Re: Nothing to do?
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/nerd_sniping.png http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/nerd_sniping.png And then there are those of us who would be sniped. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Nothing to do?
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/nerd_sniping.png And then there are those of us who would be sniped. :) I could see myself falling victim to that as well. Though maybe not for a physics problem. That one would likely just get a blank stare. :-p Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/nerd_sniping.png http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/nerd_sniping.png -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such
At 08:08 PM Friday 2/11/2005, William T Goodall wrote: On 11 Feb 2005, at 11:33 pm, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: You Put Gas In The Tank And Turn The Key: What Else Do You Need To Know About Cars Maru How to turn the alarm off when you set it off accidentally? Apparently that's _not_ what the other button on the remote on the key ring is for . . . AFAICT It's A NOOP Maru --Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 08:08 PM Friday 2/11/2005, William T Goodall wrote: On 11 Feb 2005, at 11:33 pm, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: You Put Gas In The Tank And Turn The Key: What Else Do You Need To Know About Cars Maru How to turn the alarm off when you set it off accidentally? Apparently that's _not_ what the other button on the remote on the key ring is for . . . AFAICT It's A NOOP Maru NOOP? I know what MOOP is, but NOOP? Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such
On Feb 12, 2005, at 8:52 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 08:08 PM Friday 2/11/2005, William T Goodall wrote: On 11 Feb 2005, at 11:33 pm, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: You Put Gas In The Tank And Turn The Key: What Else Do You Need To Know About Cars Maru How to turn the alarm off when you set it off accidentally? Apparently that's _not_ what the other button on the remote on the key ring is for . . . AFAICT It's A NOOP Maru NOOP? I know what MOOP is, but NOOP? NOOP = no operation -- it's a term from programming, in particular, from assembly language programming. Through its use, Ronn! reveals himself as an old fart. Through my reply, I do, too. Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such
At 10:52 AM Saturday 2/12/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 08:08 PM Friday 2/11/2005, William T Goodall wrote: On 11 Feb 2005, at 11:33 pm, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: You Put Gas In The Tank And Turn The Key: What Else Do You Need To Know About Cars Maru How to turn the alarm off when you set it off accidentally? Apparently that's _not_ what the other button on the remote on the key ring is for . . . AFAICT It's A NOOP Maru NOOP? I know what MOOP is, but NOOP? Also written no-op, or sometimes the mnemonic is NOP (and the subject line no longer applies) In Other Words Think Computers Maru (Assembly Language Class) --Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such
On 2/11/05 9:47 AM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is any such problem, I'd imagine that using a relay, so that the drain comes straight off the battery, would mitigate it, since car batteries act as pretty good voltage regulators on their own. Never heard of such a problem, though. I agree with Nick on this, mostly because auto computers are pretty well isolated from lighting circuits and other high amperage automotive systems. Since I come from the Tim Allen school of automotive lighting (I am a fan of rally racing and lots of big driving lights), I suggest the following website for all your automotive lighting needs... http://www.rallylights.com They even have a diagram of the basic wiring diagram. And if you need it you can purchase a wiring kit from them. The diagram is at: http://www.rallylights.com/useful_info/auxiliary_lamp_wiring.htm If you need more answers, now you know who to call! Matthew Bos ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such
At 11:20 AM Saturday 2/12/2005, Dave Land wrote: On Feb 12, 2005, at 8:52 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 08:08 PM Friday 2/11/2005, William T Goodall wrote: On 11 Feb 2005, at 11:33 pm, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: You Put Gas In The Tank And Turn The Key: What Else Do You Need To Know About Cars Maru How to turn the alarm off when you set it off accidentally? Apparently that's _not_ what the other button on the remote on the key ring is for . . . AFAICT It's A NOOP Maru NOOP? I know what MOOP is, but NOOP? NOOP = no operation -- it's a term from programming, in particular, from assembly language programming. Through its use, Ronn! reveals himself as an old fart. Through my reply, I do, too. Yes, I have indeed farted around in assembly language . . . --Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such
On 12 Feb 2005, at 9:01 am, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 08:08 PM Friday 2/11/2005, William T Goodall wrote: On 11 Feb 2005, at 11:33 pm, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: You Put Gas In The Tank And Turn The Key: What Else Do You Need To Know About Cars Maru How to turn the alarm off when you set it off accidentally? Apparently that's _not_ what the other button on the remote on the key ring is for . . . You have another button? Mrs Wife got a newer car for Xmas and there is one button on the remote. After eventually getting around to reading the manual (none for the stereo though) it turns out that pressing and *holding* it flashes a light to tell you if the batteries in the remote are getting flat. Also remotely shuts the windows and sun-roof to the severe detriment of anyone with bits poking out... Opaque UI for sure. Maybe the second button shuts the windows or something? -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Putting an infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of keyboards will _not_ result in the greatest work of all time. Just look at Windows. