Need help: Hearing aids

2004-03-30 Thread G. D. Akin
I just found out that my mother is going to need hearing aids as her hearing is deterriorating in both ears. She had local vendor in Eugene, Oregon quote her a price of $2995 for digital hearing aids (lifetime warranty and adjustments as her hearing worsens over time). Does anyone have any

Re: Scouted: Pesticide Ban Benefits Newborns

2004-03-30 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 08:01 PM 3/29/2004, you wrote: Decreasing prenatal exposure to pesticides reduces the number of underweight and SGA [small for gestational age] neonates. http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/84/98156.htm?printing=true ...Whyatt's team collected data from 316 pregnant African-American and

Re: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections

2004-03-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Robert J. Chassell wrote: This is different from what I understood as a child to be a traditional South American policy, whereby after a coup, a deposed president was permitted to go into exile, regardless of what he had done. Yes, but this was a practice adopted by most dictatorships, in a

Re: Scouted: Pesticide Ban Benefits Newborns

2004-03-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Deborah Harrell wrote: Decreasing prenatal exposure to pesticides reduces the number of underweight and SGA [small for gestational age] neonates. In Portuguese, the terms are Pequeno [=Small para [=for] a [=the] Idade [=age] Gestacional, and Grande [=Big] para a Idade Gestacional, which make

Re: Need help: Hearing aids

2004-03-30 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 06:11:14PM +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: I just found out that my mother is going to need hearing aids as her hearing is deterriorating in both ears. She had local vendor in Eugene, Oregon quote her a price of $2995 for digital hearing aids (lifetime warranty and

Rating the Presidents Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-30 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 06:55 PM 3/29/2004 -0500 Keith Henson wrote: Bush is considered to be (and might be) the worst president in US history. By whom?Under the usual standards that Presidents rate such things, I expect that he will be placed near or at the top of one-term Presidents if he loses re-election.

Re: Rating the Presidents Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-30 Thread Richard Baker
JDG said: By whom?Under the usual standards that Presidents rate such things, I expect that he will be placed near or at the top of one-term Presidents if he loses re-election. Regardless of Bush Jr's merits, he surely doesn't compare favourably with Bush Sr, who skillfully managed the

Re: Belief (was: (no subject))

2004-03-30 Thread Ray Ludenia
Deborah Harrell wrote: smile I can't remember the thread, but there was a discussion on this question not too terribly long ago...perhaps last summer? I'll try to find it (maybe someone else can recall the thread?), but it might be a while (a lot's going on). But the short answer is 'a

Re: Rating the Presidents Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-30 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 05:44 AM 3/30/2004 -0800 Richard Baker wrote: JDG said: By whom?Under the usual standards that Presidents rate such things, I expect that he will be placed near or at the top of one-term Presidents if he loses re-election. Regardless of Bush Jr's merits, he surely doesn't compare

Re: Rating the Presidents Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-30 Thread Keith Henson
At 08:32 AM 30/03/04 -0500, you wrote: At 06:55 PM 3/29/2004 -0500 Keith Henson wrote: Bush is considered to be (and might be) the worst president in US history. By whom? Google Results 1 - 10 of about 1,080 for worst president in US history Bush. (0.22 seconds) to be fair, Google Results 1 -

Re: O'Lielly Brings Out His Inner Bigot

2004-03-30 Thread William T Goodall
On 30 Mar 2004, at 6:25 am, Julia Thompson wrote: It bugs the heck out of me when someone makes a blanket statement about Hispanics because chances are, it's going to be flat-out wrong for more than half the people that could be classified that way for whatever reason. (I could probably come up

Re: Belief (was: (no subject))

2004-03-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:02 AM 3/30/04, Ray Ludenia wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: smile I can't remember the thread, but there was a discussion on this question not too terribly long ago...perhaps last summer? I'll try to find it (maybe someone else can recall the thread?), but it might be a while (a lot's

Re: Belief (was: (no subject)) (Subject to one's belief)

