Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-20 Thread Leonard Matusik
WHOOPS; sorry wrong post. I was activly ignoring this thread. Leonard Matusik [EMAIL PROTECTED] "A bad thing done for a good cause is still a bad thing. It's why so few people slap their political opponents. That, and because slapping looks so silly." - Randy Cohen. ___

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-20 Thread Alberto Monteiro
William T Goodall wrote: > >> I must be the most evil person in the list, because I am christian, >> communist, >> heavy metal fan and D&D player. > > Don't leave out Linux user! That blasphemy could get you burned at > the stake in Redmond :) > Using Linux is part of the commie stuff. Communists e

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-20 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Jun 2005, at 3:52 am, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Damon Agretto wrote: Yeah, cause we all REALLY know it was Dungeons & Dragons that drove him to do it... I must be the most evil person in the list, because I am christian, communist, heavy metal fan and D&D player. Don't leave o

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-19 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jun 19, 2005, at 7:52 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: I must be the most evil person in the list, because I am christian, communist, heavy metal fan and D&D player. And a furriner. And prob'ly a turr'rist. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ C

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-19 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Damon Agretto wrote: > > Yeah, cause we all REALLY know it was Dungeons & Dragons that drove him to > do it... > I must be the most evil person in the list, because I am christian, communist, heavy metal fan and D&D player. Evil Alberto ___ http://www.m

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-19 Thread Julia Thompson
Warren Ockrassa wrote: Religious Zealots Murder Each Other == "A Romanian nun has died after being bound to a cross, gagged and left alone for three days in a cold room in a convent, Romanian police have said. "Members of the convent in north-west Romania claim Maricica Irina Cornici was p

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-19 Thread Warren Ockrassa
Religious Zealots Murder Each Other == "A Romanian nun has died after being bound to a cross, gagged and left alone for three days in a cold room in a convent, Romanian police have said. "Members of the convent in north-west Romania claim Maricica Irina Cornici was possessed and that the cr

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-19 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jun 18, 2005, at 11:24 PM, KZK wrote: I was just pointing out that Mr. Ockrassa's Slanderous remarks are no different from pres. Bush and other Lying, weaseling Rightwing leaders accuse atheists of being the the cause of the holocaust. How much wind would it take from your sails to know I'

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-19 Thread Damon Agretto
The question is whether we continue to support the annoying tendency of certain posters to assert that it was this insane individual's religious zealotry that caused him to kill his children, when it is at least as likely that his insanity drove him to both his religious zealotry and the murd

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-19 Thread Dave Land
On Jun 18, 2005, at 11:24 PM, KZK wrote: William T Goodall wrote: Are you a new troll or an old troll with a new address? I must be a new troll. Lol. I was just pointing out that Mr. Ockrassa's Slanderous remarks are no different from pres. Bush and other Lying, weaseling Rightwing leaders

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-19 Thread Dave Land
On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:05 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: McMocracy :-) Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 19 Jun 2005, at 6:39 pm, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 10:16 AM Sunday 6/19/2005, Nick Arnett wrote: On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:16:10 -0700, Warren Ockrassa wrote > Naturally; but then, we *all* believe our opinions to be correct. If > we felt otherwise, we would not hold those opinions. But

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-19 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:16 AM Sunday 6/19/2005, Nick Arnett wrote: On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:16:10 -0700, Warren Ockrassa wrote > Naturally; but then, we *all* believe our opinions to be correct. If > we felt otherwise, we would not hold those opinions. But sometimes we forget that they are *only* opinions, unfortu

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-19 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:16:10 -0700, Warren Ockrassa wrote > Naturally; but then, we *all* believe our opinions to be correct. If > we felt otherwise, we would not hold those opinions. But sometimes we forget that they are *only* opinions, unfortunately. Nick -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vo

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-19 Thread KZK
William T Goodall wrote: On 18 Jun 2005, at 8:51 pm, KZK wrote: Tens of millions killed by Indian (continental) cult 'thugees'. Hundreds of millions killed by roman catholic church. Story at eleven. Are you a new troll or an old troll with a new address? I must be a new troll. Lol. I

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread Julia Thompson
William T Goodall wrote: On 18 Jun 2005, at 8:51 pm, KZK wrote: Tens of millions killed by Indian (continental) cult 'thugees'. Hundreds of millions killed by roman catholic church. Story at eleven. Are you a new troll or an old troll with a new address? Do you want to know badly enoug

