Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 09:57 PM 8/3/03 -0400, David Hobby wrote:
Where have you been? Everybody uses symbols differently,
of course. But I saw many flying the flag who seemed to do so out
of some mix of patriotism, jingoism and hate. (Anyway, they would
say things like Kill all
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
What's fair about the others contaminating a symbol I
respect with things
I don't believe in?
Nothing. But then again, there is nothing unfair in it either. It's
*their* interpretation of the symbol. You may challenge it if you wish
to but that doesn't mean that
At 03:23 PM 8/4/03 +0530, Ritu wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
What's fair about the others contaminating a symbol I
respect with things
I don't believe in?
Nothing. But then again, there is nothing unfair in it either. It's
*their* interpretation of the symbol. You may challenge it if you
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
IOW, why should I fight fair in
defending the good
aspects of a symbol if others do not fight fair in contaminating
it?
Only one reason would make sense: that you believe in fighting fair
and
do not wish to pattern your behaviour on other people's less
Display and interpret any symbol the way
you wish to. If others get offended, it is their problem, not yours.
As long as *all* they do is feel offended. There have been reports, for
example, of Jews in some European countries being attacked for wearing kippot,
stars of David, and other
Tom Beck wrote:
The antidote to offensive speech is MORE speech, not less. I think
sometimes
people misinterpret politeness and civility as silence.
And silence as acquiescence. This is something I completely agree with.
Silence often ends up meaning that one lets the ridiculous memes hold
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
And then there have been any number of cases when a Jewish boy who wore his
yarmulke to school had it ripped off his head and stomped into the ground
by a group of bullies who then proceeded to beat him up simply for being
different . . .
And there was a case where a
--- John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't you mean there
are certainly
_individual_ conservatives who support Coulter or
Falwell, but on the whole
they are persona non grata on the right.?
JDG
You're exactly right. Oops :-(
=
Gautam Mukunda
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He loves America - while hating all kinds of
Americans who don't happen to be
exactly like him. Rush Limbaugh succeeds by lying to
the public, by pandering
to their prejudices and to their completely
misplaced resentments and
Hi all,
Went to this movie with the kids. Thought it was done very well. Throughout
the movie, they made sure everyone knew when to have the glasses on. They
put in a small break towards the end to give kids eyes a break. I was a bit
skeptical, since the last 3D movie I saw was Jaws 3 or 4, which
Even if you're not enamoured of horses, this is a
really good movie - beautifully shot, well-cast,
well-acted, and a feel-good story that has the
advantage of being (mostly) true. It's a classic
American tale of some come-from-behind, beat-the-odds,
never-give-up misfit individuals who make good,
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: brinl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Seabiscuit (no spoilers)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 10:53:11 -0700 (PDT)
Even if you're not enamoured of horses, this is a
really good movie - beautifully shot, well-cast,
http://www.lessig.org/blog/archives/cat_heroes.shtml
From John Gilmore:
It's been interesting reading. I'd like to respond. I suppose the obvious
place to start is with Seth Finkelstein's trolls. (Of course he is doing
what he accuses me of making outrageous statements and then chuckling
when
Continued from Friday (some snippage), and folding in
a response to Julia re: point 3)-
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
1) You deliberately continue to taunt people, even
when it's clear
that they don't understand your sarcasm.
There aren't any dummies
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
snipped paragraph of lingua-babble
head jerks up from obfuscationist-babble-induced
near-coma
That's not obfuscationist babble, that's jargon!
The Chomsky Hierarchy
Regular languages- Finite automata
From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chomsky is generally repulsive - but people who claim
the dissent is marginalized should remember that this
anti-Semitic, anti-American bigot is the most cited
scientist in the world, and not just because
-Original Message-
From: Horn, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:34 AM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: RE: Spy Kids: Game over (In 3D) - no spoilers
From: Chad Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all,
Went to this movie with the kids. Thought it was
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 12:40:16PM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:
I did provide a short explination which you did not respond to.
No you did not. You just restated your conclusion with an absurd appeal
to general belief.
--
Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/
He rambled on about the horses used in the movie.
No I don't know how to find a transcript.
Side note:
Have you ever seen the movie Michael Kohlhaas?
