RE: Google Operating System

2009-07-14 Thread Julia
_ From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of Doug Pensinger Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:38 PM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: Google Operating System Julia wrote: Reply: I get no more than 1 in 500 false

RE: Google Operating System

2009-07-13 Thread Julia Thompson
-Original Message- From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of John Williams Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:48 PM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: Google Operating System On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Doug

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-13 Thread John Williams
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Julia Thompsonf...@zurg.net wrote: I get no more than 1 in 500 false positives. I get no more than 1 in 1000 false negatives. That is interesting. I am much more worried about false positives (missing a real email) than I am about false negatives (seeing a few

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-13 Thread Doug Pensinger
Julia wrote: Reply: I get no more than 1 in 500 false positives. I get no more than 1 in 1000 false negatives. It was more than that early on in my use of Gmail, I got one account in 2004, IIRC, and another in 2007. The more recent one, most of the false positives were from one mailing

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-11 Thread Lance A. Brown
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Other than by breaking the M$ pay to play licensing paradigm and leveling the playing field for open source developers? Who says M$ won't have users pay to play M$-Linux? It's possible that the worse nightmare of the free-software sjihad/s community happens: M$ may

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 8, 2009, at 8:35 PM, John Williams wrote: My prediction is that Chrome OS will never gain significant market share for high-powered computers, but it may make some inroads in netbooks (which are in between a notebook and a smart phone in terms of power). Of course, the google says Chrome

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Charlie Bell
On 09/07/2009, at 1:35 PM, John Williams wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Rceebergerrceeber...@comcast.net wrote: I don't see how turning your PC into a dumb terminal could be considered an advance. I'm not storing my stuff on Google's servers. My impression is that the Chrome OS

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie Wrote ...and Google already have one. It's called Android, plus there's gOS which Google had hefty input into. And there are miriad other Linuces and BSDs to try, up to and including Darwin/OSX. So I'm with Will (you can pick yourselves up at your leisure). Don't see the point of

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Alberto Monteiro
John Williams wrote: My impression is that the Chrome OS will allow you to avoid just what you say above. It is an actual OS, although probably OS lite would be a better term. It will be able to run programs on your own CPU, provided they conform to whatever API google is coding, and it

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Dave Landdml...@gmail.com wrote:    http://bit.ly/1m1rVP or, if you prefer full-blooded URLs:  http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2009/07/lets-all-take-deep-breath-and-get-some.html It's brilliant start to finish, but I especially liked:    Trying to make an OS

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 9, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2009/07/lets-all-take-deep-breath-and-get-some.html It's brilliant start to finish, but I especially liked: Trying to make an OS out of Chrome is like saying you're going to turn a Pontiac Aztek into a

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Charlie Bellchar...@culturelist.org wrote: On 09/07/2009, at 1:35 PM, John Williams wrote: My impression is that the Chrome OS will allow you to avoid just what you say above. It is an actual OS, although probably OS lite would be a better term. ...and Google

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Charlie Bell
On 10/07/2009, at 12:53 AM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Charlie Bellchar...@culturelist.org wrote: On 09/07/2009, at 1:35 PM, John Williams wrote: My impression is that the Chrome OS will allow you to avoid just what you say above. It is an actual OS, although

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 9, 2009, at 7:41 AM, Bruce Bostwick wrote: (As far as why .. well, it's possible that Google has taken notice that Microsoft has been promoting Bing pretty heavily, and this is a shot across their bow. If Chrome OS succeeds, and evolves into something that can displace Windows as a

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Bruce Bostwick wrote: (As far as why .. well, it's possible that Google has taken notice that Microsoft has been promoting Bing pretty heavily, and this is a shot across their bow. If Chrome OS succeeds, and evolves into something that can displace Windows as a full-functioning OS,

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 9, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Dave Land wrote: I am not like our friend Mario with his 57 Varieties approach to operating systems. I use Mac OS X almost exclusively because operating system fit and finish matter to me. (This is not a statement of superiority to Mario, merely noting a

