Re: Southern-ness test
William T Goodall wrote: http://www.tricklefan.com/southern/test.html I got 30/71... Only 41/71, Southern Sympathizer. And I also had a lot of trouble with the car innard questions. :-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started a little over an hour ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html BTW, I hope to write a better, possibly more inviting chat reminder some time today, and possibly drum up some additional regulars. But for now, this is all you need to know: everyone on either list is welcome, including lurkers. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Atheists Purge History
Damon Agretto wrote: Can someone post the whole article for those of us that don't want to start an account? Or do we have a Brin-L account thre too? I went to bugmenot.com, and found this account: user name: utesfan password: sierra __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
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Uplift Fan-Fic Announcement: The Dorrvi -- Added Information
I've added a new Vilyehm Teighlore fan-fic story, The Dorrvi -- Added Information: http://stories.brin-l.org/dorrvi.html To see the original Dorrvi listing it refers to, go to pages 106-109 of _Contacting Aliens_. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Unitarians not a religion
Julia Thompson wrote: And she does all kinds of crap to get her name in the headlines anyway. Any publicity is good publicity, something like that. (Egomaniacal -!) Ick. Sounds a lot like our own Judge Roy Moore. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it's starting now. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: What America Does with its Hegemony
Doug Pensinger wrote: I agree that the US should have intervened. Do you agree, if it would have done so, it would have been dissed by a great deal of the world for imperealism? Should we have been willing to violate international law to save half a million human lives? What did the U.S. have to gain by intervening in Rwanda? Diddly squat, but that doesn't mean dedicated critics of the US couldn't come up with something. Presumably, Rwanda had something useful enough for past European imperialists to colonize the country, and the critics could use that. If we were successful in preventing a genocide and that was our clear motive in interveneing, the success of our mission would speak for itself. If, instead of asking for another $25 B for Iraq, we put that kind of money and effort towards ending the AIDS epidemic, who could doubt our motive was pure? Critics would claim the politicians who proposed it were using African AIDS victims as an excuse for taking money from taxpayers, and giving it to their buddies in the pharmaceutical companies. Only those who have dishonest motives themselves. France's dishonest motives for opposing the war in Iraq haven't hurt them so far. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it's starting now. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Huntsville Forbes #8 Best Place 2004
I'm proud to see that Huntsville, Alabama is ranked number 8 in Forbes' Best Places for Business. Not bad at all, considering that it has the smallest population in the top 25 list, at only 354,000 people. Other Brineller homes are also on the list, including Houston at number 15, and Austin at number 3. http://www.forbes.com/2004/05/05/04bestplacesland.html Best Places For Business Edited by Kurt Badenhausen, 05.07.04, 7:00 AM ET The best metro areas to launch a business or a career often revolve around universities that offer a diverse, educated work force and, especially when they are far from big cities, relatively low costs. Such regions--Raleigh, Austin and Ann Arbor among them--are also attractive places to live, judging by the patterns of migration. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about forty minutes ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: What America Does with its Hegemony
Gary Denton wrote: Well, I learned about the reliability of the American press last year when I went to independent sources and found out that Iraq had shut down its nuclear weapons program immediately after the first Gulf War. Where did this information come from? That definitely sounds like one of those extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence sorta situations... God, where have you been? Do you just watch Fox? Sorry, this has been in my blog so many times and finally filtered out to mainstream media months ago. Here Is USATODAY 12/1/03 but I think it is more than a little self-serving and also was set up to provide an out for intel in the US who got it wrong. Iraqi scientists never revived their long-dead nuclear bomb program, and in fact lied to Saddam Hussein about how much progress they were making before U.S.-led attacks shut the operation down for good in 1991, Iraqi physicists say. Other leading physicists, in Baghdad interviews, said the hope for an Iraqi atomic bomb was never realistic. It was all like building sand castles, said Abdel Mehdi Talib, Baghdad University's dean of sciences. http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-12-01-iraq-arms_x.htm OK, that essentially fixes what I was having so much trouble buying. I couldn't see any reason why Saddam would quit trying to build or buy nuclear weapons, because he certainly wouldn't do it out of the goodness of his heart. These articles give a reason, and I *can* believe that his scientists tried for a long time and failed, then he gave it up to move on to some other scheme after Gulf War I wrecked his facilities. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: What America Does with its Hegemony
Gary Denton wrote: Well, I learned about the reliability of the American press last year when I went to independent sources and found out that Iraq had shut down its nuclear weapons program immediately after the first Gulf War. Where did this information come from? That definitely sounds like one of those extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence sorta situations... __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Battlestar Galactica
Nick Lidster wrote: Perfectly true, anyone can be a grunt, however when your in the middle of no where, have no backup, and need to get the job done what do you do? Though you fly in the clouds, a marine is a grunt first. The 58th was heralded as the best of the best. To me they were flying grunts, more then once the played in the dirt. And aside from the other objections, why would that war even *need* ground troops? The enemy on the show constantly wore spacesuits in Earth-like environments, suggesting that they couldn't live on the planets they were trying to conquer. Early in the show, an alien prisoner even turned into a puddle of green goo after drinking ordinary water! Why would the aliens want to conquer planets where humans live, if they can't live there? Maybe they want to terraform the Earth-like planets so they can live there. Maybe the planets they've been living on are in the same solar systems as the human colonies, and they're too territorial to allow human colonies in solar systems they already claim. In either case, why wouldn't they just bomb the colonists from orbit, instead of wasting their ground troops? Ship-to-ship fighting and dogfights would make sense in that scenario, as humans fight to keep alien bombers or terraforming machines from their colonies, but I can't think of a good reason for ground fighting. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
[Larryniven-L] The army is working on impact armor
This is a pretty cool article that got posted to LarryNiven-L earlier today. Looks like a potentially very useful new technology. http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20040429/D828HIG00.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: ADMIN: Wonky server
Nick Arnett wrote: I do most of my development and day-to-day work on W3K and XP... they've been very stable. I should hope so, since they had an extra thousand years to work on that first one! ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Neanderthal growth rate
