Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-09 Thread The Fool
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:56 PM 4/3/2003 +1000 Russell Chapman wrote: Couldn't evil be defined as something that causes net loss/pain/cost to the larger community, for no benefit other than gratification on the part of the transgressor? It seems to me that this

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-09 Thread The Fool
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:32 PM 4/1/2003 -0500 The Fool wrote: http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/okeefe032603.html I thought you believed in charity and freedom of speech. Cutting through the spin of this article, these groups are going to provide much-needed aid

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 03:03 PM 4/3/2003 +1000 Russell Chapman wrote: John D. Giorgis wrote: At 01:56 PM 4/3/2003 +1000 Russell Chapman wrote: Couldn't evil be defined as something that causes net loss/pain/cost to the larger community, for no benefit other than gratification on the part of the transgressor? It

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-03 Thread William T Goodall
On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 01:25 pm, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 03:03 PM 4/3/2003 +1000 Russell Chapman wrote: John D. Giorgis wrote: At 01:56 PM 4/3/2003 +1000 Russell Chapman wrote: Couldn't evil be defined as something that causes net loss/pain/cost to the larger community, for no

RE: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-03 Thread Reggie Bautista
JMH wrote: Evil is like beauty or great art: I know it when I see it. You know it when you see it, but *why* do you know it when you see it? Is it somehow innate or is because you grew up in a culture suffused with Judeo-Christian values? Does our sense of right and wrong, or good and evil,

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-03 Thread Bryon Daly
William T Goodall wrote: On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 07:36 pm, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Apr 2003 at 16:44, William T Goodall wrote: On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 01:24 pm, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 12:19 PM 4/2/2003 +0100 William T Goodall wrote: Isn't religion just so

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-03 Thread William T Goodall
On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 08:53 pm, Bryon Daly wrote: Haven't I seen this conversation before? Ah, now I remember! ... Perhaps we should call it a draw? No, we shouldn't :-} -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog :

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread William T Goodall
On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 12:19 am, The Fool wrote: From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/okeefe032603.html --- Christ demanded: But those mine enemies, which would not that I should

RE: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: William T Goodall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 2 april 2003 13:20 Aan: Killer Bs Discussion Onderwerp: Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike Isn't religion just so very very evil? I think it should be banned. NO

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 12:19 PM 4/2/2003 +0100 William T Goodall wrote: Isn't religion just so very very evil? I think it should be banned. That sounds like your religion. JDG - What is evil without religion? ___ John D. Giorgis - [EMAIL

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread William T Goodall
On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 01:24 pm, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 12:19 PM 4/2/2003 +0100 William T Goodall wrote: Isn't religion just so very very evil? I think it should be banned. That sounds like your religion. LOL! I don't have a religion. JDG - What is evil without religion? Evil. --

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Apr 2003 at 16:44, William T Goodall wrote: On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 01:24 pm, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 12:19 PM 4/2/2003 +0100 William T Goodall wrote: Isn't religion just so very very evil? I think it should be banned. That sounds like your religion. LOL! I don't

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread freewire1
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:32:11 -0600, The Fool wrote: http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/okeefe032603.html Two leading evangelical Christian missionary organizations said Tuesday that they have teams of workers poised to enter Iraq to address the physical and spiritual needs of a large Muslim

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread William T Goodall
On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 07:36 pm, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Apr 2003 at 16:44, William T Goodall wrote: On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 01:24 pm, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 12:19 PM 4/2/2003 +0100 William T Goodall wrote: Isn't religion just so very very evil? I think it should be

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Apr 2003 at 22:05, William T Goodall wrote: On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 07:36 pm, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Apr 2003 at 16:44, William T Goodall wrote: On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 01:24 pm, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 12:19 PM 4/2/2003 +0100 William T Goodall

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 04:44 PM 4/2/2003 +0100 William T Goodall wrote: On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 01:24 pm, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 12:19 PM 4/2/2003 +0100 William T Goodall wrote: Isn't religion just so very very evil? I think it should be banned. That sounds like your religion. JDG - What is evil

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 07:36 PM 4/2/2003 +0100 Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Apr 2003 at 16:44, William T Goodall wrote: On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 01:24 pm, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 12:19 PM 4/2/2003 +0100 William T Goodall wrote: Isn't religion just so very very evil? I think it should be banned.

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 12:32 PM 4/1/2003 -0600 The Fool wrote: http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/okeefe032603.html I thought you believed in charity and freedom of speech. Cutting through the spin of this article, these groups are going to provide much-needed aid to Iraqis, and when the opportunity arrises, they

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread Russell Chapman
John D. Giorgis wrote: It seems to me that belief in evil is a religion. Or perhaps you can demonstrate the existence of evil through science, without resorting to faith? Couldn't evil be defined as something that causes net loss/pain/cost to the larger community, for no benefit other than

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 01:56 PM 4/3/2003 +1000 Russell Chapman wrote: Couldn't evil be defined as something that causes net loss/pain/cost to the larger community, for no benefit other than gratification on the part of the transgressor? It seems to me that this would be an article of faith. JDG

RE: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Van: William T Goodall [wrote] Isn't religion just so very very evil? I think it should be banned. NO! As an Evil Overlord, I cannot stress enough the importance of religion for the populace. Give your subjects religion, then you can tell them their

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread Russell Chapman
John D. Giorgis wrote: At 01:56 PM 4/3/2003 +1000 Russell Chapman wrote: Couldn't evil be defined as something that causes net loss/pain/cost to the larger community, for no benefit other than gratification on the part of the transgressor? It seems to me that this would be an article of

RE: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-02 Thread Horn, John
From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JDG - What is evil without religion? Evil. It seems to me that belief in evil is a religion. Or perhaps you can demonstrate the existence of evil through science, without resorting to faith? Evil is like beauty or great art: I know it

christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-01 Thread The Fool
http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/okeefe032603.html --- Christ demanded: But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. --Luke 19:27 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-01 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:32 PM Subject: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/okeefe032603.html --- Christ demanded: But those mine enemies

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-01 Thread The Fool
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:32 PM Subject: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/okeefe032603.html --- Christ demanded: But those mine enemies

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-01 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:00 PM Subject: Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-01 Thread The Fool
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/okeefe032603.html --- Christ demanded: But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring

RE: christian vultures circling iraq ready to strike

2003-04-01 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... That Christ demanded that. He told a story; he is not the king in the story. I'm not so sure about that; I think he is the king in the story. But what is quite clear is that Christ did not describe himself a king in the worldly,