Re: Gay marriage in the closet
Julia Thompson wrote: Horn, John wrote: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling. Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave. Human sacrifice... Dogs and cats living together... Mass hysteria. Can't Forget Mass Hysteria Maru Heck no! Mass Hysteria's the best part! :-) Jim ZUUL!! Maru ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Bad intelligence
jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snippage I'm not sure yet how the new Democrats will really look like, especially since most of them were elected from the liberal northeast. Several Western states, Colorado included, elected Democratic governors; indeed, our state legislature experienced the same one-eighty as Congress: both house and senate now have a Democrat majority. As for degrees of liberalness (did I just make that up?), most of the Dems I know here, frex, support the right to own guns (but probably not assault rifles -- that's Idaho!), want a balanced budget, and the right to practice whatever religion they embrace. As do the indies like me. Debbi who will take the job of Galactic Overlady if Q offers it to me... ';} Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Silent oceans?
Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: I'd already stopped eating shrimp some years back, because of large by-catch loss (undesirable animals caught in the nets and tossed back, usually dead), (...) Shrimps are created in farms now - that's what make them cheaper while other fish products become more expensive. There is still a very large shrimp fishing industry; here are an activist's pix of some: http://www.norbertwu.com/galleries/pew-web/index4.html (His numbers ratios seem high to me.) http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-11-30-sea-of-waste_x.htm For every 5 pounds of fish caught by U.S. commercial fishing operations, 1 pound is dumped overboard as unwanted, according to a new study in the peer-reviewed journal Fish and Fisheries. Those wasted fish add up to more than 1 million tons a year, 28% of all commercially caught fish, the study says. We land 4 million tons, but we throw away 1 million tons. And that's a lot of high-quality protein that could be utilized, says co-author Andrew Rosenberg of the University of New Hampshire and a member of the White House-appointed U.S. Commission on Ocean Policy... Or, if you prefer the Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/30/AR2005113001948.html American fishing operations discard more than a fifth of what they catch each year, according to a new report by a team of U.S. and Canadian scientists. The study, which was commissioned by the marine advocacy group Oceana and appears in the December issue of the journal Fish and Fisheries, represents the first comprehensive accounting of the amount of bycatch in the United States. Fisheries consultant Jennie M. Harrington, Dalhousie University professor Ransom A. Myers and University of New Hampshire professor Andrew A. Rosenberg used federal data collected from 1991 to 2002 to calculate which regional fisheries inadvertently kill the most unwanted fish. The Gulf of Mexico topped the list, largely because its shrimp fishery had 1 billion pounds of bycatch -- half the nation's wasted fish in 2002. Gulf shrimpers, which typically drag trawl nets with steel doors across the ocean floor, discard about four times as many fish as they keep, according to the study. U.S. fisheries on average throw away 22 percent, or 1.1 million tons, of the fish they catch... ...Although federal authorities track bycatch by placing observers on some vessels, their statistics are not comprehensive. And fish farming creates its own problems, such as antibiotic use, excrement pollution, and destruction of wetlands/natural habitat. I don't eat farmed salmon b/c of the first two, and the fact that farmed salmon have significantly less omega-3 FAs (desirable, healthy type of fat) than wild-caught. What can be done to reduce other forms of by-catch, from the Monteray Bay Aq.: http://www.mbayaq.org/cr/cr_seafoodwatch/sfw_bycatch_sol.asp [Using 'pingers' to warn off dolphins, traps instead of nets for shrimp, longlines with 'scarecrows' and so forth.] Here is an article on global bycatch: http://www.fao.org/docrep/003/T4890E/T4890E00.HTM (summary; article much longer) The authors estimate that between 17.9 and 39.5 million tons (average 27.0 million) of fish are discarded each year in commercial fisheries. These estimates are based on a review of over 800 papers. The highest quantities of discards are from the Northwest Pacific while tropical shrimp trawl fisheries generate a higher proportion of discards than any other fishery type, accounting for one third of the global total. Of four major gear groups, shrimp trawls stand alone at the top of the list; bottom trawls, long-lines and pot fisheries come next. The third group consists of Japanese high-seas drift net fisheries, Danish seines and purse seines for capelin. Relatively low levels result from pelagic trawls, small pelagic purse seines and some of high seas drift nets. The authors point to inadequate data to determine the biological, ecological, economic and cultural impacts of discards although economic losses run to billions of dollars. However, it appears most likely that socio-cultural attitudes towards marine resources will guide international discard policies. Techniques to reduce bycatch levels including traditional net selectivity, fishing gear development and time/area restrictions, are discussed. Effort reduction, incentive programmes and individual transferable quotas (that make the vessel responsible for bycatch reduction) are seen as promising avenues for the future. However, quick solutions to the problem are unlikely and much more information is required. [FAO is The Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations.] Here is a long list of articles on bycatch around the globe: http://www.fao.org/DOCREP/003/T4890E/T4890E09.htm Debbi Out-Citing Dan?! Maru;) Yahoo! Music
PLEASE RESPOND Escalating e-mail problems!
