Re: Trickle down vrs trickle up economics

2003-07-22 Thread Kevin Tarr
5) Keynsian theory has fallen out of favor, being relegated to a possible response to serious recession or depression. My Econ 101 back in the late 1980s and popular reporting on economics over more than the last twenty years emphasize the importance of Hayak-Freedman neo-liberal economic

Re: Trickle down vrs trickle up economics

2003-07-22 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5) Keynsian theory has fallen out of favor, being relegated to a possible response to serious recession or depression. My Econ 101 back in the late 1980s and popular reporting on economics over more than the last twenty years emphasize the

Re: Trickle down vrs trickle up economics

2003-07-22 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jan Coffey wrote: So get on board with the majority in forign policy and focus on the facts of a history we have with econmoics. Who will do this? Hmmm, why get on board a sinking ship? http://www.pollingreport.com/BushFav.htm Doug ___

Re: Trickle down vrs trickle up economics

2003-07-21 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 11:32 PM 7/20/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 09:54:24PM -0400, Kevin Tarr wrote: What I'm trying to come around to: trickle up for good or evil has been in place seventy years, In different degrees. The democrats tend to tilt it towards more progressive taxation, and the

Re: Trickle down vrs trickle up economics

2003-07-21 Thread Trent Shipley
On Sunday 2003-07-20 18:54, Kevin Tarr wrote: From: Trent Shipley In the US a huge problem with all 'trickle up' policies is that they require legislative intervention. Laizie Faire (sp?) economic systems stabilize with huge income and wealth disparities. In the US a combination of

Re: Trickle down vrs trickle up economics

2003-07-21 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 03:15:47AM -0700, Trent Shipley wrote: The real problem with share the wealth, trickle up programs, besides the fact that it might be immoral to tax the rich, is that they slow growth. Do you have any data to support this? Because the data I've seen shows exactly the

Re: Trickle down vrs trickle up economics

2003-07-21 Thread Trent Shipley
On Monday 2003-07-21 03:57, Erik Reuter wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 03:15:47AM -0700, Trent Shipley wrote: The real problem with share the wealth, trickle up programs, besides the fact that it might be immoral to tax the rich, is that they slow growth. Do you have any data to support

Re: Trickle down vrs trickle up economics

2003-07-21 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, periods leaning more to trickle down have increased the gap between rich and poor more than have the trickle up leaning periods. There you go. That is exactly what needs to be expressed and isn't. At least not as loud as it should. Instead

Re: Trickle down vrs trickle up economics

2003-07-20 Thread Trent Shipley
On Sunday 2003-07-20 14:36, Robert J. Chassell wrote: trickle down: more money to the rich The argument for giving more money to the rich than to the poor is that the rich save more. (That is to say, they save a higher portion of additional income; in

Re: Trickle down vrs trickle up economics

2003-07-20 Thread Kevin Tarr
From: Trent Shipley In the US a huge problem with all 'trickle up' policies is that they require legislative intervention. Laizie Faire (sp?) economic systems stabilize with huge income and wealth disparities. In the US a combination of social atomization (probably a result of

Re: Trickle down vrs trickle up economics

2003-07-20 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 09:36:11PM +, Robert J. Chassell wrote: Hence, the government gets `more bang for the buck' by giving money to the poor than the rich. Yes, and if you look at GDP growth, it is greater with trickle up than trickle down. The counter argument is that a person with

Re: Trickle down vrs trickle up economics

2003-07-20 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 09:54:24PM -0400, Kevin Tarr wrote: What I'm trying to come around to: trickle up for good or evil has been in place seventy years, In different degrees. The democrats tend to tilt it towards more progressive taxation, and the Republicans toward less progressive