2004-03-30 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 3/30/2004 7:04:06 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But the short answer is 'a sense of the numinous' (not my words - Doug's? Bob's? Robert's? - but I liked them enough to appropriate them). Running a quick search through last year's posts revealed

Re: O'Lielly Brings Out His Inner Bigot

2004-03-30 Thread Julia Thompson
William T Goodall wrote: On 30 Mar 2004, at 6:25 am, Julia Thompson wrote: It bugs the heck out of me when someone makes a blanket statement about Hispanics because chances are, it's going to be flat-out wrong for more than half the people that could be classified that way for

Rating the Presidents Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-30 Thread iaamoac
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: led a spectacularly successful War in Afghanistan spectacularly successful? It's not over yet by a longshot, much too soon to call it a success. At best, it is a work in progress. Again, it depends on your criteria. As noted

At last it can be told

2004-03-30 Thread Nick Arnett
Not that this was a big secret... but the announcement is now official: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040330/sftu012_2.html LOS GATOS, Calif., March 30 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- LiveWorld, Inc. (Pinksheets: LVWD.PK - News) a leading provider of online communities to Fortune 1000 companies, today

Re: Rating the Presidents Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-30 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 06:30:42PM -, iaamoac wrote: The elements that are still in progress, are elements that in the judgement of history would merely be icing on the cake beyond the goals which the war has already accomplished. If Taliban and al-Qaeda are icing, that must be some awful

Deep South Con 42 Report

2004-03-30 Thread Steve Sloan II
I got back from Deep South Con/Mid South Con in Memphis Sunday night. It was scheduled with David Brin as the Guest of Honor, and Todd Lockwood, who I've never heard of because he seems to do mostly fantasy illustration, as the Artist Guest of Honor. Kevin Lenagh of _Contacting Aliens_ fame, and

Re: Brin: Conference on Inverse Surveillance

2004-03-30 Thread Davd Brin
--- Julia,Hi! Yeah this conf is run and pushed by Steve Mann, a prof at U Toronto who is big in wearable computers and who coined Sousveillance. I naturally approve in theoryu... though I find some of the indignation and noise a bit tedious. Thrive all. ANd please do not ket John foist any of

Meanwile in the Dark Heart of RednecKlan Sugar-Daddy Moon land...

2004-03-30 Thread The Fool
Moon Declares himself to be the Messiah before Congressmen in the Dirksen Senate Office Building: http://www.unification.net/2004/20040323_1.html Some of the Scummy Congressional followers of Moon: http://www.familyfed.org/usa/photo2004/20040323b_3.jpg -- Stalin and Hitler posthumously Endorse

RE: Ease the pain but don't stop offshoring

2004-03-30 Thread Mike Lee
Bethlehem steel is the biggest one I know; they didn't fund their retirement plans properly, they declared bankruptcy and the gov is left holding the bag. I agree that business that work the system this way are despicable. One more reason for workers not to trust a corporation to take care

RE: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-30 Thread Mike Lee
Huh? Have you ever read how to books on job transitions? He was just following quitting 101 when he did that. You never write nasty stuff in a resignation letter. Especially to the president. You may have your say verbally before you resign, but once you decide to go, you keep it as

RE: Winning the War on Terror

2004-03-30 Thread Mike Lee
What religion is based on killing unbelievers, subjugating all women, (and a other things). I hope you don't need a hint on these questions skippy. Almost All of them. At least the major ones anyway. Christianity is a pale shadow of its former ferocious self. If Islam wants to

RE: Winning the War on Terror

2004-03-30 Thread Mike Lee
OTOH what religion does dance in the streets when innocents are killed? None. The only ones who were dancing belonged to the minority of Muslem fundamentalists; the moderates are as disgusted as you and I are when innocent people are killed. This Islamic Moderate, Santa Claus and the

RE: Winning the War on Terror

2004-03-30 Thread Mike Lee
Do you only hate Muslims, or does your hatred extend to other religions as well? I don't much like most religions period. Muslims are way ahead on my S-list at the moment. Let's say a group of Christian fanatics (to put it in perspective: the kind that would make JDG look like a

