Re: Polarization

2008-11-16 Thread Wayne Eddy
Your two previous links did not give an example of how Bush deregulated anything that may have lead to the subprime mortgage crisis. The youtube video you listed does not give any examples of deregulation either. I don't think that word means what you think it means. OK, *there's* the proof

Re: Polarization

2008-11-15 Thread Julia Thompson
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, John Williams wrote: Your two previous links did not give an example of how Bush deregulated anything that may have lead to the subprime mortgage crisis. The youtube video you listed does not give any examples of deregulation either. I don't think that word means what

Re: Polarization

2008-11-14 Thread Nick Arnett
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:16 PM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What gives you the right to be THAT cynical? No doubt the politicians will take that, too. Nah. First Amendment conflict -- tt is the church's job

Re: Polarization

2008-11-14 Thread John Williams
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah. First Amendment conflict -- tt is the church's job to take away cynicism. I'd probably be less cynical if I were tax-exempt like the churches. ___

Re: Polarization

2008-11-14 Thread Nick Arnett
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:30 AM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah. First Amendment conflict -- tt is the church's job to take away cynicism. I'd probably be less cynical if I were tax-exempt like the churches.

Re: polarization

2008-11-13 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 10:07 PM Wednesday 11/12/2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote: it just might work, but i still prefer european style socialism. But not everyone agrees with you in that preference. . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: polarization

2008-11-13 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
You are The Boss... which team would you hire? Many times my answer to that question would be: E. None of the Above. but that is not one of the two choices provided. (As some wag once said and many have repeated since, Wanting to be President ought to immediately and permanently

Re: polarization

2008-11-13 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:33 PM Wednesday 11/12/2008, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Nov 12, 2008, at 8:18 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: i think there is a difference in the bitterness on the left and the venom on the right. both sides feel they are right, but the hate from the right is based on fear, hate and greed,

Re: polarization

2008-11-13 Thread Claes Wallin
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Though the 444 days beginning on 4 Nov 79 and the debacle of Desert One certainly contributed. As well as some of the economic things which as always may or may not have been in whoever is the current President's control but for which he usually gets the blame. It

Re: Polarization

2008-11-13 Thread John Williams
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bush deserves most of the blame for the massive deregulation after his re-election. What deregulation would that be? the left is very different from the right, ronn. the big money controlling their discourse

Re: Polarization

2008-11-13 Thread John Williams
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bush deserves most of the blame for the massive deregulation after his re-election. What deregulation would that be? take your pick, williams, SInce there was little relevant deregulation initiated by Bush, I'm not

Re: Polarization

2008-11-13 Thread John Williams
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There you go again, making stuff up. What did I make up? I asked you for an example of Bush deregulation that you said caused the subprime crisis. You appear unable to provide a single example.

Re: Polarization

2008-11-13 Thread John Williams
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there you go again, still making stuff up. i gave you two links, here is another that you won't even have to read: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CaOrlFxEZcfeature=related Your two previous links did not give an

Re: Polarization

2008-11-13 Thread Nick Arnett
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:03 PM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Dollars are more important than ideology. Both Dems and Reps were responsible for wasting a lot of my dollars. Their ideologies are irrelevant, since they are only a tool used to get elected. What gives you the right to

Re: Polarization

2008-11-13 Thread John Williams
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What gives you the right to be THAT cynical? No doubt the politicians will take that, too. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: polarization

2008-11-12 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 12, 2008, at 8:18 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: i think there is a difference in the bitterness on the left and the venom on the right. both sides feel they are right, but the hate from the right is based on fear, hate and greed, while the left is motivated by idealism, and what

Re: polarization

2008-11-12 Thread xponentrob
- Original Message - From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:33 PM Subject: Re: polarization On Nov 12, 2008, at 8:18 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: i think there is a difference

Re: polarization

2008-11-12 Thread Lance A. Brown
Warren Ockrassa said the following on 11/12/2008 10:33 PM: To me it seems that there's no real reason, if you're so motivated, to continue attacking the GOP. It's in the middle of its own self- destruction. A better approach might be to talk to the moderates, the centrist Republicans,