David Hobby wrote: It is an interesting idea: Neanderthals, though intelligent, were adapted for a low-tech, cold weather evolutionary niche. So maybe they were a different species--the debate goes on. Because dental growth is an excellent indicator of somatic development, our results suggest that Neanderthals developed faster even than their immediate ancestor, H. heidelbergensis. Dental growth became longer and brain size increased from the Plio-Pleistocene in hominid evolution. Neanderthals, despite having a large brain, were characterized by a short period of development. This autapomorphy in growth is an evolutionary reversal, and points strongly to a specific distinction between H. sapiens and H. neanderthalensis. So Neanderthals really did live fast and die young. I guess since their creative, neotonous childhoods were so short, they wouldn't have had a chance to develop the kind of mental flexibility modern humans have. I've also seen speculation that they couldn't develop much culture, because they didn't have enough old people for oral tradition to start. If they grew up quickly, they may have also aged quickly, which would support that theory. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about an hour and a half ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about three hours ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Fwd: [Larryniven-l] ALERT: The LATEST of SCAMS
Subject: [Larryniven-l] ALERT: The LATEST of SCAMS Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 02:23:10 -0700 From: Frank Gasperik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Larry Niven Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This one is good for a real laugh! From THE REGISTER I suppose it had to happen some day. Frank G. Cosmic 419er lost in space By Lester Haines Published Friday 16th April 2004 14:51 GMT For aficionados of the advance fee fraud email genre, we have a truly delicious 419 solicitation to brighten your Friday. Just when you thought you'd heard it all, try the one about the Nigerian astronaut stuck on Soyuz: Subject: Nigerian Astronaut Wants To Come Home Dr. Bakare Tunde Astronautics Project Manager National Space Research and Development Agency (NASRDA) Plot 555 Misau Street PMB 437 Garki, Abuja, FCT NIGERIA Dear Mr. Sir, REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE-STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL I am Dr. Bakare Tunde, the cousin of Nigerian Astronaut, Air Force Major Abacha Tunde. He was the first African in space when he made a secret flight to the Salyut 6 space station in 1979. He was on a later Soviet spaceflight, Soyuz T-16Z to the secret Soviet military space station Salyut 8T in 1989. He was stranded there in 1990 when the Soviet Union was dissolved. His other Soviet crew members returned to earth on the Soyuz T-16Z, but his place was taken up by return cargo. There have been occasional Progrez supply flights to keep him going since that time. He is in good humor, but wants to come home. In the 14-years since he has been on the station, he has accumulated flight pay and interest amounting to almost $15,000,000 American Dollars. This is held in a trust at the Lagos National Savings and Trust Association. If we can obtain access to this money, we can place a down payment with the Russian Space Authorities for a Soyuz return flight to bring him back to Earth. I am told this will cost $ 3,000,000 American Dollars. In order to access the his trust fund we need your assistance. Consequently, my colleagues and I are willing to transfer the total amount to your account or subsequent disbursement, since we as civil servants are prohibited by the Code of Conduct Bureau (Civil Service Laws) from opening and/ or operating foreign accounts in our names. Needless to say, the trust reposed on you at this juncture is enormous. In return, we have agreed to offer you 20 percent of the transferred sum, while 10 percent shall be set aside for incidental expenses (internal and external) between the parties in the course of the transaction. You will be mandated to remit the balance 70 percent to other accounts in due course. Kindly expedite action as we are behind schedule to enable us include downpayment in this financial quarter. Please acknowledge the receipt of this message via my direct number 234 (0) 9-234-2220 only. Yours Sincerely, Dr. Bakare Tunde Astronautics Project Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nasrda.gov.ng/ __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Alternate History
Gautam Mukunda wrote, on the Massachusetts Munster: It's from the Adams family, right? Nope, it's actually from a very similar series that ran at the same time (1964-6 according to IMDB) called The Munsters. Like the Addams, the Munsters freaked out ordinary people every week. Unlike most of the the Addams, the Munsters actually looked like monsters, including a Frankenstein's monster dad, a bride-of- Frankenstein/vampire mom, a vampire grampa, a werewolf son, and the joke: a generically beautiful blonde daughter who the others think is plain. Since the Addams Family started out in cartoons before the TV show, I would imagine that The Munsters are a rip-off of them. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The Return Of The Cows
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Jewish Capitalism: You have two cows. Your palestin neighbour has a (baby cow? what's the english name for that?). Calf. Also used for elephant and whale babies. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Calafia Contest --6th try
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (The list is still too serious.) ---this time without hitting the control button with my wrist: In GURPS Uplift, the main continent on Calafia is named Farley. Anybody know why? I have my own idea and want to see if anyone's thinking along the same lines. (Lurker Stefan Jones need not answer---yet.) William Taylor Were they all living in a van... down by the river? ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about three hours ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about five hours ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Anti-War Protesters Climb London's Big Ben
Robert Seeberger wrote: Two anti-war protesters evaded tight security to climb London's landmark Big Ben clock tower at the Houses of Parliament as thousands marched on the first anniversary of the invasion of Iraq on Saturday. The pair unfurled a banner which read Time for Truth before rappelling down from the clockface 328 feet above the capital six hours later. They were arrested on suspicion of causing criminal damage. We want to send a clear message to (Prime Minister) Tony Blair that we and the British people are fed up with the half-truths and evasions on Iraq, said Stephen Tindale, executive director of environmental group Greenpeace, which organized the stunt. So does this mean that Greepeace finally admits that they're motivated by unrelated politics, rather than actual concern for the environment? __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Deep South Con 42 Report