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 9, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Bruce Bostwick wrote: (As far as why .. well, it's possible that Google has taken notice that Microsoft has been promoting Bing pretty heavily, and this is a shot across their bow. If Chrome OS succeeds, and evolves into something that can

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Bruce Bostwick wrote: Not to mention that changing Windows virtual monopoly to *Nix monopoly is _very bad_ for the development of new techs. How would migrating to a larger user base for *nix be bad for the development of new techs? Because Monopoly is Evil. Other than by breaking the

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 9, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Who says M$ won't have users pay to play M$-Linux? It's possible that the worse nightmare of the free-software sjihad/s community happens: M$ may embrace, extend and then extinguish Linux. The way they embraced and extended the Web with

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 8 Jul 2009 at 23:43, Doug Pensinger wrote: Charlie Wrote ...and Google already have one. It's called Android, plus there's gOS which Google had hefty input into. And there are miriad other Linuces and BSDs to try, up to and including Darwin/OSX. So I'm with Will (you can pick

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 10:35 PM Wednesday 7/8/2009, John Williams wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Rceebergerrceeber...@comcast.net wrote: I don't see how turning your PC into a dumb terminal could be considered an advance. I'm not storing my stuff on Google's servers. My impression is that the Chrome

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Rceeberger
On 7/9/2009 11:15:40 AM, Bruce Bostwick (lihan161...@sbcglobal.net) wrote: At the risk of being flamed, I might also point out that NASA has long since forbidden any primary functionality on ISS from running on Windows platforms because of stability concerns -- if it's onboard and actually

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 9, 2009, at 7:38 PM, Rceeberger wrote: On 7/9/2009 11:15:40 AM, Bruce Bostwick (lihan161...@sbcglobal.net) wrote: At the risk of being flamed, I might also point out that NASA has long since forbidden any primary functionality on ISS from running on Windows platforms because of

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread xponentrob
- Original Message - From: Bruce Bostwick lihan161...@sbcglobal.net To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:37 PM Subject: Re: Google Operating System Sounds like you might know the right people to ask for a tour*. ;) (*one

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Doug Pensinger
Andrew wrote: The spam filter on Pegaus Mail works fine for me, and it's mine rather then being in the control of a company which is going to scan my emails. I've yet to find (and this includes gmail) another filter which is more than 90% accurate for me. I'd estimate the efficiency of my

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread John Williams
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Doug Pensingerbrig...@zo.com wrote: I'd estimate the efficiency of my gmail filter is 99% or better. That is a particularly uninformative statistic. Much more interesting would be two figures: probability of false positives ( number of real marked as spam /

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 11:48 PM Thursday 7/9/2009, John Williams wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Doug Pensingerbrig...@zo.com wrote: I'd estimate the efficiency of my gmail filter is 99% or better. That is a particularly uninformative statistic. Much more interesting would be two figures: probability of

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:48 PM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Doug Pensingerbrig...@zo.com wrote: I'd estimate the efficiency of my gmail filter is 99% or better. That is a particularly uninformative statistic. Much more interesting would be

Google Operating System

2009-07-08 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
From http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/08/technology/google_chrome/index.htm or http://tinyurl.com/m2vf2p Google launches OS - calls out Microsoft NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Google Inc. is planning to hit Microsoft Corp. where it hurts by challenging the software giant's dominance

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-08 Thread Doug Pensinger
Mauro wrote: So, any early adopters planning on switching over when it ships? I'm willing to at least give it a hard drive partition. Me too. I refuse to use Explorer and would jump on a new OS from Google especially. Doug Chrome maru ___

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-08 Thread Rceeberger
On 7/8/2009 8:06:20 PM, Doug Pensinger (brig...@zo.com) wrote: Mauro wrote: So, any early adopters planning on switching over when it ships? I'm willing to at least give it a hard drive partition. Me too. I refuse to use Explorer and would jump on a new OS from Google especially.

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-08 Thread John Williams
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Rceebergerrceeber...@comcast.net wrote: I don't see how turning your PC into a dumb terminal could be considered an advance. I'm not storing my stuff on Google's servers. My impression is that the Chrome OS will allow you to avoid just what you say above. It