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread William T Goodall
On 18 Jun 2005, at 8:51 pm, KZK wrote: Tens of millions killed by Indian (continental) cult 'thugees'. Hundreds of millions killed by roman catholic church. Story at eleven. Are you a new troll or an old troll with a new address? -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : htt

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread William T Goodall
On 18 Jun 2005, at 11:33 pm, Horn, John wrote: Behalf Of William T Goodall Another feature is the holy text: Bible, Mein Kampf, Das Kapital, Koran. Again, no such text exists for capitalism or democracy. What about Adam Smith's "The Wealth of Nations"? That's clearly a holy text of ca

RE: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread Horn, John
> Behalf Of William T Goodall > > Another feature is the holy text: Bible, Mein Kampf, Das Kapital, > Koran. Again, no such text exists for capitalism or democracy. What about Adam Smith's "The Wealth of Nations"? That's clearly a holy text of capitalism. And Alexis de Tocqueville's "Democracy

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread KZK
Tens of millions killed by Indian (continental) cult 'thugees'. Hundreds of millions killed by roman catholic church. Story at eleven. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread William T Goodall
On 18 Jun 2005, at 7:45 pm, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 11:19 AM, William T Goodall wrote: You're stretching an actual definition into a metaphor. The features I listed (plus several others) are the ways anthropologists and theologians identify religions as opposed to oth

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jun 18, 2005, at 11:19 AM, William T Goodall wrote: You're stretching an actual definition into a metaphor. The features I listed (plus several others) are the ways anthropologists and theologians identify religions as opposed to other kinds of organisations like zaibatsu or bowling leagues

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread William T Goodall
On 18 Jun 2005, at 6:05 pm, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 9:48 AM, William T Goodall wrote: One of these identifying features is a prophetic figure whose revelations form the basis of the religion. Such figures include Jesus, Hitler, Buddha, Marx. No corresponding individual

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread William T Goodall
On 18 Jun 2005, at 6:16 pm, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: And how rational is it to pursue religion as being "the" evil in the universe? Doesn't such behavior presume that the *atheistic* group are The Ones Who Possess The Truth? Well, of

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jun 18, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: And how rational is it to pursue religion as being "the" evil in the universe? Doesn't such behavior presume that the *atheistic* group are The Ones Who Possess The Truth? Well, of course. That goes without saying. But if you have any dou

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jun 18, 2005, at 9:48 AM, William T Goodall wrote: One of these identifying features is a prophetic figure whose revelations form the basis of the religion. Such figures include Jesus, Hitler, Buddha, Marx. No corresponding individual exists for capitalism or democracy. George Washington

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread William T Goodall
On 18 Jun 2005, at 4:20 pm, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: "William T Goodall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Religious zealot slaughters children Stalinism and Nazis

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:39 AM Saturday 6/18/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 6:37 AM, William T Goodall wrote: Stalinism and Nazism are both quasi-religions. Thanks for giving more evidence of the evil of religion. I wasn't going to mention them...yet. Irrational beliefs aren't restricted to be

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jun 18, 2005, at 6:37 AM, William T Goodall wrote: Stalinism and Nazism are both quasi-religions. Thanks for giving more evidence of the evil of religion. I wasn't going to mention them...yet. Irrational beliefs aren't restricted to belief in supernatural ghoulies, ghosties and gods after

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "William T Goodall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Religious zealot slaughters children > > Stalinism and Nazism are both quasi-religions. Capitalism and D

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread William T Goodall
On 18 Jun 2005, at 10:58 am, Warren Ockrassa wrote: Millions Killed by Atheist Governments "Lenin and Stalin had already killed more than 12 million enemies of the state before Hitler and the Nazis took power in 1933." Stalinism and Nazism are both quasi-religions. Thanks for giving more

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread Warren Ockrassa
Millions Killed by Atheist Governments == "Tiananmen Square, the symbolic political heart of China, was open to the public. But extra carloads of police watched tourists on the vast plaza, where weeks of student-led demonstrations that drew tens of thousands ended in a military attack 16 y

Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread William T Goodall
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4106038.stm "US father murdered nine children Wesson is said to have exerted tyrannical control over his family A US court has convicted a man of killing nine of his children, many of whom he had fathered through incest. Marcus Wesson, a 58-year-old re