RE: Teaching multiple models of science

2008-08-31 Thread Dan M
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin B. O'Brien Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:57 PM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: Teaching multiple models of science The problem with teaching creationism

Re: Teaching multiple models of science

2008-08-31 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
Dan M wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin B. O'Brien Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:57 PM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: Teaching multiple models of science The problem with teaching

Re: Teaching multiple models of science

2008-08-31 Thread William T Goodall
On 31 Aug 2008, at 19:13, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: Dan M wrote: I wouldn't put it that way, because there are a wealth of possible future tests. And theories that have been falsified are still taught in science class...in fact most physics that is being taught has been

Re: Teaching multiple models of science

2008-08-31 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 01:40 PM Sunday 8/31/2008, William T Goodall wrote: On 31 Aug 2008, at 19:13, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: Dan M wrote: I wouldn't put it that way, because there are a wealth of possible future tests. And theories that have been falsified are still taught in science class...in fact

Re: Teaching multiple models of science

2008-08-31 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 01:40 PM Sunday 8/31/2008, William T Goodall wrote: I was taught that 22/7 was a handy approximation for pi but I wasn't taught that it was pi. Just like those things sold at McDonald's and similar fast food places may be handy but are at best approximations of pie. Caution: Filling

Re: Teaching multiple models of science

2008-08-31 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
William T Goodall wrote: On 31 Aug 2008, at 19:13, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: In a class that is about how science develops, that could well make sense. I taught a class some years ago on History of Science, and that is something I tried to bring into it. But I would (and did) insist that

Teaching multiple models of science

2008-08-30 Thread Dan M
Not in school, and not in science class. In comparative religion, maybe, but it's hard enough to teach good science without adding a load of creation myths to the course. And that's the issue - Both sides? No - because if they allow both sides they have to allow ALL sides. That means

Re: Teaching multiple models of science

2008-08-30 Thread Jon Louis Mann
a course that seriously evaluated creation science, the vaccine-autism correlation, astrology, and Gaianism as theories of science alongside biology, chemistry, and physics would be worthwhile in teaching what science Dan M. Those fundamentalists are so sure you know the mind of God

RE: Teaching multiple models of science

2008-08-30 Thread Dan M
Those fundamentalists are so sure you know the mind of God they would never allow such a course, if they could stop it... jon In the public school, of course not. It doesn't belong there; the nature of the mind of God in inherently a theological question. But, Sunday school is a

Re: Teaching multiple models of science

2008-08-30 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
Dan M wrote: Not in school, and not in science class. In comparative religion, maybe, but it's hard enough to teach good science without adding a load of creation myths to the course. And that's the issue - Both sides? No - because if they allow both sides they have to allow ALL sides. That