I got back from Deep South Con/Mid South Con in Memphis Sunday night. It was scheduled with David Brin as the Guest of Honor, and Todd Lockwood, who I've never heard of because he seems to do mostly fantasy illustration, as the Artist Guest of Honor. Kevin Lenagh of _Contacting Aliens_ fame, and C.J. Cherryh were listed as guests. The bad news: David Brin couldn't attend the con in person, because he got sick shortly before it started. The doctor wouldn't let him on the plane, because he was afraid everyone on board would catch whatever flu bug he had. So, he attended the con panels via speakerphone. He said he'd only missed two cons in the last 23 years, and both of them were in Tennessee. The good news: I spent a good bit of time talking to Kevin Lenagh during the course of the con, and everything else was fun. The schedule: My Dad and I left Hartselle, Alabama at around noon on Friday, and we started driving to Memphis. We arrived in town, checked into the nearby motel he'd set up reservations with a few days before, and found out it was right next door to the con, so we walked over. By a little before 5 PM, we were standing in a very slow line to get registered, which wasn't too bad, because we got to talk to some of the folks in line. About an hour and a half later, we got close enough to the registration desk to read a sign there: David Brin will not be appearing in person. He will attend panels by speakerphone. About half an hour after that, we were finally registered, but the printer that would have printed our badges ran out of ink right before they got to us. So, the lady in charge made temporary hand-written badges for us, and the people behind us in line were allowed to use their registration cards stamped Paid as temporary badges. So, we were the only ones with handwritten badges, which probably looked kinda suspicious. We eventually got real badges Saturday night, and I'm thankful to the people who worked so hard to deal with a *much* larger flood of people than they expected. When we were done, I took a stack of about ten of the flyers I'd made up, advertising my shirts, and put it on the handouts table. I went back to check every now and then during the run of the con, but as far as I could tell, no one ever took one. By the time we got registered, we'd missed the opening ceremony, but we were fortunately in time to go to Kevin Lenagh's slide show of his _Contacting Aliens_ illustrations -- which was basically a web page he'd put together, including icons he'd designed, written to a CD-ROM. He also showed some concept art that never made it into the book. When he forgot some of the names of Uplift stuff, I reminded him, and he noted that he liked my Streaker shirt, but I didn't officially introduce myself then. I was too shy to go up to talk to him, so I came up with some rationalization to put it off, like I tend to do. After that, we attended a NASA Update slide show, hosted by Les Johnson, the leader of the In-Space Propulsion Program at Marshall Spaceflight Center in Huntsville, who I'd met a few years ago at Con-Stellation. He discussed NASA's new direction, and talked about his recent work on solar sails. We left after midnight, and since the con was in a pretty rough-looking neighborhood, we nervously walked back to our motel. The next morning, we *drove* to the con's hotel, and ate breakfast at the hotel restaurant. They had a breakfast buffet with lousy selection and service, okay food, and high prices. When we got done, we attended a panel on teaching the Foundation books in the Classroom. It was pretty interesting, and David called in on speaker phone about halfway through. He made a lot of interesting points, but when someone is speaking over speakerphone, I never know where to look! ;-) We sat through another interesting education panel, about whether media SF is hurting education, and again, he called in about halfway through. We ended up talking to Les Johnson a good bit during lunch at the Con Suite. A little later, we went to Les' panel about Space Exploration and Environmentalism, with a good bit of discussion from the audience. After that, we spent a great deal of time in the Dealer's Room, where my Dad looked for rare old SF books on his list, while I mostly just looked around for anything interesting, mostly just window shopping. We also went to the art show, and made paper bids on three pieces. He bid on a proof showing a nice view of a planet's rings from inside its clouds. I bid on two Babylon 5 lithograph prints: one with portraits of the whole cast, with the station in the background, and one with portraits of G'Kar and Londo with Shadow ships. They also had originals of some of Kevin's _Contacting Aliens_ sketches, which were unfortunately out of my current budget range, or I almost certainly would have bought one. We went to the official autograph guest signings a little later that afternoon. We were a little early, so we didn't see Kevin there, or I would
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about an hour ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Libertarian Purity Test
Kevin Tarr wrote: http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi/purity.cgi I had 40. Kevin T. - VRWC Failed again 41, even though a lot of the questions were pretty crappy. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't
The Fool wrote a particular word every paragraph: FUCK FUCK SNIP I've heard claims that men think of sex every x-number of seconds. Is this proof? ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: America, land of the Ashcroft-haters
Robert Seeberger wrote: Quote: Bill Maher responded with the suggestion that the suicide hijackers of September 11th, 2001 were not cowardly because they stayed in the plane and died whereas the US military firing a cruise missile from 2000 miles away was cowardly. I uderstood it that way too. In particular, I though the comment was targeted at Clinton's actions, when he responded to the bombing of the Cole by flinging a couple of missiles at an Al Quaeda training camp, with no visible follow-through. A conservative wrote: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24606 Lay off Bill Maher. Debbie Schlussel One of PI's recurring guests, BTW. Julia Thompson wrote: And it was a really cool show, even when I thought that *everyone* was totally wrong on something. Agreed. I enjoyed the show from the moment I discovered it on Comedy Central all those years ago, until the final episode. I like Bill Maher, although I don't always agree with him. Plus, how many other network shows have SF writers like Ray Bradbury and Harlan Ellison as guests, and actually let them *talk* for more than a couple of minutes? The only other national show I can think of that did that was the late-night Tom Snyder show. I always hoped that they'd have Dr. Brin on Politically Incorrect. A discussion of Transparent Society would have been particularly interesting. Do you think it would have been shut down if it had still been on Comedy Central at that point? Anybody? Just curious. Probably not, because about the same time PI died on ABC, Comedy Central started airing Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn, a remarkably similar show. It's not as good as PI was, though, because it limits the guests to almost entirely standup comedians, and the discussions tend to have a lot less depth. It's the sort of show you'd get if PI and a comedy roast mated. ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Race to the Bottom
Gautam Mukunda wrote: Well, sort of. But it's already happened to secretaries, right? That's what voicemail/PIMs has done to that job. It's happened to a lot of manufacturing jobs - that's what automation has done. There's not any _conceptual_ difference between the two scenarios. Other than the amount of education/training required to learn to do the job that got replaced. A better analogy would probably be the highly trained artisans who lost their jobs to assembly line manufacturing. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br!n: Key Human-Brain Gene Found
Trent Shipley wrote: The Rats of NiMH? That's the one I was thinking about. It had fantasy elements -- the non-enhanced animals could talk, too. I'm wondering if anyone has ever written a hard science fiction version of the same premise, of enhanced rats escaping, then trying to form their own society on the fringes of human civiliaztion. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Weekly Chat Reminder
Jon Gabriel wrote: Thought I'd do this, since my last post got through and I'm not sure Steve's are... I actually just forgot, but I'm really glad you remembered. Thanks! __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Gas Prices
