On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:21 PM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
I would have liked to see an example of Bush's deregulation.
Unfortunately, Bush was largely responsible for increasing government
spending and government interference. I forgot where I heard it, but
the joke is that Bush
At 10:51 AM Saturday 11/15/2008, Nick Arnett wrote:
Only the
hardest-hearted would argue that people choose to have medical problems.
Or those doctors who when they can't find a clear answer in five
minutes* announce that the problem is all in the patient's head and
hand out
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Ronn! Blankenship
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or those doctors who when they can't find a clear answer in five
minutes* announce that the problem is all in the patient's head ...
Yeah, that's what they said about Dave Land's brain tumor -- it was all in
his
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's the thinking that gave us the SL collapses, the Keating
Five, the sub-prime crisis, etc.
Actually, bad government regulation contributed to all of those, Dems and Reps
both. And no one has consistently predicted such
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:55 AM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Actually, bad government regulation contributed to all of those, Dems and
Reps
both. And no one has consistently predicted such things. You can't
preempt what you can't predict.
There have been many warnings and
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Don't let the facts get in the
way of a good piece of fiction!
what facts? after all this back and forth are you still in denial thbush
administration was largely responsible for the subprime mortgage crisis?
That
On 11/15/2008 11:55:20 AM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Did you make any posts predicting the housing crisis before, say,
2004?
I don't recall having posted about this onlist, but it has been on my mind
for a few years as being a serious problem w/consequences.
What got me
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Jon Louis Mann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't let the facts get in the
way of a good piece of fiction!
what facts? after all this back and forth are you still in denial thbush
administration was largely responsible for the subprime mortgage crisis?
LOL.
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:55 AM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
There have been many warnings and predictions;
That is a problem!
consistency in predictions is not a precondition for learning and acting.
Of
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/15/2008 11:55:20 AM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Did you make any posts predicting the housing crisis before, say,
2004?
I don't recall having posted about this onlist, but it has been on my mind
for a
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Jon Louis Mann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so you admit you don't have any facts, AND that the bush administration
played a role in the subprime mortgage crisis...
Surely you can give a single example to support your claim that Bush
deregulation was responsible
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:34 PM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Of course it is! All sorts of people predict all sorts of things. The
only ones worth listening to are the ones who have a track record of
being consistently right.
If that were true, no market research company would be
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:34 PM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Of course it is! All sorts of people predict all sorts of things. The
only ones worth listening to are the ones who have a track record of
being
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 1:40 PM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
You want a pissing contest, do you?
Hardly. That's not an accurate description of my invitation to you.
Nick
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John Williams wrote:
Did you make any posts predicting the housing crisis before, say,
2004?
I did. Unfortunately, I can't find the post where I predicted it.
But I always predict disasters, so it's not surprising that
sometimes I'm right.
Cassandra Monteiro
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 1:40 PM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
You want a pissing contest, do you?
Hardly. That's not an accurate description of my invitation to you.
I know, you wanted to compete on credentials
On 11/15/2008 2:40:44 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 11/15/2008 11:55:20 AM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
Did you make any posts predicting the housing crisis before, say,
2004?
I
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then, one must also consider that I have no expertise in this subject, just
some observations based on what I know from the news and the experiences of
people I know. I try not to start such a conversation, laden with
At 06:54 PM Saturday 11/15/2008, Rceeberger wrote:
It is such cynical and sarcastic statements that makes you appear to run
Asshole as a native app.
I've told people that in the same way Micro$oft claimed IE is an
integral part of Windows that cannot be removed or disabled without
rendering
At 06:03 PM Saturday 11/15/2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
the bush administration is largely responsible
for the current economic meltdown.
Things that happened under the Bush administration may have served
the function of the straw that broke the camel's back wrt the
current situation, but it
At 05:48 PM Saturday 11/15/2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
Did you make any posts predicting the
housing crisis before, say, 2004?
I did. Unfortunately, I can't find the post
where I predicted it. But I always predict
disasters, so it's not surprising that
sometimes I'm right.
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Ronn! Blankenship
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
History and myth also show that the one thing which is much worse
than a prognosticator whose predictions are unreliable is one whose
predictions are 100% accurate.
A member of Congress once pointed that out to
Surely you can give a single example to support your claim that Bush
deregulation was responsible for the subprime mortgage crisis.
It's fairly obvious it all began with private investment banks going
public in the 1980's and shifting liabilities onto shareholders.
Since then it's been a
On 11/15/2008 7:50:42 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Then, one must also consider that I have no expertise in this
subject, just
some observations based on what I know from the news and the experiences
of
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is that subjects where the volume of knowledge is large and my own
understanding is limited are not subjects where I pretend to have an opinion
that can be taken as fact,
As I said, I got it in number 1.
So.you are
On 11/15/2008 10:35:11 PM, Euan Ritchie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Surely you can give a single example to support your claim that Bush
deregulation was responsible for the subprime mortgage crisis.
It's fairly obvious it all began with private investment banks going
public in the 1980's
On 11/15/2008 11:00:14 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It is that subjects where the volume of knowledge is large and my
own
understanding is limited are not subjects where I pretend to have an
opinion
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since market information is not filtered through the government but through
the market itself, exactly how does that work?
Exactly how does what work? Government regulation? Not very well.
I'm sure that is all quite true, but I think it begins earlier.
(Please correct me if I get the facts wrong here)
It's not just about home mortgages, it just happens that's the bubble
that revealed the weakness - if not for that some other, all multiple,
markets would have bubbled and burst at
Since market information is not filtered through the government but through
the market itself, exactly how does that work?
Exactly how does what work? Government regulation? Not very well.
But evidently better than none, or as it was - the pretence of self
regulation.
Investment managers
On 11/15/2008 11:43:53 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Since market information is not filtered through the government
but through
the market itself, exactly how does that work?
Exactly how does what
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which minions, and what deregulation are you referring to?
i told you, i'm not playing this game any more,
No game to play, just a simple question to answer. The statement that
Bush's deregulation was responsible for the
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i've given you all the answer you are going to get,
Okay. So we can agree that there are no examples of Bush's
deregulation that were responsible for the subprime mortgage crisis.
I would have liked to see an example of
At 05:57 PM Friday 11/14/2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
i've given you all the answer you are going to get, so pick all the
nits you wish. if you can't even attempt to answer ANY of my
questions, then why don't you tell me who or what you think led to
the subprime mortgage crisis.
Greed.
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
His policies of lowering taxes for the rich, and especially deregulation
were to blame. In fact, I can't think of a single ...
...act of deregulation from Bush that was responsible for the
subprime mortgage crisis?
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