Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-21 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 20, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, John Williams wrote: Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also like the one that goes One has two ears and one mouth, and should use them in that proportion. Don't forget the ten typing fingers. Vs. 2 eyes for

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-21 Thread Julia Thompson
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote: On Oct 20, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, John Williams wrote: Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also like the one that goes One has two ears and one mouth, and should use them in that proportion. Don't forget

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-21 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 21, 2008, at 12:34 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote: On Oct 20, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, John Williams wrote: Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also like the one that goes One has two ears and one mouth, and

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-20 Thread John Williams
Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also like the one that goes One has two ears and one mouth, and should use them in that proportion. Don't forget the ten typing fingers. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-20 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, John Williams wrote: Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also like the one that goes One has two ears and one mouth, and should use them in that proportion. Don't forget the ten typing fingers. Vs. 2 eyes for reading. Hm Julia

Re: Monotonous posting

2008-10-20 Thread Olin Elliott
What will cause people to leave this list is trolls who have nothing better to do than exhibit their asperger's syndrome... jon Just for the record, I have Asperger's, and I don't act like a Troll (usually). Bad choice of aspersions there. Olin - Original Message - From: Jon

RE: Monotonous posting

2008-10-20 Thread Pat Mathews
Ditto. Grrr... is a Billy Goat Gruff walking on MY bridge? http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Monotonous posting Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:43:02 -0700 What will cause people to leave this list is trolls who have nothing

Re: Monotonous posting

2008-10-20 Thread William T Goodall
On 21 Oct 2008, at 00:04, Jon Louis Mann wrote: What will cause people to leave this list is trolls who have nothing better to do than exhibit their asperger's syndrome... jon Just for the record, I have Asperger's, and I don't act like a Troll (usually). Bad choice of aspersions there.

Re: Monotonous posting

2008-10-20 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote: What will cause people to leave this list is trolls who have nothing better to do than exhibit their asperger's syndrome... jon Just for the record, I have Asperger's, and I don't act like a Troll (usually). Bad choice of aspersions there.

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 19 Oct 2008, at 12:04, Jon Louis Mann wrote: It's been very quiet here since the thought police manifesto. Obvious Maru what manifesto? oblivious maru... On 20 Aug 2008, at 15:12, Nick Arnett wrote: I don't think we've ever moderated anybody for frequent off-topic posting, but I'm

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread David Hobby
William T Goodall wrote: On 19 Oct 2008, at 12:04, Jon Louis Mann wrote: It's been very quiet here since the thought police manifesto. ... On 20 Aug 2008, at 15:12, Nick Arnett wrote: I don't think we've ever moderated anybody for frequent off-topic posting, but I'm growing increasingly

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Dave Land
William, Nick never threatened to censor you, however much you wish to interpret his email that way. He expressed concern that your posts were a distraction and offensive to some who might otherwise participate Seems he was right. Maybe the posts have dropped off because people got so damn sick

Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker (was Re: monotonous posting)

2008-10-19 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 1:05 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Indicating that my fears that Nick's threats of censorship would discourage posting were fully justified. There's a lot I'd LIKE to say in response, but I'll just let the cold, hard facts -- the numbers -- tell the

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Olin Elliott
- From: Dave Landmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussionmailto:brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 2:15 PM Subject: Re: monotonous posting William, Nick never threatened to censor you, however much you wish to interpret his email that way. He

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Lance A. Brown
Olin Elliott said the following on 10/19/2008 5:59 PM: Or maybe it was because each one of his monotonous posts elicit dozens of responses from people telling him how monotonous and irritating he is. I find everyone's responses to William, and the energy that goes into villainizing him to

Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker (was Re: monotonous posting)

2008-10-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 19 Oct 2008, at 22:48, Nick Arnett wrote: During the weeks following my post, we had abnormally high activity -- more than two standard deviations from the mean. One of those weeks, we were at more than five standard deviations above the mean. Obviously controversy always causes a

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Oct 2008, at 00:01, Lance A. Brown wrote: Olin Elliott said the following on 10/19/2008 5:59 PM: Or maybe it was because each one of his monotonous posts elicit dozens of responses from people telling him how monotonous and irritating he is. I find everyone's responses to William,

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 19 Oct 2008, at 22:15, Dave Land wrote: William, Nick never threatened to censor you, however much you wish to interpret his email that way. He expressed concern that your posts were a distraction and offensive to some who might otherwise participate Seems he was right. Maybe the

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 19 Oct 2008, at 22:59, Olin Elliott wrote: Maybe the posts have dropped off because people got so damn sick of your monotonous posts. Or maybe it was because each one of his monotonous posts elicit dozens of responses from people telling him how monotonous and irritating he is.

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008, Lance A. Brown wrote: Olin Elliott said the following on 10/19/2008 5:59 PM: Or maybe it was because each one of his monotonous posts elicit dozens of responses from people telling him how monotonous and irritating he is. I find everyone's responses to William, and

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Charlie Bell
On 20/10/2008, at 10:50 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: Sometimes some folks have problem spotting the troll. Yep. Sneaky at times, them trolls. And there's a subtle difference between someone trolling purely maliciously, and someone yanking a chain in order to hold a mirror up to someone else's

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
Julia Thompson wrote: That's just me. And, well, I have an underdeveloped sense of tact; at least 2/3 of whatever might be perceived as tact in me is actually my keeping my mouth shut when in doubt. (If you do that in person, but stay attentive to the conversation, you may end up with a

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Charlie Bell
On 20/10/2008, at 11:11 AM, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: I've always loved the quote from Abraham Lincoln: Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. If it was indeed Lincoln that penned it. It's also been attributed to Mark Twain, Oscar Wilde and a

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 4:32 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: So my posts obviously didn't contribute to that decline since I stopped making them. That leaves Nick's threats of censorship as an explanation. And since there was no decline, but rather an extremely unusual

Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker (was Re: monotonous posting)

2008-10-19 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 4:24 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On 19 Oct 2008, at 22:48, Nick Arnett wrote: During the weeks following my post, we had abnormally high activity -- more than two standard deviations from the mean. One of those weeks, we were at more than

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Oct 2008, at 01:51, Nick Arnett wrote: On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 4:32 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So my posts obviously didn't contribute to that decline since I stopped making them. That leaves Nick's threats of censorship as an explanation. And since there was

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Lance A. Brown
William T Goodall said the following on 10/19/2008 7:27 PM: First rule of dealing with trolls: Don't Feed The Troll. That's a very sound policy I've been following for years. Don't post in a thread you don't like, especially to complain that you don't like it. Did I say I didn't like

Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker (was Re: monotonous posting)

2008-10-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Oct 2008, at 02:05, Nick Arnett wrote: On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 4:24 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, and this is my preference, just drop it. You are completely wrong; the numbers don't lie. Of course you prefer not be shown to be wrong. I think it's very clear

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Oct 2008, at 02:51, Lance A. Brown wrote: William T Goodall said the following on 10/19/2008 7:27 PM: First rule of dealing with trolls: Don't Feed The Troll. That's a very sound policy I've been following for years. Don't post in a thread you don't like, especially to complain that