Re: Nothing to do?

2007-12-13 Thread Julia Thompson


On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:

 http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/nerd_sniping.png
 http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/nerd_sniping.png

And then there are those of us who would be sniped.  :)

Julia

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Re: Nothing to do?

2007-12-13 Thread Jim Sharkey

Julia Thompson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
 http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/nerd_sniping.png
And then there are those of us who would be sniped.  :)

I could see myself falling victim to that as well.  Though maybe not 
for a physics problem.  That one would likely just get a blank 
stare.  :-p

Jim

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Nothing to do?

2007-12-12 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/nerd_sniping.png
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/nerd_sniping.png



-- Ronn!  :)



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Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such

2005-02-12 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:08 PM Friday 2/11/2005, William T Goodall wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005, at 11:33 pm, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

You Put Gas In The Tank And Turn The Key: What Else Do You Need To Know 
About Cars Maru
How to turn the alarm off when you set it off accidentally?

Apparently that's _not_ what the other button on the remote on the key ring 
is for . . .

AFAICT It's A NOOP Maru
--Ronn! :)
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Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such

2005-02-12 Thread Julia Thompson


On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

 At 08:08 PM Friday 2/11/2005, William T Goodall wrote:
 
 On 11 Feb 2005, at 11:33 pm, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
 
 
 You Put Gas In The Tank And Turn The Key: What Else Do You Need To Know 
 About Cars Maru
 
 How to turn the alarm off when you set it off accidentally?
 
 
 Apparently that's _not_ what the other button on the remote on the key ring 
 is for . . .
 
 
 AFAICT It's A NOOP Maru

NOOP?

I know what MOOP is, but NOOP?

Julia

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Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such

2005-02-12 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 12, 2005, at 8:52 AM, Julia Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 08:08 PM Friday 2/11/2005, William T Goodall wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005, at 11:33 pm, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

You Put Gas In The Tank And Turn The Key: What Else Do You Need To 
Know
About Cars Maru
How to turn the alarm off when you set it off accidentally?

Apparently that's _not_ what the other button on the remote on the 
key ring
is for . . .

AFAICT It's A NOOP Maru
NOOP?
I know what MOOP is, but NOOP?
NOOP = no operation -- it's a term from programming, in particular,
from assembly language programming.
Through its use, Ronn! reveals himself as an old fart. Through my reply,
I do, too.
Dave
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Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such

2005-02-12 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:52 AM Saturday 2/12/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
 At 08:08 PM Friday 2/11/2005, William T Goodall wrote:

 On 11 Feb 2005, at 11:33 pm, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
 
 
 You Put Gas In The Tank And Turn The Key: What Else Do You Need To Know
 About Cars Maru
 
 How to turn the alarm off when you set it off accidentally?


 Apparently that's _not_ what the other button on the remote on the key 
ring
 is for . . .


 AFAICT It's A NOOP Maru

NOOP?
I know what MOOP is, but NOOP?

Also written no-op, or sometimes the mnemonic is NOP
(and the subject line no longer applies)
In Other Words Think Computers Maru (Assembly Language Class)
--Ronn! :)
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Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such

2005-02-12 Thread Matthew and Julie Bos
On 2/11/05 9:47 AM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If there is any such problem, I'd imagine that using a relay, so that the
 drain comes straight off
 the battery, would mitigate it, since car batteries act as pretty good voltage
 regulators on their own.
 
 Never heard of such a problem, though.

I agree with Nick on this, mostly because auto computers are pretty well
isolated from lighting circuits and other high amperage automotive systems.

Since I come from the Tim Allen school of automotive lighting  (I am a fan
of rally racing and lots of big driving lights), I suggest the following
website for all your automotive lighting needs...

http://www.rallylights.com

They even have a diagram of the basic wiring diagram.   And if you need it
you can purchase a wiring kit from them.  The diagram is at:

http://www.rallylights.com/useful_info/auxiliary_lamp_wiring.htm

If you need more answers, now you know who to call!

Matthew Bos

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Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such

2005-02-12 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:20 AM Saturday 2/12/2005, Dave Land wrote:
On Feb 12, 2005, at 8:52 AM, Julia Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 08:08 PM Friday 2/11/2005, William T Goodall wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005, at 11:33 pm, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

You Put Gas In The Tank And Turn The Key: What Else Do You Need To Know
About Cars Maru
How to turn the alarm off when you set it off accidentally?

Apparently that's _not_ what the other button on the remote on the key ring
is for . . .
AFAICT It's A NOOP Maru
NOOP?
I know what MOOP is, but NOOP?
NOOP = no operation -- it's a term from programming, in particular,
from assembly language programming.
Through its use, Ronn! reveals himself as an old fart. Through my reply,
I do, too.

Yes, I have indeed farted around in assembly language . . .
--Ronn! :)
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Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such

2005-02-12 Thread William T Goodall
On 12 Feb 2005, at 9:01 am, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 08:08 PM Friday 2/11/2005, William T Goodall wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005, at 11:33 pm, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

You Put Gas In The Tank And Turn The Key: What Else Do You Need To 
Know About Cars Maru
How to turn the alarm off when you set it off accidentally?

Apparently that's _not_ what the other button on the remote on the key 
ring is for . . .
You have another button? Mrs Wife got a newer car for Xmas and there is 
one button on the remote. After eventually getting around to reading 
the manual (none for the stereo though) it turns out that pressing and 
*holding* it flashes a light to tell you if the batteries in the remote 
are getting flat. Also remotely shuts the windows and sun-roof to the 
severe detriment of anyone with bits poking out...

Opaque UI for sure.
Maybe the second button shuts the windows or something?
--
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will _not_ result in the greatest work of all time. Just look at 
Windows.

