Where’d the Dinosaurs Go?

2009-09-22 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
http://danielomcclellan.wordpress.com/2009/09/20/wheres-the-dinosaurs-go/ ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

NASA sets Ares I-X test launch date

2009-09-22 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
NASA sets Ares I-X test launch date | Space News from The Huntsville Times - al.com - al.com - http://blog.al.com/space-news/2009/09/nasa_is_targeting_oct_27.html ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread David Hobby
Charlie Bell wrote: On 23/09/2009, at 8:26 AM, Pat Mathews wrote: If I was uncivil, I apologize. I said what it appeared to me to be, but I may be wrong. At any rate, this was addressed, not to those who considered the plea ineffective, but those who began religious arguments. Well, this is

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 23/09/2009, at 8:26 AM, Pat Mathews wrote: If I was uncivil, I apologize. I said what it appeared to me to be, but I may be wrong. At any rate, this was addressed, not to those who considered the plea ineffective, but those who began religious arguments. Well, this is a list where we

RE: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Pat Mathews
If I was uncivil, I apologize. I said what it appeared to me to be, but I may be wrong. At any rate, this was addressed, not to those who considered the plea ineffective, but those who began religious arguments. Pat http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > Subject: Re: Wife's suggestion! >

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 23/09/2009, at 2:37 AM, Pat Mathews wrote: We started with a plea for civility and niceness. Because it invoked religion and the name of Jesus, the thread was promptly taken over by those who felt it their bounden duty to object to the Christian content - not on the grunds that they wer

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread John Horn
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Michael Harney wrote: > Oh, as for an example of Jesus not "respectfully disagreeing", call to your recollection what > Jesus did to the vendors in the temple. I believe it had something to do with shouting, > throwing over tables, smashing merchandise and even wi

Re: What's to read?

2009-09-22 Thread John Williams
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: > I think the reason you're still waiting for Brin's books is also the > answer to you're question about the number of titles available. > They're probably negotiating with a lot of authors for the rights or > dealing with copyright issues.

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 22, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: That's the widely perceived view of them, yes. Doesn't totally hold water if you actually read the New Testament, but yes - if people tried to act a bit nicer to each other we'd be bet

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 22, 2009, at 3:20 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: I agree with Bruce that in general lessons ascribed to Jesus are about love and acceptance of the other. That's the widely perceived view of them, yes. Doesn't totally hold water if you actually read the New Testament, but yes - if people t

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Dave Land
Folks, I admire the work done by the Public Conversations Project: http://publicconversations.org/ Their purpose is to facilitate conversations about hotly contested issues, training leaders and participants to avoid position-taking and recitation of talking-points and focus instead on buil

RE: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Pat Mathews
We started with a plea for civility and niceness. Because it invoked religion and the name of Jesus, the thread was promptly taken over by those who felt it their bounden duty to object to the Christian content - not on the grunds that they were not Christian, but because they consider it their

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 23/09/2009, at 1:46 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: I know what you mean, I think, but I've stopped using the word "nice" to describe it. I know churches that are perfectly "nice" to gays, for example, but in doing so pretty much fail to accept them. Sort of a "welcome to our church, we're gl

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Nick Arnett
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: > > > That's the widely perceived view of them, yes. Doesn't totally hold water > if you actually read the New Testament, but yes - if people tried to act a > bit nicer to each other we'd be better off. I know what you mean, I think, but I've

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 22/09/2009, at 11:24 PM, Chris Frandsen wrote: Being civil has nothing to do with respecting beliefs. Being civil means not being unnecessarily offensive while pointing out where beliefs are damaging our societies. Some beliefs deserve ZERO respect (creationism, anti-vaccinationism etc

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Chris Frandsen
On Sep 22, 2009, at 3:20 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 22/09/2009, at 7:57 AM, Chris Frandsen wrote: A referral to "Religion" without being specific often sparks a response on this list. Sure, but this isn't one of those times. Asking non-Christians and Christians alike to be more civil i

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 22, 2009, at 1:36 AM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Yes but, calling the U.S. a Christian nation is a little beyond "the merest mention." More than a little, although in this case, the usage didn't seem to be malicious. The origin of that phrase is a multilayered equivocation on the part

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Charlie Bell
On 22/09/2009, at 7:57 AM, Chris Frandsen wrote: A referral to "Religion" without being specific often sparks a response on this list. Sure, but this isn't one of those times. Asking non-Christians and Christians alike to be more civil is one thing - civility in discourse is one thing.