Re: On Godliness

2008-02-24 Thread Charlie Bell
On 25/02/2008, at 5:15 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: > > And my point is that any conclusion that we are unique in the > unimaginable > vastness that is the universe for lack of evidence overestimates the > utility > of our perspective. Well, we are going to be unique in the universe. Evolution i

Re: On Godliness

2008-02-24 Thread Charlie Bell
On 25/02/2008, at 10:14 AM, Doug Pensinger wrote: > > And to those of you that are atheist; would you consider the > possibility > that there may be entities in the universe, evolved from lower life > forms > that could for all intents and purposes be considered gods? Of course I consider the

Re: On Godliness

2008-02-24 Thread Max Battcher
Doug Pensinger wrote: > Hi Max, welcome to the list. I'm not that new, I just post extremely infrequently, leaving me most months as nothing but a lurker. > If you were to shrink the a solar system with one planet full of > (ostensibly) intelligent beings to the size of an atom and place it in

Re: On Godliness

2008-02-24 Thread Doug Pensinger
Max wrote: Hi Max, welcome to the list. > > Well, anything can be a "possibility". So yes, I consider it a > possibility. But on the other hand, have we any evidence of higher life > forms? No. So I still don't believe in them either, be they > man-become-god or your average spaghetti-dinner-

Re: On Godliness

2008-02-24 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn! > > > You are well over a century late with that conjecture ;): > > > > I made no claim concerning originality. from the website: "As man now is, God once was: As God now is, man may be So why would there only be one? Or is the

Fwd: looking for Clinton Thomas and Q. Cruz

2008-02-24 Thread Steve Sloan
Attila, I recognize some of the names from your list, but I don't know anything more than their email addresses from the time when I was active on some of the Asimov lists. I am forwarding your email to two groups that might have a better idea. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Torkos Atti

Re: On Godliness

2008-02-24 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 05:14 PM Sunday 2/24/2008, Doug Pensinger wrote: >So that set me to wondering; would those of you among us that are religious >consider the possibility that their supreme being(s) was at one time >something similar to what we are today? You are well over a century late with that conjecture ;)

Re: On Godliness

2008-02-24 Thread Max Battcher
Doug Pensinger wrote: > And to those of you that are atheist; would you consider the possibility > that there may be entities in the universe, evolved from lower life forms > that could for all intents and purposes be considered gods? Well, anything can be a "possibility". So yes, I consider it a

On Godliness

2008-02-24 Thread Doug Pensinger
Not that speculative fiction really influences my personal philosophy, but in reading Bank's Matter I am reminded why I doubt rather than I am assured that there are no gods. If you believe in some sort of technological singularity, its easy to imagine how an intelligent entity such as a human bei

Re: Brin-l Digest, Vol 369, Issue 6

2008-02-24 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:48 PM Saturday 2/23/2008, hkhenson wrote: >At 01:00 PM 2/23/2008, William T Goodall wrote: > > >Religion has a vested interest in discouraging critical thinking. > >I think it's *much* worse than that. > >In "Evolutionary Psychology, Memes and the Origin of War" I make a >case that the psycho

Re: Per capita cost/value of infrastructure?

2008-02-24 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > At 11:28 PM Saturday 2/23/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: >> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: >>> At 07:12 PM Saturday 2/23/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, Nick Arnett wrote: > On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Cha

Re: Per capita cost/value of infrastructure?

2008-02-24 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 11:28 PM Saturday 2/23/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: >On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > > At 07:12 PM Saturday 2/23/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: > >> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, Nick Arnett wrote: > >>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Charlie Bell > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

Re: Per capita cost/value of infrastructure?

2008-02-24 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Julia Thompson wrote: > > Well, if there had been anyone across the street *to* see on one of the > recent windy days (as if we got any other kind right here?), they would > have told you I wasn't a proper Scotsman. Take that however you like. :) > OTOH, here in Brazil we are experiencing a quite