Robert Seeberger wrote: How much are you paying in your part of the country? $1.56 or so down the street from me, but the picture on drudge that linked to the article below shows $2.28. Yikes, that is high Last time I checked here, it was $1.699 per gallon for regular unleaded, and $1.799 for mid-grade, which I normally use. If the price stays that high for much longer, I may have to switch to the lower grade. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: 'Hobbitt,''Rings' Prequel, in the Works
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the best voice for Smaug is already doing Elrond. That didn't stop John Rhys Davies from playing both Gimli and the voice of Treebeard. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Gas Prices
Damon Agretto wrote: Ah if only they made a hybrid Jetta... A man after my own heart. :-) I currently drive a silver 2000 Jetta, and my previous car was a 1994 Jetta in some sort of weird eggplanty purple color. The one before that was a 1985 VW Golf, which drove very reliably for the whole time I owned it, even after I bashed in the front end in an accident. When I traded it in, it had 236,000 miles (sorry, Alberto!) on the odometer. I've had nothing but luck with Volkswagens so far, and if Volkswagen ever makes a hybrid -- or even better, a hydrogen fuel cell car -- I'll probably get it. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Bases, was Re: Stirling engine queries
David Hobby wrote: At the end of it, half of them say things like a cubic meter is a liter, which weighs a gram. While we're already talking about changing our number systems, maybe we should change metric to make that true, because those definitions make a *lot* more sense than the real ones. :-) Honestly, why the heck is a liter defined as a cubic *decimeter*? Granted, a cubic meter would make an awfully big base unit of volume, but it wouldn't really be any more awkward than a gram, which is too *small* to be really useful in everyday life. If the metric units weren't so awkwardly sized, there would be no need for two different sets of metric base units, cgs (cm, grams, seconds) and SI (meters, kilograms, seconds). Each set has to fudge one of the units by a factor of 1000 to get it to play well together with the other unit. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about fifteen minutes ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Race to the Bottom
The Fool wrote: Let's see India, China, or Russia belly up to the bar and pay their fair share of the hundreds-of-billions of dollars per year being stolen from the US Taxpayer to make outsourcing possible. ritu wrote: What does 'belly up to the bar' mean? From context, I think it means going to the bar and paying for your drinks -- in other words, paying up. And I am not sure what you mean by the rest of the sentence after that phrase either. Could you please elaborate? He's claiming that US taxpayers pay hundreds of billions of dollars a year to support the US military, which is necessary to keep world politics stable. Without that stability, outsourcing would not be possible. So, he's claiming that US citizens pay taxes to eliminate their own jobs, while citizens of China and India benefit for free. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica
Travis Edmunds wrote: Do you mean (A) singualarity? If so, I saw one the other night on TNG. If not...then could you explain? I probably am familiar with what you speak of, but it's not exactly rolling of my tongue. The Singularity Robert's talking about is metaphorically like a black hole-type singularity, because you can't see in from outside. The idea is that computing technology (and other technologies as well) has been increasing in speed and power exponentially. Assuming that exponential curve continues at the same rate, computers should have the raw processing power of a human brain in about 30 years or so, give or take a year or two. Moore's Law suggests that 18 months later, they'll be equivalent to 2 brains, then 18 months later, 4 brains, then 8 brains, 16 brains, etc. In the course of a few years, that effect should change society so much and so rapidly that people living before it happens can't even comprehend it, much less predict its effects with any reliability. Vernor Vinge is the main author who promoted the idea in science fiction, and serious stories since then have had to react to it. They either have to explain why it didn't happen in the particular far future society they're writing about, or find some way to imagine and write about a society where it did happen. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about an hour-and-a-half ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Bitter Mellons, Gin and Tonic, and a an Un- reasonable view.
Jan Coffey wrote: Dan used a portion of that statment out of context as if I were defending Hittler and then reqested citations for that deffence. I could easily be wrong, but I read Dan's response as a request for evidence that Hitler was appalled at what was going on. I know that was just a side-claim that wasn't your main argument there, but I'd like to see evidence for it myself, because it doesn't fit with anything I've heard about him. You're right that even if it was true, that doesn't absolve him of responsibility for the Holocaust. It seemed to me that Dan trimmed that part, not because he was trying to make you look like you were defending Hitler, but because he wasn't commenting on it. But you're right, that snipping could make you look really bad, taken out of context. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tyranny
Doug Pensinger wrote: You know, when I witness the joy that the San Fransisco initiative has brought to those that have hertofore been unable to make their love for each other official (however temporal it's legitimacy),it makes me wonder how on earth good-hearted people can be against this kind of thing. I thought the same sort of thing about the medical marijuana issue, but plenty of people still found a way to oppose it. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Polygonorrhea [was: BRin-L - are we average?]
Alberto Monteiro wrote: No more! I found the magic word that I had to utter! The spell is glEnable(GL_DEPTH_TEST); Whoops! I never even thought of that! That turns in the Z-buffer functionality that allows OpenGL to actually hide the parts of objects that are behind other objects. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about twenty minutes ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Irregulars Question: CGI vs Traditional Movies
My sister is doing a finance class project about Pixar, and she's looking for more background and trend information: I'm researching the trend of CGI in movies. Do you know of any good websites that I could check out? I'm trying to analyze from 1998 to 2003. I just want to find out how much more CGI is used in movies. I checked out websites for Pixar and ILM, but they didn't help me with opinions. A little later... I think I might just be looking for sites that discuss where the CGI industry is right now, by itself and relative to the market. Does anyone here have some better links? I already sent these: The Animation World Network site has several articles and essays about the animation business, but it's probably pretty tough to find the ones you need: http://www.awn.com/ Computer Graphics World site: http://cgw.pennnet.com/home.cfm History of Computer Animation in the Movies http://www.vanishingpoint.biz/movies.asp Miscellaneous: Special Effects Society http://www.visualeffect.com/effectssocietyvisual/ Visual Effects Headquarters http://www.vfxhq.com/faq/index.html Thanks in advance. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: OpenGL
Alberto Monteiro wrote: I must be doing something _really_ stupid, but why I can't draw even a simple tetrahedron with OpenGL? One of the faces does not show :-/ Is there any magic word that I must utter before it works? I have two guesses: 1) Could OpenGL be culling the back-facing polygons? Try changing GL_FRONT to GL_FRONT_AND_BACK in various places, and see if that fixes it. 2) How are you drawing the tetrahedron? Are you using GL_TRIANGLES, or more complicated approaches like GL_TRIANGLE_STRIP or GL_TRIANGLE_FAN? If it's one of the latter two, you may be defining your points in the wrong order, which could either cause some triangles not to draw at all, or to flip the normal on one or more of the triangles, so they look like back-facing polygons (see (1)). __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: OpenGL