William Taylor
--
Still haven't found a used copy of Spirit
___
If someone doesn't join or continue in a discussion
because they're unwilling to face your acidity, that
is a loss to the list. You have politely corrected
people in the past, and that enhances the list -
I think this is one of the most important statemts made on this topic.
Whether Yo like
I wrote:
snip
I deliberately wrote sarcasm as
a euphemism for 'vicious personal attacks' -- your
non-personal humor and irony, OTOH, is funny and
welcomed.
snip
Um, that came off a bit more arrogant than I'd
intended! What I meant is that there is a difference
between wickedly funny humor
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, everyone. I managed to get a quick e-mail off
to Julia and Jose earlier
today to ask them to cover everything list-related
for a while. My best
friend, business partner and often the backup admin
for Brin-L, had a
seizure this morning at 3
At 03:49 PM 8/4/2003 -0400, you wrote:
He rambled on about the horses used in the movie.
No I don't know how to find a transcript.
Side note:
Have you ever seen the movie Michael Kohlhaas?
William Taylor
--
Still haven't found a used copy of Spirit
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm going to Scotland tomorrow to see my son, Ted,
in Shogun MacBeth at the
Churchhill theater in Edinburg. I'll be staying
with friends who live
north of Aberdeen. One of the side benefits of Teri
being on leave with Continental.
Listen to some
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He loves America - while hating all kinds of
Americans who don't happen to be
exactly like him. Rush Limbaugh succeeds by lying to
the public, by pandering
to their prejudices and to their completely
misplaced resentments and grudges
and envies and greeds.
In a message dated 8/4/2003 1:08:50 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
He rambled on about the horses used in the movie.
No, I didn't, but I heard that they used something
like 50 horses to get the various different behaviors
they needed.
One of the horses was
At 12:26 AM 8/2/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote:
It seems to me that seeing malice in vigorous discussion is your
forte. I write about what I think is important, and argue against things
that I don't think are correct. I expect a high standard from people who
post on serious topics here, and when I
Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
snipped paragraph of lingua-babble
head jerks up from obfuscationist-babble-induced
near-coma
That's not obfuscationist babble, that's jargon!
The Chomsky Hierarchy
Regular
At least, that was what the person who posted the link to the other
mailing list said.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/bambi.asp
I haven't checked it out myself, am not likely to do so today. If
anyone checks it out and wants to share some of the details here, that
would be cool.
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guatam replied:
How arrogant. Basically your argument is that
Limbaugh is popular because he tricks the stupid
average Americans who listen to him, who are too
dumb
and foolish to see through him - unlike the great
and
wise Tom, who does. Just
Reggie Bautista wrote:
LIMBAUGH: The worst of all of this is the lie that condoms really protect
against AIDS. The condom failure rate can be as high as 20 percent. Would
you get on a plane -- or put your children on a plane -- if one of five
passengers would be killed on the flight? Well,
From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
At least, that was what the person who posted the link to the
other
mailing list said.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/bambi.asp
I haven't checked it out myself, am not likely to do so today. If
anyone checks it out and wants to
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 03:51:35PM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
or on factual matters, when a mistake is corrected.
Unfortunately, sometimes you give the impression that the mistake
to be corrected is that the other list member in the discussion
disagrees with you.
Which is, in fact, the
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
snipped paragraph of lingua-babble
head jerks up from obfuscationist-babble-
induced near-coma
That's not obfuscationist babble, that's
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you ever seen the movie Michael Kohlhaas?
No - does it have horses? :)
Yes. Medieval Germany at the time of Marin Luther. A
breeder taking his
horses to market has to leave the best horse as a
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I found this article while searching for info
about my favorite
planet. Whether or not there is running water on
Mars, I thought that
the subject line would provoke some imaginations! :)
http://www.msnbc.com/news/423452.asp#BODY
The images, taken from
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Did you catch the noon Paul Harvey, Debbi?
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 14:59:42 -0700 (PDT)
snippage
Contrary to rumors (which I started) the WB is not
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Politics, was [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 18:24:34 -0400
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 04:21:37PM -0500, Julia Thompson
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 07:34:51PM -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps I've misunderstood your argument, Gauatam, but it seems to
me you are quite close to arguing a tautology: those on the Left
do not criticize Leftist extremists, and those who
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