On 29/10/2008, at 9:10 AM, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
i hope so. i had such a lovely time down under. one family even
pulled me over on my bicycle and invited me to tea. they kept me
for a week and offered me a job when i was finished touring. there
were places where i was mistaken for
Where did you tour on your bicycle?
Charlie
Some Experience Of Human Powered Travel Maru
New Zed in '87 89. I hitched all over Aus and had all kinds of adventures.
I am thinking about building a bike and doing the South Island and Stewart
Island.
Jon
On 30/10/2008, at 7:20 AM, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
Where did you tour on your bicycle?
Charlie
Some Experience Of Human Powered Travel Maru
New Zed in '87 89. I hitched all over Aus and had all kinds of
adventures. I am thinking about building a bike and doing the South
Island and
Hi Jon and thank you for your kind words.
Australians are as xenophobic as Americans in a generalist
sense. It was
only with the recent change in government that an apology
for the treatment
of our Aboriginal people was being formulated. The apology
may have been
made by now, but if that
, at 5:41 PM, Ray Maree Ludenia wrote:
On Behalf Of Jon Louis Mann
Subject: Racial and Gender bigotry
Welcome to the list and to America, Maree! I have travelled
extensively in AUS and New Zed and would be curious to hear how
different racial and gender bias is in America, compared to down
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:05 AM, John Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I completely agree with you Julia. The more that I think about it, and the
more that I see in the world, indicates to me that Who You Know edges out
What You Know. This is nothing new, which is shown by the fact that the
On Behalf Of Jon Louis Mann
Subject: Racial and Gender bigotry
Welcome to the list and to America, Maree! I have travelled
extensively in AUS and New Zed and would be curious to hear how
different racial and gender bias is in America, compared to down under,
and how it is dealt
Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
Also please identify those who are traditional
social/fiscal conservatives not neo-cons, not
necessarily members of the religious right, not
necessarily even Republicans, but those who are
likely to frex appeal to the ordinary folks in
flyover country and to
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
snippage
i would not say that qualified is entirely irrelevant, but i would say that
experience is not always an advantage (for mccain/palin!~).
all i am saying is that bigotry exists...
jon
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
I agree with John and all the others who think that
the best man or woman
for the job is the best man or woman for the job!
If you believe that then you must also
On Oct 23, 2008, at 5:07 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:
(No, I'm not sure just how to do that. I think giving scholarships to
appropriate colleges based on *zip code* in the US will get around any
race-based restrictions one way or the other but will get more of the
minorities in the door with
fun to immerse myself into US
culture, so strangely familiar and yet different from Aussie culture.
In reply to the list discussion Re: Racial and Gender bigotry: I would like
to suggest that although education (in schools) is an important step in the
solution to the problem, it is only part
discussion Re: Racial
and Gender bigotry: I would like to suggest
that although education (in schools) is an
important step in the solution to the problem,
it is only part of the solution and should
not be seen as the only approach to be taken.
Cultural attitudes within the 'oppressed'
culture
On 25/10/2008, at 6:00 AM, Ray Maree Ludenia wrote:
I have been lurking on this mailing list for several months reading
the
posts and discussing the ideas with my husband (a list member for many
years, albeit one who hasn't posted in a while).
Muahahaha. You have been assimilated.
Hi
explain to me, wayne, why not being an expert on
qualified hispanic women
disqualifies me from having an opinion that hispanic
women are
underrepresented in government? are either you or
john experts? i very
clearly stated in the very first post i made on this
topic that i was
I agree with John and all the others who think that
the best man or woman
for the job is the best man or woman for the job!
If you believe that then you must also believe either
a) white men are remarkably better at important jobs
than other people, or
b) there is a distinct bias
OK, I'd love to hear from anyone who's been contributing to this thread:
List *up to* three female Hispanic politicians, explaining to me why each
would make a good vice-presidential candidate. If you only pick one,
that's fine. Throwing URLs around right and left is providing
information,
or
c) There is a bias against
i) People who did not go to an 'elite' school
or university
ii) People who come from a 'lower class'
demographic
iii) People who have not had the same economic, cultural
and social
advantages as others
I could go on.
Not every non-white is
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
I agree with John and all the others who think that
the best man or woman
for the job is the best man or woman for the job!
If you believe that then you must also believe either
a) white men are remarkably better at important jobs
than other
i absolutely do believe there is a distinct bias
against people who aren't white men for important jobs
in government. do you deny it?
i also believe something should be done about it.
do you believe that white men are remarkably better at
important jobs than other people?
jon
I
OK, I'd love to hear from anyone who's been
contributing to this thread:
List *up to* three female Hispanic politicians, explaining
to me why each
would make a good vice-presidential candidate. If you only
pick one,
that's fine. Throwing URLs around right and left is
providing
On Oct 23, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
I agree with John and all the others who think that
the best man or woman
for the job is the best man or woman for the job!
If you believe that then you must also believe either
a) white men are remarkably better at important jobs
than
Qualified is irrelevant. We hear a lot of talk
on both sides of the
campaign about qualifications for the Presidency. What
would those be? Is
there an apprenticeship for the job? Is it like moving from
journeyman to master electrician?
ALL Presidents have been unqualified on Inaugural Day,
1) I believe an inequity exists that grants
disproportionate advantage to white males
in this country's key leadership positions.
2) I believe that one of the primary mechanisms
driving that inequity is an educational system
that, historically, has favored wealthy upper
class
Julia Thompson wrote:
OK, I'd love to hear from anyone who's been contributing to this thread:
List *up to* three female Hispanic politicians, explaining to me why each
would make a good vice-presidential candidate. If you only pick one,
that's fine. Throwing URLs around right and left is
On 23 Oct 2008, at 22:55, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
I agree with John and all the others who think that
the best man or woman
for the job is the best man or woman for the job!
If you believe that then you must also believe either
a) white men are remarkably better at important jobs
than other
At 05:03 PM Thursday 10/23/2008, Julia Thompson wrote:
OK, I'd love to hear from anyone who's been contributing to this thread:
List *up to* three female Hispanic politicians, explaining to me why each
would make a good vice-presidential candidate. If you only pick one,
that's fine. Throwing
At 05:20 PM Thursday 10/23/2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
whatever is done to favor minorities is bound to be resented by
certain elements in the white community..
As well as all the other minorities who are not so favored.
. . . ronn! :)
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