Alberto Monteiro wrote: The program is as simple as possible, and all but the first triangle appear correctly. The first triangle, however, is invisible. Essentially, this is the OpenGL part of the program: glLoadIdentity(); glTranslatef(0.0f,0.0f,-15.0f); glRotated(m_angulo, m_x, m_y, m_z); glBegin(GL_TRIANGLES); // Draw Triangles glNormal3f(1.0f, 1.0f, 1.0f); // should be the yellow face, but is invisible glColor3f(1.0f, 1.0f, 0.0f); glVertex3f(1.0f, 0.0f, 0.0f); glVertex3f(0.0f, 1.0f, 0.0f); glVertex3f(0.0f, 0.0f, 1.0f); I think you should get rid of the glNormal statement. It's not the correct normal for a flat triangle with the vertices you've given. If the object you want to create has perfectly flat faces, you should avoid specifying normals at all. Just let OpenGL automatically generate the correct normal. You should only specify normals if you're trying to create a smoothly curving object. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Sloan3D Store Update -- Black shirts now available
Julia Thompson wrote: I don't know what's common these days. Do the dark colors include one somewhere between green and blue? :) (And would that color be available in XL?) I can certainly look. Last time I was in the local Hobby Lobby, a few weeks ago, they had some XL shirts in some unusual colors, so they might have a dark blue-green shirt. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: FOOLish
Travis Edmunds wrote: In all honesty, I have no idea what those four memes are. And quite frankly, I don't overly care. If I ever stumble across them though, I shall store them in my clueless brain. The essay where Dr. Brin described them is easy to miss, unless you've either been reading everything Dr. Brin wrote in the last ten or twelve years, or you've been reading this list for a few years. They're listed in his essay, The New Meme. You can find a copy here: http://hsv.com/editorials/davidbrin/dbrin2.htm Or in his short story collection, _Otherness_, under the title The Commonwealth of Wonder. The five memes he describes in the essay are Feudalism, Machismo, Paranoia, The East, and the new one, Otherness. It's a good essay, but not so good that I'll think you're clueless if you haven't read it. ;-) Wow, it's a small world. I ran a Google search for Brin new meme, and the first site I found is in a virtual newspaper from right here in Huntsville, Alabama. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Sloan3D Store Update -- Black shirts now available
I released my first t-shirt design for sale a couple of months ago, featuring a high-quality single frame from the Izmunuti animation I created a few years ago... http://www.sloansteady.com/#anims ...showing Streaker getting hammered inside the red giant Izmunuti. The CafePress.com site I've been using to print and sell these shirts on demand has an annoying inability to print designs on dark shirts, so I decided to do those myself. My online store now offers shirts in black, and just about any other common shirt color you'd like, for $17 per shirt, plus shipping. I'm donating one dollar from the price of each shirt you purchase to the charity of your choice. As always, I'm also offering Universal Kilns temporary tattoos, for $3 per sheet of three tattoos, with fifty cents from each tattoo sheet purchase going to charity. I'm also donating one dollar per shirt for the usual white and gray shirts from CafePress. My main store site has links to all the merchandise I currently have available: http://www.sloan3d.com/store/ You can see a preview image of one of my t-shirts at the T-Shirt Store: http://www.sloan3d.com/store/shirts.html Temporary Tattoos Store: http://www.sloan3d.com/store/ditto_tattoos.html Original Sloan3D CafePress Store: http://www.cafeshops.com/Sloan3D I hope to complete more shirt designs soon. And thanks, Dr. Brin, for linking your page to my store site: http://davidbrin.com/ __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Introducing Fenris
The Fool wrote: You could make a shorter catagory that includes both religion and politics called Evil:. So, given your tendency to post political articles and essays, does that make you the list's biggest source of Evil? __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about forty minutes ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Travis Edmunds Pictures
I've added two new pictures of Travis Edmunds to the Brin-L Memberpix pages. To see them, go to my main picture page: http://www.sloan3d.com/cgi-bin/memberpix.cgi Or go directly to: http://www.sloan3d.com/cgi-bin/memberpix.cgi?person=travis __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Reviews for Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Jews OK Mel's film MEL Gibson's controversial film about the last hours of Jesus's life is unlikely to incite hostility against Jews, the Executive Council of Australian Jewry Isn't that what they call bracelets, rings, etc. in Alabama? ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: v*r*s question
Kevin Tarr wrote: I started getting mail saying something from me was undeliverable. AVG said it had the myd**m v*r*s in it. AVG isn't finding the v*r*s anywhere else, just the mail coming in. Since them I'm getting messages coming in with the v*r*s. But I'm more confused by the returned mail. Is my computer sending out mail with me knowing it? Or is my mail being spoofed, it's being sent from somewhere else with my address? Or third option, is this a backwards way to get a person to open mail, it sends you a bogus e-mail claiming to be a delivery failure? From what I understand, it's option two, with three as a side effect. It infected somebody who has your email address in their address book, then used that information to send itself in your name to other systems. One of those other systems had an automated virus scanner, that griped at you because the virus it got claimed to be from you. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about an hour ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: raising the dead in the sims
Alberto Monteiro wrote: My 10-year-old daughter accidentally killed my 4-year-old's character. Is there any way to raise de dead? Alberto Monteiro in panic mode PS: yes, I know the sims is evil and must be eradicated Maybe you can generate a red-headed lesbian witch character to do it. ;-) But seriously, does somebody else have a *real* suggestion? :-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Uplift Timeline (was Tg Territories)
Trent Shipley wrote: 620 MYA: The ecologically insensitive Lions dominate the Galaxies. Ash spreads through 30% of Galaxy One and 20% of Galaxy Two. Complex sea life on Earth. I think I remember the Cambrian Explosion being closer to 560 MYA, but it's been a while since I read about it. 12 MYA: The last recorded wolfling race, the Paranaj, is discovered. Within 1000 years it is extinct. Duplicate entry. See 52 KYA. 52 KYA: The last recorded wolfling race, the Paranaj, is discovered. Within a thousand years, it is extinct. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Martian Emotion (was Easterbrook on Bush's NASA plan)
Reggie Bautista wrote: The Martian Way? Never heard of it. Any idea if it's available in any of the copious numbers of Asimov anthologies out there? According to the Internet SF Database site: http://isfdb.tamu.edu/cgi-bin/pw.cgi?6e2806 It's been published in these books/magazines: 1. Galaxy Science Fiction, November 1952, H. L. Gold, 1952, $0.35 2. The Martian Way and Other Stories, Isaac Asimov, 1955, Doubleday, hc 3. Worlds to Come, Damon Knight, 1967, Harper Row, LCC# AC 67-10130, $4.95, hc 4. The Best of Isaac Asimov, Isaac Asimov, 1973, Sidgwick Jackson, hc 5. Science Fiction Hall of Fame Volume 2B, Ben Bova, 1973, Doubleday, hc 6. The Science Fiction Hall of Fame, Volume 2B, Ben Bova, 1974, Avon Books, 0-380-00054-7, pb 7. Prisoners of the Stars, Isaac Asimov, 1979, Doubleday, hc 8. The Great SF Stories 14 (1952), Isaac Asimov, 1985 9. The Asimov Chronicles: Fifty Years of Isaac Asimov, Isaac Asimov+Martin H. Greenberg, 1989, Dark Harvest, 0-913165-44-1, $21.95 The copy I own is in the mid 80s Asimov collection _Robot Dreams_. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Attn Br!n: Hoon Genius
