On 12/08/2009, at 9:28 AM, Max Battcher wrote:
Anyway, it's just a crazy thought experiment (that I created for use
in a short story I never wrote) and I doubt that it would be easy to
amend the Constitution to try it, but it might be something to play
with at local or state levels and see
On Aug 11, 2009, at 6:28 PM, Max Battcher wrote:
On 8/11/2009 18:53, Trent Shipley wrote:
More fundamental is his objection to the U.S. Government. In
effect, he
is saying that the U.S. system of government is inherently
illegitimate,
largely because it is run by politicians. By John
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 2:01 PM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.comwrote:
But I am
not my brother's keeper.
Seems odd that you would would say that, given that when Cain said, Am I my
brother's keeper? he had just murdered his brother to steal his
inheritance.
I thought you were *against
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Nick Arnettnick.arn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 2:01 PM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.com
wrote:
But I am
not my brother's keeper.
Seems odd that you would would say that, given that when Cain said, Am I my
brother's keeper? he had
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:24 AM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.comwrote:
It seems I have led you astray. I thought it was clear from the
context (which you removed above), but I meant that literally. Feel
free to replace it with I do not decide what others may or may not
do.
Ah, so
Never argue with a pedant over nomenclature. It wastes your time and
annoys the pedant.
--Lois Bujold
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On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:51 PM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.comwrote:
Never argue with a pedant over nomenclature. It wastes your time and
annoys the pedant.
I take it you are opposed to pedantically taking the meaning of literally
literally?
That was fun.
Nick
On Aug 10, 2009, at 8:40 PM, John Williams wrote:
The politician pretends to be acting
altruistically while still behaving in a self-serving manner.
But the politicians take your money by force and THEN give it to
the businesses.
John:
These two sentences are the problem with people
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Chris Frandsenlear...@mac.com wrote:
Most of the politicians that I have
personally met are not 'self-serving , rather they are making a great
effort to serve.
And they are good at tricking the naive into thinking that they are
behaving altruistically...
We
You are joking!
On Aug 11, 2009, at 11:22 AM, John Williams wrote:
The politicians have better PR!
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John Williams wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Chris Frandsenlear...@mac.com wrote:
Most of the politicians that I have
personally met are not 'self-serving , rather they are making a great
effort to serve.
And they are good at tricking the naive into thinking that they are
behaving
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Max Battcherm...@worldmaker.net wrote:
What a sad, cynical worldview you live in.
There's alway blissful fantasy to live in. Picture the livers in Nancy
Kress's _Beggars in Spain_ series...although if our politicians were
as honest as her donkeys, I might
Chris Frandsen wrote:
On Aug 10, 2009, at 8:40 PM, John Williams wrote:
The politician pretends to be acting
altruistically while still behaving in a self-serving manner.
But the politicians take your money by force and THEN give it to the
businesses.
John:
These two sentences are
On 8/11/2009 18:53, Trent Shipley wrote:
More fundamental is his objection to the U.S. Government. In effect, he
is saying that the U.S. system of government is inherently illegitimate,
largely because it is run by politicians. By John William's standards
ALL representative democracy is
Max Battcher wrote:
On 8/11/2009 18:53, Trent Shipley wrote:
More fundamental is his objection to the U.S. Government. In effect, he
is saying that the U.S. system of government is inherently illegitimate,
largely because it is run by politicians. By John William's standards
ALL
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Trent Shipleytship...@deru.com wrote:
The government of a sovereign
state takes taxes by force. Most of us believe that is right and
necessary. J.W. doesn't.
Where did I state this view?
By John William's standards
ALL representative democracy is
John;
I really dislike it when someone generalizes any group. The problem I
have is with the continuous rant from the right that Everyone knows
that ___ is incompetent(replace the blank with government,
public schools or teachers etc) Please note that big business is never
a
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Chris Frandsenlear...@mac.com wrote:
I suggest that rather rant in general that we begin a concerted effort to
limit spending on campaigns and disallow TV and radio ads by any
organization other than the candidates. Leave the newspapers and the
internet open
At 02:57 PM Monday 8/10/2009, Chris Frandsen wrote:
John;
I really dislike it when someone generalizes any group. The problem I
have is with the continuous rant from the right that Everyone knows
that ___ is incompetent(replace the blank with government,
public schools or teachers etc)
At 06:53 PM Monday 8/10/2009, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
On Aug 10, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
No, the problem with _them_ is that they are _all too_
competent (at getting money for themselves). Any number of people
have said (and editorial cartoonists have drawn cartoons
Sorry but the rant against Wall Street and Big Business in general has
never reached the level of the constant drum beat heard everywhere you
turn about lawyers, politicians, school systems and government
bureaucrats, etc. Of course the references to Government
bureaucrats was dialed back
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Bruce
Bostwicklihan161...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I'd go somewhat farther and say that the Wall Street culture
institutionalizes and rationalizes greed as a virtue, if not a sacrament.
(Greed is good. Greed works.)
One of the differences between a politician
It does not take long for the new set of politicians to start selling
out just like the old set. Cap and trade was supposed to raise
hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue by auctioning off the
emission credits, but now it seems that most will be given away for
free to whoever was best at
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