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Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such

2005-02-11 Thread Nick Arnett
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Well, sort of, but not the type we are using here:
I am thinking of adding driving/fog lamps to a 1995 vehicle which did 
not originally have them.  Someone (a man at church who sold cars 
part-time) told me a long time ago that doing something like that which 
adds a significant extra electrical load to the system can cause 
problems on cars built within the past 20 years or so which have a 
computer as part of the electrical/ignition system.  Does anyone know if 
that is true, or is it safe to add them?  Obviously it will do no good 
to mess something up and render the vehicle inoperable.

(FWIW, I have experience installing such lights on an older 
(pre-computer-as-an-essential-part-of-the-system) vehicle . . . )
If there is any such problem, I'd imagine that using a relay, so that the drain comes straight off 
the battery, would mitigate it, since car batteries act as pretty good voltage regulators on their own.

Never heard of such a problem, though.
Nick
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Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such

2005-02-11 Thread Nick Lidster

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Well, sort of, but not the type we are using here:
I am thinking of adding driving/fog lamps to a 1995 vehicle which did not 
originally have them.  Someone (a man at church who sold cars part-time) 
told me a long time ago that doing something like that which adds a 
significant extra electrical load to the system can cause problems on 
cars built within the past 20 years or so which have a computer as part 
of the electrical/ignition system.  Does anyone know if that is true, or 
is it safe to add them?  Obviously it will do no good to mess something 
up and render the vehicle inoperable.

(FWIW, I have experience installing such lights on an older 
(pre-computer-as-an-essential-part-of-the-system) vehicle . . . )
If there is any such problem, I'd imagine that using a relay, so that the 
drain comes straight off the battery, would mitigate it, since car 
batteries act as pretty good voltage regulators on their own.

Never heard of such a problem, though.
Nick
good call Nick, that is actualy the process that you would go through. the 
only time that you would not have to worry about it is if the car had the 
option for Fog Lamps. then in that case their would be no need for a relay, 
as the computer and electrical system has already been setup ofr the 
hardware. for example, '93 Grand Cherokee's, have the option for fog lamps. 
Through the dealer you can purchase a new dash mounted switch, that would 
replace the existing one for the head lamps. The New switch has the option 
for the fog lamps already built in, no need for extra wiring needed to be 
ran back to the dash. just plug in the module to the switch, and run a new 
module from the wiring harness to the lamps. However for cost, it is much 
cheaper to run a new switch and relay.

Nick good call Nck Lidster 

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Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such

2005-02-11 Thread Deborah Harrell
 Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snippage
 I am thinking of adding driving/fog lamps to a 1995
 vehicle which did not originally have them...  

Oof, my first visual was those banked-over-the-cab
lights one sees on pick-ups, and I thought Ronn!'s
not a jacklighting bubba

Then my frontal cortex caught up with my occipital,
and Reason prevailed.   ;-D

Debbi
Corpus Callosum Redux Maru ;)

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Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such

2005-02-11 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:47 AM Friday 2/11/2005, Nick Arnett wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Well, sort of, but not the type we are using here:
I am thinking of adding driving/fog lamps to a 1995 vehicle which did not 
originally have them.  Someone (a man at church who sold cars part-time) 
told me a long time ago that doing something like that which adds a 
significant extra electrical load to the system can cause problems on 
cars built within the past 20 years or so which have a computer as part 
of the electrical/ignition system.  Does anyone know if that is true, or 
is it safe to add them?  Obviously it will do no good to mess something 
up and render the vehicle inoperable.
(FWIW, I have experience installing such lights on an older 
(pre-computer-as-an-essential-part-of-the-system) vehicle . . . )
If there is any such problem, I'd imagine that using a relay, so that the 
drain comes straight off the battery, would mitigate it, since car 
batteries act as pretty good voltage regulators on their own.

Which I failed to mention is the way I did it in the past and was 
considering doing it on the installation under consideration.  Since 
neither of us went into any details at the time, it occurs to me now that 
the gentleman from the church may have been thinking of a case or case he 
had seen where someone had attempted to wire the auxiliary lights directly 
to the headlights, and so increased the draw on that circuit by 15-20A or 
so and thereby caused problems . . .


Never heard of such a problem, though.

As I said, he didn't go into any specifics.  I just recalled the comment 
from someone who had proved to me on other occasions that he did know 
something about cars (more than I did, anyway, at least on certain 
aspects), so I thought I'd research the issue before doing something 
stupid.  I couldn't find anything about it searching on-line (but then most 
of the hits I got were ads for places trying to sell such lights), so I 
thought I'd throw the question out to see if anyone else had ever heard of 
such a thing.

You Put Gas In The Tank And Turn The Key: What Else Do You Need To Know 
About Cars Maru

--Ronn! :)
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Re: Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such

2005-02-11 Thread William T Goodall
On 11 Feb 2005, at 11:33 pm, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

You Put Gas In The Tank And Turn The Key: What Else Do You Need To 
Know About Cars Maru
How to turn the alarm off when you set it off accidentally?
--
William T Goodall
Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web  : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk
Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/
A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without 
bricks tied to its head.

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Irregulars question: Nothing to do with computers as such

2005-02-10 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
Well, sort of, but not the type we are using here:
I am thinking of adding driving/fog lamps to a 1995 vehicle which did not 
originally have them.  Someone (a man at church who sold cars part-time) 
told me a long time ago that doing something like that which adds a 
significant extra electrical load to the system can cause problems on cars 
built within the past 20 years or so which have a computer as part of the 
electrical/ignition system.  Does anyone know if that is true, or is it 
safe to add them?  Obviously it will do no good to mess something up and 
render the vehicle inoperable.

(FWIW, I have experience installing such lights on an older 
(pre-computer-as-an-essential-part-of-the-system) vehicle . . . )


--Ronn! :)
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