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our artist of Contacting Aliens has not yet answered back. If Brin does not do it, I'll have to try to fill in. We have to have a hoon dressed up as the Mikado. It's too good. If I ever get around to building a Hoon 3D model, which I plan to do for a shirt someday, I could probably do it. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about an half an hour ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about an hour-and-a-half ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Minimal Profits for Halliburton
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: I don't know about financial models, but I do know that judgement, especially when immediate judgement on critical issues is necessary, is affected by fatigue. For one thing, tired people tend to be grumpy people, and may do things they later regret. I think both of us are looking at this issue from a programmer's viewpoint, where long hours usually *are* a sign of poor planning, either by the managers who didn't hire enough people, or on the software engineering side, where time for completing tasks was severely underestimated. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Fwd: What Not to Do During LOTRs
Subject: [Larryniven-l] OT: What Not to Do During LOTRs Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:34:32 - From: Nesssus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Larry Niven Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ln-l [EMAIL PROTECTED] Originally posted: http://stupidevilbastard.com/archives/2003/11/20/what_not_to_do_during_return_of_the_king.php [Some Return of the King spoilers ahead...] 1. Stand up halfway through the movie and yell loudly, Wait... where the hell is Harry Potter? 2. Block the entrance to the theater while screaming: YOU SHALL NOT PASS! - After the movie, say Lucas could have done it better. 3. Play a drinking game where you have to take a sip every time someone says: The Ring. 4. Point and laugh whenever someone dies. 5. Ask everyone around you if they think Gandalf went to Hogwarts. 6. Finish off every one of Elrond's lines with Mr. Anderson. 7. When Aragorn is crowned king, stand up and at the top of your lungs sing, And I did it MY way...! 8. Talk like Gollum all through the movie. At the end, bite off someone's finger and fall down the stairs. 9. Dress up as old ladies and reenact The Battle of Helms Deep Monty Python style. 10. When Denethor lights the fire, shout Barbecue! 11. In TTT when the Ents decide to march to war, stand up and shout RUN FOREST, RUN! 12. Every time someone kills an Orc, yell: That's what I'm Tolkien about! See how long it takes before you get kicked out of the theatre. 13. During a wide shot of a battle, inquire, Where's Waldo? 14. Talk loudly about how you heard that there is a single frame of a nude Elf hidden somewhere in the movie. 15. Start an Orc sing-a-long. 16. Come to the premiere dressed as Frankenfurter and wander around looking terribly confused. 17. When they go in the paths of the dead, wait for tense moment and shout, I see dead people! 18. Imitate what you think a conversation between Gollum, Dobby and Yoda would be like. 19. Release a jar of daddy-long-legs into the theater during the Shelob scene. 20. Wonder out loud if Aragorn is going to run for governor of California. 21. When Shelob comes on, exclaim, Man! Charlotte's really let herself go! __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about an hour ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: SCOUTED: Case of Foot-in-Mouth Disease Found in New York Senator
Jon Gabriel wrote: After reading the article, I wondered if Apu from the Simpsons also drew ire when he first debuted. Safety in numbers. The show has slurred just about every nationality or minority I can think of, so Apu got lost in the flood. :-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Minimal Profits for Halliburton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: Minimal Profits for Halliburton Maybe they should sell tee-shirts? (According to a different thread) Ed McMahon voice Hey-ohhh! /Ed McMahon voice ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Overpriced Shirts and Irregulars Question
Kevin Tarr wrote: I'm only asking this from a business POV. There are many things I do not know and would like some details. Let me back up a step. I get t-shirts made for two groups I'm involved in. I'm assuming you are not the one making those shirts, that physically you never touch them. Correct. My point is: if you are only making $3, then the company charges $14. Subtracting the cost of shipping, they are making up to if not over 200% profit. Some of that may be taken by their location (California), and definitely by website costs but that is a nice margin for not doing any extra work. On your side is the infamous Laffer curve. You aren't collecting taxes, but there is a relationship between what you charge and what you'll get back. Do you expect a hundred people to buy the shirt? Would 150 buy it if the price dropped another dollar? (I'm assuming no on both questions.) Yeah, you're probably right -- it's hard to imagine me getting that many sales, at least at first. My initial plan was to sell a few shirts through the site as a proof of concept, to see how they sell, before trying to get my own shirts made locally, and shipping them out myself. The first shirt isn't selling through the site so far, at least not at the current price. Some time this week, I'll see what it takes (and costs) to print shirts locally, and see if doing that can lower the price enough to help. What does the image feel like? Is it inkjetted on or like an iron-on? I'm embarassed to say that I haven't tried ordering from there yet. I just plain didn't do enough research beforehand. At least I was careful to read the legal agreement, to make sure I get to keep copyright on the images I upload to them (I do). I didn't think to check out reviews of the print quality. What I've found doesn't sound too good, like this epinions.com review of the store: http://www.epinions.com/content_67901361796 FABRIC ITEMS NEED IMPROVEMENT: The fabric items are much like the print-at-home and iron-on products you can buy locally. They only have white and ash shirts because the design is printed on a white heat-applied fabric. It's not professional looking, in my opinion. I've ordered the boxers and t-shirts and while I think they're a great idea, they need more work to be worth the money. The reviewer does seem to really like the quality of other items like mugs and ceramic tiles. Maybe I should concentrate on those. Charities, what about the WWF? Their expenditures are high, but I don't give them money so no harm no foul. It's certainly one to research, at least. Thanks. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Overpriced Shirts and Irregulars Question
I'm pretty sure I set the price of the shirt at my online store too high, so as an apology, I've decreased it from $19.99 to $16.99. Do y'all consider $3 of profit per shirt fair? http://www.cafeshops.com/Sloan3D As for the Irregulars question, Dr. Brin suggested that I donate part of each sale I make at my store to an appropriate charity, as a way to promote my store and do good at the same time. Which groups do good work preserving wildlife in general? Which ones are good at protecting the individual species that are so important to the Uplift stories, the dolphins, whales, chimps, and gorillas? And one other thing: Please don't hesitate to gripe at me if you think I'm spamming the list. :-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: No longer filtering.