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Well, sort of, but not the type we are using here: I am thinking of adding driving/fog lamps to a 1995 vehicle which did not originally have them. Someone (a man at church who sold cars part-time) told me a long time ago that doing something like that which adds a significant extra electrical load to the system can cause problems on cars built within the past 20 years or so which have a computer as part of the electrical/ignition system. Does anyone know if that is true, or is it safe to add them? Obviously it will do no good to mess something up and render the vehicle inoperable. (FWIW, I have experience installing such lights on an older (pre-computer-as-an-essential-part-of-the-system) vehicle . . . ) If there is any such problem, I'd imagine that using a relay, so that the drain comes straight off the battery, would mitigate it, since car batteries act as pretty good voltage regulators on their own. Never heard of such a problem, though. Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Well, sort of, but not the type we are using here: I am thinking of adding driving/fog lamps to a 1995 vehicle which did not originally have them. Someone (a man at church who sold cars part-time) told me a long time ago that doing something like that which adds a significant extra electrical load to the system can cause problems on cars built within the past 20 years or so which have a computer as part of the electrical/ignition system. Does anyone know if that is true, or is it safe to add them? Obviously it will do no good to mess something up and render the vehicle inoperable. (FWIW, I have experience installing such lights on an older (pre-computer-as-an-essential-part-of-the-system) vehicle . . . ) If there is any such problem, I'd imagine that using a relay, so that the drain comes straight off the battery, would mitigate it, since car batteries act as pretty good voltage regulators on their own. Never heard of such a problem, though. Nick good call Nick, that is actualy the process that you would go through. the only time that you would not have to worry about it is if the car had the option for Fog Lamps. then in that case their would be no need for a relay, as the computer and electrical system has already been setup ofr the hardware. for example, '93 Grand Cherokee's, have the option for fog lamps. Through the dealer you can purchase a new dash mounted switch, that would replace the existing one for the head lamps. The New switch has the option for the fog lamps already built in, no need for extra wiring needed to be ran back to the dash. just plug in the module to the switch, and run a new module from the wiring harness to the lamps. However for cost, it is much cheaper to run a new switch and relay. Nick good call Nck Lidster ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snippage I am thinking of adding driving/fog lamps to a 1995 vehicle which did not originally have them... Oof, my first visual was those banked-over-the-cab lights one sees on pick-ups, and I thought Ronn!'s not a jacklighting bubba Then my frontal cortex caught up with my occipital, and Reason prevailed. ;-D Debbi Corpus Callosum Redux Maru ;) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such
At 08:47 AM Friday 2/11/2005, Nick Arnett wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Well, sort of, but not the type we are using here: I am thinking of adding driving/fog lamps to a 1995 vehicle which did not originally have them. Someone (a man at church who sold cars part-time) told me a long time ago that doing something like that which adds a significant extra electrical load to the system can cause problems on cars built within the past 20 years or so which have a computer as part of the electrical/ignition system. Does anyone know if that is true, or is it safe to add them? Obviously it will do no good to mess something up and render the vehicle inoperable. (FWIW, I have experience installing such lights on an older (pre-computer-as-an-essential-part-of-the-system) vehicle . . . ) If there is any such problem, I'd imagine that using a relay, so that the drain comes straight off the battery, would mitigate it, since car batteries act as pretty good voltage regulators on their own. Which I failed to mention is the way I did it in the past and was considering doing it on the installation under consideration. Since neither of us went into any details at the time, it occurs to me now that the gentleman from the church may have been thinking of a case or case he had seen where someone had attempted to wire the auxiliary lights directly to the headlights, and so increased the draw on that circuit by 15-20A or so and thereby caused problems . . . Never heard of such a problem, though. As I said, he didn't go into any specifics. I just recalled the comment from someone who had proved to me on other occasions that he did know something about cars (more than I did, anyway, at least on certain aspects), so I thought I'd research the issue before doing something stupid. I couldn't find anything about it searching on-line (but then most of the hits I got were ads for places trying to sell such lights), so I thought I'd throw the question out to see if anyone else had ever heard of such a thing. You Put Gas In The Tank And Turn The Key: What Else Do You Need To Know About Cars Maru --Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such
On 11 Feb 2005, at 11:33 pm, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: You Put Gas In The Tank And Turn The Key: What Else Do You Need To Know About Cars Maru How to turn the alarm off when you set it off accidentally? -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without bricks tied to its head. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such
Well, sort of, but not the type we are using here: I am thinking of adding driving/fog lamps to a 1995 vehicle which did not originally have them. Someone (a man at church who sold cars part-time) told me a long time ago that doing something like that which adds a significant extra electrical load to the system can cause problems on cars built within the past 20 years or so which have a computer as part of the electrical/ignition system. Does anyone know if that is true, or is it safe to add them? Obviously it will do no good to mess something up and render the vehicle inoperable. (FWIW, I have experience installing such lights on an older (pre-computer-as-an-essential-part-of-the-system) vehicle . . . ) --Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l