Please pardon the intrusion. Last week I noticed that I was not receiving some of the daily news updates I am subscribed to. Since then, more and more such daily or near-daily services have stopped arriving. I have also noticed an apparent dropoff in the amount of regular e-mail I get every day. Today, not only did more (paid) subscription services disappear, but on at least one discussion list I am a member of I have not received copies of the messages I have sent to the list (although they must be getting through as some people have responded to them), and at least one person has informed me that messages from my account are being labeled by his gmail account as spam. It looks as though the problem started around 3 or 4 Nov. I haven't changed any e-mail settings or installed any new filtering or firewall software, so I'm guessing that BellSouth may have done something with their server software probably over the first weekend in Nov. I filed a problem report with them a little while ago, which according to their web site was successfully sent, but so far have not received a response. (Though I'd be happy with them simply fixing the problem as I requested.) Anyway, in case they want any more information, I thought I'd send a message to all the lists I'm a member of and individuals with which I regularly correspond to see if it goes through or runs into problems. Please, don't _everyone_ on the list respond :P , but I would like a response or a few to know that my messages are getting through to the list. I would especially like to hear from the list owners if this message triggers spam filters or other problems, or from others who find this message labeled spam. Thanks! -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: PLEASE RESPOND Escalating e-mail problems!
Came through to Brin-L. (So no one else needs to respond!) Julia On Mon, 13 Nov 2006, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Please pardon the intrusion. Last week I noticed that I was not receiving some of the daily news updates I am subscribed to. Since then, more and more such daily or near-daily services have stopped arriving. I have also noticed an apparent dropoff in the amount of regular e-mail I get every day. Today, not only did more (paid) subscription services disappear, but on at least one discussion list I am a member of I have not received copies of the messages I have sent to the list (although they must be getting through as some people have responded to them), and at least one person has informed me that messages from my account are being labeled by his gmail account as spam. It looks as though the problem started around 3 or 4 Nov. I haven't changed any e-mail settings or installed any new filtering or firewall software, so I'm guessing that BellSouth may have done something with their server software probably over the first weekend in Nov. I filed a problem report with them a little while ago, which according to their web site was successfully sent, but so far have not received a response. (Though I'd be happy with them simply fixing the problem as I requested.) Anyway, in case they want any more information, I thought I'd send a message to all the lists I'm a member of and individuals with which I regularly correspond to see if it goes through or runs into problems. Please, don't _everyone_ on the list respond :P , but I would like a response or a few to know that my messages are getting through to the list. I would especially like to hear from the list owners if this message triggers spam filters or other problems, or from others who find this message labeled spam. Thanks! -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: PLEASE RESPOND — Escalating e- mail problems!