Michael Harney wrote: I'm not filtering anymore. I've reviewed recent posts in the archives, and I think I'll be fine for now. As fair warning, my last post did have a question about the best organizations for protecting wildlife, but I'm hoping any thread that comes out of my question will be positive. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Universal Kilns Temporary Tattoos now available
When I first announced my online store, I said I was planning to eventually sell temporary tattoos with the Universal Kilns logo from _Kiln People_. They are now available for sale, and they're an essential part of a ditto costume, ideal for Halloween, or Masquerade at science fiction conventions. You can find a link at my online store: http://www.sloan3d.com/store/ Or go directly to this site: http://www.sloan3d.com/store/ditto_tattoos.html In addition to purchasing instructions and a preview of the logo, the store page also has suggestions for ditto makeup color and clothing, and instructions for applying the tattoos. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, about five-and-a-half hours ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about five-and-a-half hours ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: SCOUTED/Fwd: Seasonal Puzzle
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: The letters form an acronym of a Christmas song. Name the song, win my gratitude grin. Some are easy, others aren't. Here are the answers my sister and I were able to come up with this morning: 1. TCS (CROAOF) The Christmas Song (Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire) 2. HYMLC Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas 3. IBHFC I'll Be Home for Christmas 4. FFAJP 5. AIWFCIMTFT All I Want for Christmas is My Two Front Teeth 6. ISMKSC I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus 7. SN Silent Night 8. OHN Oh, Holy Night 9. FTS 10. AF (OCAYF) Adeste Fidelis (O Come, All Ye Faithful) 11. IDOWC I'm Dreaming of a White Christmas 12. TTDOC The Twelve Days of Christmas 13. HCSC Here Comes Santa Claus 14. WW Winter Wonderland 15. SB Silver Bells 16. JB Jingle Bells 17. OLTOB O, Little Town of Bethlehem 18. WTK We Three Kings 19. TLDB The Little Drummer Boy 20. LHAREB 21. ATTN 22. BHC 23. GB 24. GKW Good King Wenceslaus (sp?) 25. CC 26. HWCAW Here We Come A'Wassailing (sp?) 27. JJOMD 28. MHAB 29. JOSN Jolly Old Saint Nicholas 30. COCE __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Brin-L and Discover Top 100
A former Brineller made number 11 out of Discover magazine's top 100 science stories of 2003, listed in the January 2004 issue. At first, scientists thought that an object orbiting a pulsar in globular cluster M4 was simply a small star or brown dwarf. Steinn Sigurdsson and his colleagues at Pennsylvania State University determined that it is actually the oldest and most distant known planet in the universe, formed 12.7 billion years ago, only about one billion years after the Big Bang. The planet is a gas giant over twice the mass of Jupiter, currently orbiting a pulsar after a long, complicated history of switching dance partners. :-) The discovery suggests that life could have evolved 5 or 6 billion years earlier than anyone expected. Discover's web site won't show this issue online for a few months, but Steinn's site has more information about the discovery: http://www.astro.psu.edu/users/steinn/ __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Outlandish but exceedingly fun.
William T Goodall wrote: In Heinlein's books, humans are always the toughest species in the cosmos. It was also a notion that Analog editor John W Campbell was keen on with the result that there were a couple of generations of sf where the clever/tough/plucky/lucky humans defeated the aliens against overwhelming odds. I read somewhere that Asimov had a humans-only universe to sidestep that editorial requirement. Then wrote _The Gods Themselves_ (with aliens) after JWC's death. That's also what I remember reading. In fact, it was this very subject that first got me on Brin-L. I read a comment on Hector's web site wondering why Asimov used an all-human Galaxy, and I emailed him that answer. He invited me onto his new David Brin list, and the rest is history. :-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it's starting now. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Houston Get-Together?
I'm going to be flying to Houston, Texas to visit my brother on the afternoon of Thursday, December 18. Any Brinellers (or even lurkers?) in the Houston area want to meet some time between the 19th and 23rd or so? __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Science Fiction In General...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I happened to like 'Engle Against The Stars' Didn't she write A _Wrinkle in Time_? ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about an hour ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Two Towers Extended DVD
G. D. Akin wrote: You're in Huntsville I am. Ronn's in the Birmingham area. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Announcing the Sloan3D Store
I have finished what I hope will be the first of many pieces of merchandise decorated with my illustrations. This one is a shirt featuring a high-quality single frame from the Izmunuti animation I created a few years ago... http://www.sloansteady.com/#anims ...showing Streaker getting hammered inside the red giant Izmunuti. I emailed to ask David Brin for permission a couple of months ago, and I finally got something finished. To see the shirt, you can go to the intro page, where I talk about future merchandise I'm planning: http://www.sloan3d.com/store/ Or go directly to the main store page: http://www.cafeshops.com/sloan3d Special thanks go to: David Brin, for writing the original works that inspired these illustrations, and for graciously allowing me to use them in my merchandise. April Apperson Farrell, for first showing me what Streaker looks like in that sketch inside _Startide_ so many years ago, which heavily influenced the design of my Streaker 3D model; and for being so nice when I asked her blessing for selling a design so similar to hers. Dean MacLanders, for giving me the idea to sell t-shirts in the first place, and for giving me many helpful suggestions since. Bill Vilyehm Teighlore Taylor, for suggesting a lot of silly and not-so-silly ideas that will probably go into future shirts. My Mom, Dad, and sister Corie, for helping me polish up the caption on the Izmunuti shirt. Dee Daley, William T. Goodall, and the rest of the weekly chat regulars who have contributed several ideas. Anyone else I might have forgotten. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Challenge: 80's Lyrics Quiz
Gary Nunn wrote: Kind of long, and my score was embarrassingly low...but fun. http://www.yetanotherdot.com/asp/80s.html I did slightly better: Final Score: 137 Now, if only I could score as well on *useful* knowledge! :-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it's starting right now. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: A year ago today...