RE: Winning the War on Terror

2004-03-30 Thread Mike Lee
The truth is that sufficient violence ends violence. That is true enough. But that only works when you can seal the outlines of the geographical area and flood the same with your troops. It also works if you are violent enough to convince the rest of them they need to knock if off or

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-03-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Mike Lee wrote: (That brings up another issue--what will we do if they try to detonate a suitcase bomb, and all it does is blow up their mini van? If they try to do something nuclear in an American city, I think that's more likely to be the outcome than the bomb actually working. If Kerry's

Re: Scouted: Pesticide Ban Benefits Newborns

2004-03-30 Thread Deborah Harrell
Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote: Decreasing prenatal exposure to pesticides reduces the number of underweight and SGA [small for gestational age] neonates. http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/84/98156.htm?printing=true snip By 2001, after exposures had been reduced due to

Re: Belief (was: (no subject))

2004-03-30 Thread Deborah Harrell
Ray Ludenia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: But the short answer is 'a sense of the numinous' (not my words - Doug's? Bob's? Robert's? - but I liked them enough to appropriate them). Running a quick search through last year's posts revealed a plethora of posts (23)

The Physics of High Heels

2004-03-30 Thread Deborah Harrell
Not a joke! At least, not intentionally... http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/84/98130.htm?printing=true ...Researchers claim that the formula spelled out below can tell the maximum heel height a person can handle without toppling over or suffering excessively. h = Q•(12+3s/8) The variables

Lynne Cheney's [Mrs. VP] Lesbian Romance Novel in performance...

2004-03-30 Thread The Fool
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/171998p-150026c.html Lynne Cheney's still-remembered 1981 lesbian romance novel, Sisters, was feted Monday night in a special performance by the Lynne Cheney Players - to the delight of an audience of liberal East Village types. The performance at the

RE: RednecKKKlans stalk and assault gay web-poster

2004-03-30 Thread Mike Lee
It may be that this is an urban legend in the making. Following your link now gets this: A political hate crime Saturday, March 27, 2004 [I have decided to delete this post for now. The story cannot be confirmed, and I have no desire to be disseminating false information. I'm leaving its

RE: The color of truth (L3) (part 1)

2004-03-30 Thread Mike Lee
What color is the truth in your world? This color: TRUTH CONSEQUENCES The Bush Administration and September 11 TABLE OF CONTENTS Pre-9/11: White House Received Warnings.2 Pre-9/11: Administration Reduces Counter-Terrorism3 Pre-9/11: Strengthening Saudi

RE: The color of truth (part 3)

2004-03-30 Thread Mike Lee
Oh, and one more thing The indispensible Mark Steyn, once again giving in to his habit of saying it better than anyone: http://opinion.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/03/28/do 2804.xml ___

Stem cell therapy for ID diabetes in the works

2004-03-30 Thread Deborah Harrell
Research has been in mice thus far, but looks promising[ID=insulin dependent, or Type I]: http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/84/98078.htm?printing=true ...Type 1 diabetes develops when the insulin-producing cells of the pancreas are destroyed. Insulin is a hormone that moves glucose (a sugar)

Re: Rating the Presidents Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-30 Thread John Garcia
On Mar 30, 2004, at 9:04 AM, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 05:44 AM 3/30/2004 -0800 Richard Baker wrote: JDG said: By whom?Under the usual standards that Presidents rate such things, I expect that he will be placed near or at the top of one-term Presidents if he loses re-election. Regardless of

Re: The color of truth (L3) (part 1)

2004-03-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
Mike wrote: Really, Doug, all this Monday morning quarterbacking is going nowhere. Next you'll be complaining because Tom Clancy warned us about crashing a plane into the capitol building. Spin every little thing you can all day long, but everybody knows the truth: nobody took these jackasses