In a message dated 11/13/2006 4:34:01 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would especially like to hear from the list owners if this message triggers spam filters or other problems, or from others who find this message labeled spam. The pen of my aunt is in the garden. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: PLEASE RESPOND Escalating e- mail problems!
At 05:48 PM Monday 11/13/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pen of my aunt is in the garden. Do you let her out of her pen to nibble on the vegetables? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: PLEASE RESPOND --- Escalating e- mail problems!
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 05:48 PM Monday 11/13/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pen of my aunt is in the garden. Do you let her out of her pen to nibble on the vegetables? -- Ronn! :) Hm. Is anyone involved a humanitarian? Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: PLEASE RESPOND — Escalating e -mail problems!
On 11/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pen of my aunt is in the garden. My hovercraft is full of eels. -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages: 408-904-7198 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: PLEASE RESPOND — Escalating e-mail pro blems!
Nick Arnett wrote: On 11/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pen of my aunt is in the garden. My hovercraft is full of eels. Otters on a moped. Julia oops, wrong list ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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In a message dated 11/13/2006 5:44:11 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pen of my aunt is in the garden. My hovercraft is full of eels. The pen of my aunt is in the garden. This sentence is usually found in french and german language books. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Re: PLEASE RESPOND — Escala ting e =?wind...
On 11/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/13/2006 5:44:11 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pen of my aunt is in the garden. My hovercraft is full of eels. The pen of my aunt is in the garden. This sentence is usually found in french and german language books. When I studied French, the pen was on the desk (La plume de ma tante est sur le bureau.). They moved it sometime in the last 30 years and modernized it from a feather to a real pen (un stylo). On the other hand, maybe the feather is still there. I haven't looked. Nick -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages: 408-904-7198 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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In a message dated 11/13/2006 7:31:14 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I studied French I haven't studied French, but the best French books I ever got at an estate sale came out of a dumpster. The son had thrown them there. Who would want them? They were in French. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: =?windows-1252?q?Re=2B or not 2B_PLEASE_RESPOND_=97_Escala all cars?..
What the heck happened to the subject line? At 08:40 PM Monday 11/13/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/13/2006 7:31:14 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I studied French I haven't studied French, but the best French books I ever got at an estate sale came out of a dumpster. The son had thrown them there. Who would want them? They were in French. I got a copy of French for Cats, but it didn't help me understand what they were saying any better . . . Meiou Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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In a message dated 11/13/2006 9:12:47 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What the heck happened to the subject line? Awww... He noticed. He really noticed. Vilyehm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: PLEASE RESPOND — Escalating e -mail problems!
I got this, but it didn't filter like the rest of my Brin-L messages. -- Matt - Original Message From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 3:31:11 PM Subject: PLEASE RESPOND — Escalating e-mail problems! Please pardon the intrusion. Last week I noticed that I was not receiving some of the daily news updates I am subscribed to. Since then, more and more such daily or near-daily services have stopped arriving. I have also noticed an apparent dropoff in the amount of regular e-mail I get every day. Today, not only did more (paid) subscription services disappear, but on at least one discussion list I am a member of I have not received copies of the messages I have sent to the list (although they must be getting through as some people have responded to them), and at least one person has informed me that messages from my account are being labeled by his gmail account as spam. It looks as though the problem started around 3 or 4 Nov. I haven't changed any e-mail settings or installed any new filtering or firewall software, so I'm guessing that BellSouth may have done something with their server software probably over the first weekend in Nov. I filed a problem report with them a little while ago, which according to their web site was successfully sent, but so far have not received a response. (Though I'd be happy with them simply fixing the problem as I requested.) Anyway, in case they want any more information, I thought I'd send a message to all the lists I'm a member of and individuals with which I regularly correspond to see if it goes through or runs into problems. Please, don't _everyone_ on the list respond :P , but I would like a response or a few to know that my messages are getting through to the list. I would especially like to hear from the list owners if this message triggers spam filters or other problems, or from others who find this message labeled spam. Thanks! -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