Doug Pensinger wrote: I'm not sure how you would look it up. The list pre-dates the (woefully inadiquate) list archive at Yahoo. Julia would know for sure, but I'll guess it was somewhere around August, 1995. Some time after I joined the list, I sent in requests for the list digests from before I joined to the listserv. I kept them, as well as all email I received from the list after I joined. I sent those files in to Jeroen a while back, in the hopes that he would be able to throw together a complete web-based digest of the early list -- a project that fell through, for obvious reasons. I still have zip files containing digests from the early days, from April 15, 1996 to March 1998 -- which reminds me that I need to get around to making them available on a website one of these days. This is the first digest I got, which suggests the list got its first post on April 15, 1996: -- BRIN-L Digest 1 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: your mail by Stewart Blandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Re: your mail by [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 12:03:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Stewart Blandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Stefan, Could you please tell me more about GURPS Uplift. I've never heard about this. I assume it's a role playing game of some kind. There seems to be a source of information on the Uplift universe. Did David Brin write this information or is it speculations by other authors? There's some discrepancy here. Startide Rising seems to state that the Milky Way is Galaxy One. I just recently reread Startide Rising and did not get the impression the Brin was locating it anywhere yet. It is in Brightness that a definitive answer is give (if I can find the page no. I forward it to you) Stewart -- Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 19:39:36 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 96-04-15 16:08:13 EDT, you write: Could you please tell me more about GURPS Uplift. I've never heard about this. GURPS is a role-playing system published by Steve Jackson Games (http://www.io.com/sjgames). GURPS Uplift was a worldbook that let you roleplay in the Uplift universe. It's out of print, and probably will stay that way unless I have time to update it. And people ask for it . . . I assume it's a role playing game of some kind. There seems to be a source of information on the Uplift universe. Oooh yeah. Jam-packed. And some stuff got left out! Did David Brin write this information or is it speculations by other authors? It's either derived from the books, supplied by Dave via notes, or made up by me (and some friends) and given a stamp of approval. (The Jophur/Treakie of Brightness Reef owe some to the Jophur construction kit rules in the game book, which is fine by me!) --Stefan -- End of BRIN-L Digest 1 ** __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: A year ago today...
Jon Gabriel wrote: Would you be willing to email them -- completely at your convenience -- to some of us (ok, me) if we made requests? I'll be happy to. Just be prepared, because the zip files total a little over 15 MB. They also aren't very organized, with LarryNiven-L posts from the same days mixed in with the Brin-L posts. Want me to go ahead and send them? __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Explanation
Dan Minette wrote: I heard that Hubberd made up Scientology as a scam to make lots of money, and didn't really believe at all. Does anyone know how accurate/inaccurate this is? I remember reading somewhere that Hubbard made a bet with another SF writer about it. He bet that he could create a false religion to make money, like psychology, not long before Scientology started. I wish I knew where I read it, though. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Dastardly spammer
Jack Amico wrote: Nick: One of my hotmail based kids must have hit one of their pages, opening a door to getting a Mirer(sp?) bar on my IE browser. I've tried everything including playing a little (remember, I'm a little past newbie) with the registry - removed everything I can find, set my firewall to block them and I still can't get the damn bar out of the browser. Have you had any further experience with these bastards? I've even reinstalled Windows 2K IE. Any suggestions short of driving to Toronto to talk with the jerk myself? Try Spybot Search and Destroy: http://www.safer-networking.org/ and AdAware: http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/ __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about three hours ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Don't read while eating Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
Julia Thompson wrote: can't be any worse than what I've already dealt with this morning, right? Kosh Never ask that question! /Kosh :-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Hoon family names and etiquette.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS ---Post it, Steve. Done: http://www.sloan3d.com/brinl/stories/neverassume.html BTW, which title do you prefer? Hoon family etiquette or Never Assume? __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about three-and-a-half hours ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: DRAFT Brin update
d.brin wrote: If your large organization needs a speaker, drop by www.davidbrin.com/speaker. Needs to be www.davidbrin.com/speaker.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: It's a boy!
Matt Grimaldi wrote: Andrew Michael Grimaldi, Born 23-Oct-2003 at 6:52 p.m. 10 lb., 8 oz. 20.5 inches Both baby and mother are doing well, though Andrew was transfered to the NICU at another hospital to monitor a couple of potentially serious conditions. He has recovered well, has maintained his weight, and, at this point, the only reason he's still in the NICU is to complete his antibiotics. We expect him home on Saturday. Pictures can be found at: http://users.adelphia.net/~matzebrei/ Congratulations! __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about an hour ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Hal Clement, Science Fiction Author, Dies at 81
From his publisher earlier today: From: Heather Drucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ++Tor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Heather Drucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HAL CLEMENT, SCIENCE FICTION AUTHOR, DIES AT 81 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:19:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: HAL CLEMENT, SCIENCE FICTION AUTHOR, DIES AT 81 Hal Clement (Harry Clement Stubbs), influential science fiction author and resident of Milton, MA, passed away today, October 29th, 2003. A retired school teacher (Milton Academy), WWII pilot, and scout leader, Hal Clement began writing science fiction in the 1940s, devoting himself to the creation of cleverly imagined and thoroughly worked out environments elsewhere in space. His devotion to the astronomy, physics and chemistry of other worlds became famous with the publication of the novel Mission of Gravity in 1954. Clement soon gained a worldwide reputation as a quintessential science fiction writer, whose works more or less defined the term. Clement's work continues to be the most influential model for hard science fiction writers. He was named a SFWA Grand Master by the Science Fiction Writers of America in 1998 in recognition of a lifetime achievement in the field. Clement was born in Somerville, Massachusetts on May 30, 1922, to Harry Clarence Stubbs and Marjorie (White) Stubbs. He grew up in Greater Boston, attending schools in Arlington and Cambridge, finishing Rindge Tech in 1939. Clement earned a B.S. in Astronomy, Harvard, 1943, an M.Ed. on the GI Bill, Boston University, 1946, and an M.S. in Chemistry from Simmons College, 1963. He was commissioned as a lieutenant in the Army Air Corps Reserve in 1944 and retired as a colonel in 1976. Married in 1952, Clement is survived by his wife Mary, two sons George and Richard, daughter Christine Hensel, and grandson Jackson. Some books by Hal Clement: Needle (1950) Iceworld (1953) Mission of Gravity (1954) Cycle of Fire (1957) Close to Critical (1964) Small Changes (1969) Ocean On Top (1973) Through the Eye of a Needle (1978) The Nitrogen Fix (1980) Still River (1987) Isaac's Universe: Fossil (1993) Half Life (1999) Noise (2003) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: [A4P] Introducing Matt Lundstrom
Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote: Can't help you there, but when it comes to graphics design you really ought to go talk to our local artist, Steve Sloan. Our resident timeline maniac, Alberto Monteiro, could also be of great help. Like I said, if you need help you only have to ask. Welcome, Matt! It's always good to see another person straddling both Brin-Ls. :-) I'm glad to hear somebody's taking over that Uplift encyclopedia. I'll be happy to help if I can. And, by the way, I'm hoping we'll see you in the weekly Brin-L chat on Wednesdays. See my site for details: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about five hours ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