RIP

2004-03-30 Thread John Garcia
Peter Ustinov and Alistair Cooke have passed on. Ustinov's greatest performance (among many) was probably as Capt Vere in his film adaptation of Billy Budd, while Aistair Cooke was just too cool. they will be missed john ___

Re: RIP

2004-03-30 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 3/30/2004 7:35:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ustinov's greatest performance (among many) was probably as Capt Vere in his film adaptation of Billy Budd, And best speaking role was in Grendel, Grendel, Grendel

Re: The color of truth (L3) (part 1)

2004-03-30 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 06:32 PM 3/30/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: But the evidence points to the fact that Clinton/Gore took them _more_ seriously than Bush did. What evidence is this? I'm convinced by the evidence that 9/11 is less likely to have happened under Gore. What exactly is it that convinces you

Re: RIP

2004-03-30 Thread John Garcia
On Mar 30, 2004, at 9:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/30/2004 7:35:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ustinov's greatest performance (among many) was probably as Capt Vere in his film adaptation of Billy Budd, And best speaking role was in Grendel,

Re: The color of truth (L3) (part 1)

2004-03-30 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:38 PM Subject: Re: The color of truth (L3) (part 1) At 06:32 PM 3/30/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: But the evidence points to the fact that

Re: The color of truth (L3) (part 1)

2004-03-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:38:48 -0500, John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 06:32 PM 3/30/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: But the evidence points to the fact that Clinton/Gore took them _more_ seriously than Bush did. What evidence is this? http://tinyurl.com/38ecs http://tinyurl.com/36k6u

Re: RIP

2004-03-30 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 3/30/2004 7:52:56 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And best speaking role was in Grendel, Grendel, Grendel ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l IIRC he got a Grammy for that. john

Fwd: Photos

2004-03-30 Thread Davd Brin
some pictures of David and Sheldon Brown presenting the exorarium concept at a recent CONTACT Conference: http://www.driveonmars.com/events/contact2004/day2/page_02.htm = . . * Please note. My email address of many years is changing FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... (Or else

Re: The color of truth (L3) (part 1)

2004-03-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 21:12:03 -0600, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I don't think the chances would have been much less likely, but it seems that Bush downplaying AQ before 9-11 is fairly well established. I've said it before here; I'm convinced that heightened airport

4thReichKlans Making a Move: Fascist Censorship Spreads to FEC

2004-03-30 Thread The Fool
It's Twilight Time as The 4thReichKlan Browncoats seek to further strangle free speech and democracy: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/3/30/233550/681 Just recieved from Move On - another case of administration overreach without regard for consequences. Thought I'd pass it on in case anyone

RE: The color of truth (L3) (part 1)

2004-03-30 Thread Mike Lee
I've said it before here; I'm convinced that heightened airport security would have thwarted the attacks. Oh, for Christ's sake. I didn't even think you'd come up with something as lame as that. I fly quite a bit. I'll give you this: increased airport security is a complete waste of time by

RE: 4thReichKlans Making a Move: Fascist Censorship Spreads to FEC

2004-03-30 Thread Mike Lee
The Republican National Committee is pressing the Federal Election Commission (FEC) to issue new rules that would cripple groups that dare to communicate with the public in any way critical of President Bush or members of Congress. Incredibly, the FEC has just issued -- for public comment

Re: 4thReichKlans Making a Move: Fascist Censorship Spreads to FEC

2004-03-30 Thread The Fool
From: Mike Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Years ago, I ran for Congress. I was shocked, just shocked, at the crap they put me through. I'm so happy you might get to eat it with a spoon too. You made this, now enjoy your shit sandwich. I'm sure that after strapping on your jack-boots, when you look in

RE: 4thReichKlans Making a Move: Fascist Censorship Spreads to FEC

2004-03-30 Thread Mike Lee
I'm sure that after strapping on your jack-boots, when you look in the mirror you see Hitler looking back at you. He was fond of genocide also. Well, yes. I wear the mustache and a pink tutu too. It just seems like the right way to celebrate the imminent defeat of John Kerry. By the way,