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2009-06-29 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
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Re: Brin: Language

2009-06-29 Thread David Brin
>Which shows how diametrically different Galactic lawyers are to US lawyers, who are frequently hired to find some way of making the contract say the exact opposite of what it is meant to say because one of the signatories wants to do what he wants rather than what he agreed to. YEP! >"In o

Re: Iran

2009-06-29 Thread John Garcia
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: > > On 28/06/2009, at 1:25 PM, dsummersmi...@comcast.net wrote: > >> Um... a ship? Do you mean the Marines patrol boat a couple of years >>> ago? Wasn't a ship. >>> >> >> Sorry Charlie. You have to remember that, when I was I kid I was on many

Re: Brin: Language

2009-06-29 Thread Medievalbk
That being said, Anglic is still probably more flexible by several degrees. -- Matt Anglic is very flexible. And symmetric. No galactic alphabet has characters that can be reversed or flipped. Dyslexia is impossible. But in Anglic, a d flipped once becomes a b. Flipped again, it's a p. And

Re: SCOUTED: e-Bike Project

2009-06-29 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Dave Land wrote: > Folks, > > A guy on a Canon 10D camera mailing list has been documenting his progress > to convert a (fairly cheap, from the look of things) bike to an electric > bike by replacing the front wheel with one that has a HUGE hub containing a > motor.

Re: Brin: Language

2009-06-29 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 12:21 PM Monday 6/29/2009, Matt Grimaldi wrote: see below... - Original Message From: Alberto Monteiro To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:32:29 AM Subject: Re: Brin: Language SPOILER ALERT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Charlie Bell wrote: >

Re: Brin: Language

2009-06-29 Thread Matt Grimaldi
see below... - Original Message From: Alberto Monteiro To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:32:29 AM Subject: Re: Brin: Language SPOILER ALERT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Charlie Bell wrote: > > I do recall something about language in the Uplif

Re: Brin: Language

2009-06-29 Thread Carolyn L Burke
--- On Mon, 6/29/09, Alberto Monteiro wrote: But this is not a metaphor!!! This is a _simile_. Heh. A metaphor is: "A cat is a dog with more attitude and a penchant for mice". A fully logical language would reject the previus sentence as false, because a cat is not a dog - GAME OVER. Now th

Re: Brin: Language

2009-06-29 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Carolyn L Burke wrote: > > I think a language that fully prevents metaphoric content would need > to meet two conditions: it would be fully definitional, and to do > that, you'd need a rather interesting, if not impossible, complete > ontology of the universe. In other words, you'd need to be a

Re: Brin: Language

2009-06-29 Thread Alberto Monteiro
SPOILER ALERT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Charlie Bell wrote: > > I do recall something about language in the Uplift books, but the > much more blatant example is Marain in the Culture books - again > designed to eliminate confuzzlement. > A REALLY BIG ONE!!! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Re: Iran

2009-06-29 Thread Alberto Monteiro
xponentrob wrote: > > Agreed. Iranians seem to have had no stomach for a general strike. > I think they would like to, but the reality on the ground is not > conducive to an action that would entail incredible sacrifice and > an obvious hardship on all. > (I'm guessing it generally works this way

Re: Brin: Language

2009-06-29 Thread Carolyn L Burke
Unlurking for a second to top post as this discussion converges on a few of my interests. >> > He touched on the concept in some of the Uplift Novels, where galactic >> > languages have generally been constructed in a way that eliminates >> > metaphore. > > I don't recall that.. and it would have

Re: Brin: Language

2009-06-29 Thread Charlie Bell
On 29/06/2009, at 10:58 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 3:00 PM, KZK wrote: I'd like to hear Dr. Brin's thoughts on this: http://edge.org/3rd_culture/boroditsky09/boroditsky09_index.html He touched on the concept in some of the Uplift Novels, where galactic languages have gen