIIISH, ASSS WEEEL ASSS (X) THE LNGUAGSS. X being, of course, whatever number is appropriate. Gawd, I love that woman. She have a brother? ;) -- Warren

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-29 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 28, 2004, at 9:32 PM, Dan Minette wrote: From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Nov 28, 2004, at 12:39 PM, Damon Agretto wrote: And Warren, that sort of altitude is not going to win you any arguments, and in fact invalidates any sort of rational argument you with to present. Not when

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-29 Thread Warren Ockrassa
this battle considerably longer than you (I suspect), and I know downward trends when I see them. Institutionalized bigotry leads to murders. There's plenty of historical proof to back up that claim. I advocate neutralizing the cancer before it spreads. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-29 Thread Warren Ockrassa
-denominational prayer in public schools? Yes. And actually, the under God should be removed from the pledge as well. Schools are not in the business of teaching religion or morality -- those are best left to the parents, don't you think? BTW, what precisely is a non-denominational prayer? -- Warren

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-29 Thread Warren Ockrassa
much for being happy to be corrected. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-29 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 29, 2004, at 10:06 AM, Dan Minette wrote: From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Nov 28, 2004, at 9:32 PM, Dan Minette wrote: From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Nov 28, 2004, at 12:39 PM, Damon Agretto wrote: And Warren, that sort of altitude is not going to win you any

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-29 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 29, 2004, at 10:42 AM, Dan Minette wrote: From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] If these clowns love Jesus so much, I see nothing wrong with sending them to meet him immediately. Whoops, I mis-read. You said something about killing Christians. So, that's OK? It appears so. I don't

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-29 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 29, 2004, at 11:27 AM, Dave Land wrote: That's correct. It's called a pre-emptive strike. Actually, it's called murder. Welcome to death row. No, it's called war. And I'm not the one bringing it on, remember? -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-29 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 29, 2004, at 11:54 AM, Dan Minette wrote: From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whoops, I mis-read. You said something about killing Christians. So, that's OK? It appears so. I don't advocate killing Christians, just bigots. There are enough of them in the world already. We don't need

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-29 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 29, 2004, at 10:45 AM, Dan Minette wrote: From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Nov 29, 2004, at 7:56 AM, Dan Minette wrote: So far you haven't supplied contrary evidence. In fact you've supplied nothing at all except, at best, hearsay. Ah, if I haven't talked to the women myself

Re: Won what? (was Re: So it begins....)

2004-11-29 Thread Warren Ockrassa
winning or losing elections. To me, it is about how the leadership views the nation. How about how the direction in which the nation wants to go? 52% of those who voted do not constitute the nation. 18% of that 52% absolutely are not the nation. Which nation do you think you live in? -- Warren Ockrassa

Re: WHAT? Five dead in deer hunting dispute

2004-11-29 Thread Warren Ockrassa
population. So I *can* see how the other hunters could have tossed some slurs around, and that this guy felt -- or was! threatened; contrarily I can also see this guy being somewhat around the bend and simply going on a shooting spree, figuring he'd never get caught. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-29 Thread Warren Ockrassa
of nobility. It's MY life and MY liberty that are on the line here. And it is a deeply personal issue that any GLBT person should be aware of and should be fighting like hell to change. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-28 Thread Warren Ockrassa
If these clowns love Jesus so much, I see nothing wrong with sending them to meet him immediately. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-28 Thread Warren Ockrassa
Christians? -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: So it begins.... Evangelicals to Bush: Payback Time

2004-11-28 Thread Warren Ockrassa
and our lives. -- On Nov 28, 2004, at 12:45 PM, Richard Baker wrote: So do you have a wormhole time machine I don't know about or are you implying that you believe he really was the Son of God? Neither. I was being facetious. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http

Re: Hypothetical Uplift question

2004-11-27 Thread Warren Ockrassa
. ;) -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Hypothetical Uplift question

2004-11-26 Thread Warren Ockrassa
appearance -- there's behavior as well. While we share a lot of behavior traits with our simian cousins, we do have some characteristics (organized language, technology) that they lack. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress

Re: Hypothetical Uplift question

2004-11-26 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 26, 2004, at 8:37 PM, Damon Agretto wrote: The very fact that the 2 species cannot interbreed would probably be telling... Well, there go *my* holiday plans. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-25 Thread Warren Ockrassa
to consider. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-24 Thread Warren Ockrassa
. It's a tautology you're promoting, not a universal rule. I also find it very interesting that you speak only of female prostitutes. There's another entire gender out there you've overlooked, which says even more about a possible bias on your part than anything else I can bring up. -- Warren

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-24 Thread Warren Ockrassa
not thinking of that, though, nor am I thinking of hippy communes. I believe what I'm referring to is called polyamory but I'm specifically thinking of multiple parental figures (more than two) living in the same household. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-24 Thread Warren Ockrassa
you might personally disapprove of S-M, BD or even prostitution, you cannot declare that those activities are universally unhealthy nor that those who practice them are abuse victims. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-24 Thread Warren Ockrassa
for them. I don't believe that's an unreasonable request, and I'm not sure why you keep ignoring it. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-24 Thread Warren Ockrassa
. IOW, if those CPAs were all classmates or lived in the same neighborhood, it still wouldn't necessarily be remarkable that they were all mugged. And of course you know you've still got a problem with sample size. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com

Re: Itunes

2004-11-24 Thread Warren Ockrassa
-in-a-row songs for various artists. Twofer Tuesday. This might be entirely perceptual, of course. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-23 Thread Warren Ockrassa
you've managed to produce is a load of gas. That you stoop to such tactics says a great deal about the value not of my arguments, but of yours. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-23 Thread Warren Ockrassa
context in which those premises arose. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-23 Thread Warren Ockrassa
as well. (My earliest explorations began when I was 5, and I'm not talking about playing doctor either.) Thus, anecdotally at least, some of these findings are supported. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-23 Thread Warren Ockrassa
, how you make the jump from paying for sex to treating the sex partner as an object. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin

2004-11-23 Thread Warren Ockrassa
relationships? Dan, there are other reasons to have sex. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http

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