Re: Question of the Day

2010-05-03 Thread John Garcia
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Ronn! Blankenship < ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Any troubledome out there figured out if Zanzibar is still the right size? > > To stand on? john ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedi

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2010-05-03 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 04:07 PM Monday 5/3/2010, Dave Land wrote: On May 3, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Bruce Bostwick wrote: There was research on exactly that sort of strategy, a few decades ago. Then it went out of style and what research there was was starved of funding and allowed to die, and we went right back to the

Deepwater Horizon Catastrophe

2010-05-03 Thread Jon Louis Mann
There is an ongoing discussion on this topic on Dr.Brin's Facebook site. I'm not sure if this forward is verbal hyperbole designed to exaggerate the magnitude of the environmental catastrophe now known as Deepwater Horizon. The forward claims we have been fed a gusher of lies to minimize the p

Question of the Day

2010-05-03 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
Any troubledome out there figured out if Zanzibar is still the right size? ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: Apprehension, was listmail

2010-05-03 Thread Wayne Eddy
> > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Keith Henson > wrote: > > The concept here leads to "the singularity," of nanotechnology and > weakly godlike AI. I see no way to avoid it. > > It doesn't matter if humans manage to keep up with advancing > technology or wind up relating to our successor the

Re: On Listmail

2010-05-03 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Lance wrote: ] Peak Wind? That's funny. We could almost work in a joke about breaking...uh, never mind. I had meant more along the lines: "It hurts the environment" "It doesn't do all the good that they say it does" "It's unreliable as a power source" "It ruins the picturesque scenery" "It's j

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2010-05-03 Thread Dave Land
On May 3, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Bruce Bostwick wrote: There was research on exactly that sort of strategy, a few decades ago. Then it went out of style and what research there was was starved of funding and allowed to die, and we went right back to the old habits. Wind/solar energy resources

Re: On Listmail

2010-05-03 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On May 3, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Wind/solar energy resources are still seen as hippie fringe science in the parts of the world where oil is still king, Not everywhere. P = k v^3 Maru Alberto Monteiro You are correct, sir. ;) "Go ahead and do it, you can apologize later

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2010-05-03 Thread Dan Minette
Matt Grimaldi said the following on 5/3/2010 3:30 PM: > Funny thing, there's an anti-wind power movement as well, borrowing many > of the same arguments that anti-oil protesters use. I presume you are thinking of Nantucket lawsuits against offshore windfarms as one example Dan M. ___

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2010-05-03 Thread Lance A. Brown
*boggle* Peak Wind? --[Lance] Matt Grimaldi said the following on 5/3/2010 3:30 PM: > Funny thing, there's an anti-wind power movement as well, borrowing many > of the same arguments that anti-oil protesters use. -- GPG Fingerprint: 409B A409 A38D 92BF 15D9 6EEE 9A82 F2AC 69AC 07B9 CACert.or

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2010-05-03 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Funny thing, there's an anti-wind power movement as well, borrowing many of the same arguments that anti-oil protesters use. -- Matt From: Dan Minette To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 12:06:49 PM Subject: RE: On Listmail

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2010-05-03 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of Doug Pensinger Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:50 AM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: On Listmail >Hi Dan, I'm glad to see you're still around and that you've >es

Re: On Listmail

2010-05-03 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Bruce Bostwick wrote: > > Wind/solar energy resources are still seen as hippie > fringe science in the parts of the world where oil is still king, > Not everywhere. P = k v^3 Maru Alberto Monteiro ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/bri

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2010-05-03 Thread Dan Minette
>Wait .. drill pipe, or casing? Everything I read as well as what I heard from a well placed source says casing. The WSJ is discussing a bad cement job as the cause, as are a number of other papers. What I've heard from my source is 100% consistent with the well having been cased and cemented

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2010-05-03 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On May 3, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Dan Minette wrote: No one could have envisioned, after already drilling the well and measuring all the downhole pressures, that during well changeover, there'd be enough pressure to push that much drill pipe outand that the drill pipe wouldn't be held by the

RE: On Listmail

2010-05-03 Thread Dan Minette
From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of Nick Arnett Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:11 AM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: On Listmail On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote

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2010-05-03 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On May 3, 2010, at 12:49 AM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Beyond that, you're right, we should stop using fossil fuels as quickly as is practicable. I favor large state and federal taxes on gas and oil to subsidize research and development on alternatives and the development of mass transit. Maybe in

Something quite, if not completely, different - Heading for Haiti

2010-05-03 Thread Nick Arnett
Nothing to do with the topic of the list (whatever that is) Two weeks from today I'll be heading to Haiti for a week with a medical team as its critical incident debriefer/chaplain. I've done a lot of crisis intervention and ministry, especially over the last five years, and I was a paramedic

Re: Apprehension, was listmail

2010-05-03 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Keith Henson wrote: > This list may have somewhat of the same kind of problem science > fiction does in general. > > The problem is runaway technology. In other words, perhaps the list doesn't need us anymore. I've seen a lot of web sites like that. Nick __

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2010-05-03 Thread Lance A. Brown
Nick Arnett wrote: > > > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Doug Pensinger > wrote: > > > If anything good is to come out of this disaster, its that we'll be > taking a closer look at offshore drilling, and that nobody will even > be suggesting that we rape t

RE: On Listmail

2010-05-03 Thread Pat Mathews
I think they had one, but it's not working, and they don't know why. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 07:11:07 -0700 Subject: Re: On Listmail From: nick.arn...@gmail.com To: brin-l@mccmedia.com On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: If anyth

Apprehension, was listmail

2010-05-03 Thread Keith Henson
This list may have somewhat of the same kind of problem science fiction does in general. The problem is runaway technology. Think of how long painting and story telling lasted. Movies are still using film, but that's rapidly coming to an end VHS tape is about gone after decades. DVD replaced t

Re: On Listmail

2010-05-03 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: > > If anything good is to come out of this disaster, its that we'll be > taking a closer look at offshore drilling, and that nobody will even > be suggesting that we rape the California coast for a few buckets of > oil. I've seen people se

RE: On Listmail

2010-05-03 Thread Jim Sharkey
As far as where everyone's been, the Sharkey scions are in the prime of their "doing lots of activities" ages right now. Between dance, baseball, softball and Boy Scouts there's barely a moment for plain old family time, let alone lengthy discussions on the pros and cons of the Arizona immigrat

Re: On Listmail

2010-05-03 Thread Richard Baker
Kevin said: > But your point about Facebook and Twitter may be correct, to some degree. The > unfortunate thing about that is neither medium is worth a damn for any > serious conversation. I am not in Dan Minette's league, as 3-4 paragraphs > into an e-mail I start to run out of steam, but you