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From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: Technique
Let's go over them again, starting with torture which, besides being
against numerous state, local and federal laws
Al Gore says it better than I ever could. Please take the time to read
this rather lengthy speach.
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Text_of_Gore_speech_0116.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/8hxjv
There have of course been other periods in American history when the
Executive Branch claimed new
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From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: Technique
Dan Minette wrote:
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From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs
At 09:32 AM Wednesday 1/18/2006, Dan Minette wrote:
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From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: Technique
Dan Minette wrote:
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From
On 1/17/06, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The alternative to the Constitution being supreme would have to be some
kind of coup. From what I've seen and heard, the officer corp of the US
is
dedicated to the Constitution. Colen Powell is probably one of the best
heads of the Joint
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From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: Technique
Are you saying that as long as they stop short of overthrowing the
government by force, then they're respecting
Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Robert Seeberger
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dan Minette wrote:
Bush is arguing for a strong executive
interpretation of the
Constitution. But, when the Supreme Court rules
against him, as it did today,
The Oregon assisted suicide decision? I've
Dan wrote:
Indeed, even if/when they rule against Bush on some of his
interpretations of executive authority under the Constitution, the whole
process is
inherently constitutional. Checks and balances doesn't mean that one
branch acts with constraintÂ…but that the other branches of government
Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I don't think the people on this list are all that
misled (as compared
to the population in general). IMO it is single
issue politics that
has gotten us in the situation we are in, and it
plays on both sides.
This follow the leader game is
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From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: Technique
Is there any evidence that politicos sub-universally have the kind of
respect for the Constitution that you
Dan Minette
Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2006 1:03 PM
snip
Given that, it's unlikely for a politician to say the
Constitution is just a piece of paper. It's much more
likely that they would say that's not what it means even if
it is clear to everyone else that's what it means.
Dan Minette wrote:
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From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: Technique
Bush is arguing for a strong executive interpretation of the
Constitution. But, when
At 08:44 PM Tuesday 1/17/2006, Robert Seeberger wrote:
I've been ill today and have not
watched or read news today.
Similarly here.
xponent
Recurring Infection Maru
How long for you? Mine was 24 years at Thanksgiving.
Getting Rather Sick And Tired Of Being Sick And Tired Maru
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 08:44 PM Tuesday 1/17/2006, Robert Seeberger wrote:
I've been ill today and have not
watched or read news today.
Similarly here.
xponent
Recurring Infection Maru
How long for you? Mine was 24 years at Thanksgiving.
Two weeks at the most. 10 days of one
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From: Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:17 PM
Subject: RE: Technique
Given that, it's unlikely for a politician to say the
Constitution is just a piece of paper. It's much more
likely
From: Dan Minette
Given that, it's unlikely for a politician to say the
Constitution is just a piece of paper. It's much more
likely that they would say that's not what it means even if
it is clear to everyone else that's what it means.
Dan, I find your optimism and faith
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From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: Technique
William T Goodall wrote:
On 14 Jan 2006, at 3:01 am, Robert Seeberger wrote:
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Maru wrote:
On 1/13/06, Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
I think you can make a good argument that the terrorists have won
~something~.
They have caused us to volunteer to give up some freedom and
convenience. If *I* have to be searched to travel from Houston to
Memphis or
Doug wrote:
What is it that I've filtered out, Dan? You wrote a huge post that would
take me an hour or more to research and reply to, but you haven't
mentioned _one thing_ that would lead anyone to believe that it is
uncharacteristic of the president to utter the words its just a goddanmed
piece
On 14 Jan 2006, at 3:01 am, Robert Seeberger wrote:
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From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Technique
I was going to make one more point here. From what I read here
William T Goodall wrote:
On 14 Jan 2006, at 3:01 am, Robert Seeberger wrote:
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From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Technique
I was going to make one more point
Dan wrote:
My personal argument is that his administration does not represent a
virtually unparallel attack on our Constitutional liberties. Rather,
like other presidents before him, he has over-reacted and overstated the
Constitutional authority of the executive. I differ with him on a
Doug Pensinger wrote:
Dan wrote:
My personal argument is that his administration does not represent
a
virtually unparallel attack on our Constitutional liberties.
Rather,
like other presidents before him, he has over-reacted and
overstated
the Constitutional authority of the executive.
Robert wrote:
Is there any evidence that politicos sub-universally have the kind of
respect for the Constitution that you are implying?
For all we know they all wipe their asses with it, step on it, and
flush it down the toilet while laughing maniacally. (Re: Abuses of the
Koran at Gitmo)
I
Doug Pensinger wrote:
Robert wrote:
Is there any evidence that politicos sub-universally have the kind
of
respect for the Constitution that you are implying?
For all we know they all wipe their asses with it, step on it, and
flush it down the toilet while laughing maniacally. (Re: Abuses
On 1/13/06, Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
I think you can make a good argument that the terrorists have won
~something~.
They have caused us to volunteer to give up some freedom and
convenience. If *I* have to be searched to travel from Houston to
Memphis or Atlanta, then we
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From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: Technique
Dan wrote:
If you accept what he writes as fact about Bush, would you also accept
accusations about Clinton
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From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: Technique
I think that, in order to make a good comparison, one would have to make
a
reasonable assessment of the internal risks
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From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: Technique
My personal argument is that his administration does not represent a
virtually unparallel attack on our Constitutional
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From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Technique
- Original Message -
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
- Original Message -
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Technique
I was going to make one more point here. From what I read here,
there
seems to be a viewpoint that the risk posed
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From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: Technique
Both the Times and the Post spouted Bush propaganda prior
to the invasion and buried contradictory stories
Dan wrote:
If you accept what he writes as fact about Bush, would you also accept
accusations about Clinton as fact?
It depends on weather or not what he writes is consistent with what we
already know about the person. Thus if he were to write that Bush said
something to the effect that
Dan Wrote:
After thinking about it overnight, I arrived at the conclusion that we
have fundamentally different understandings of technique. Let me give an
example. You quoted a website that stated that Bush called the
Constitution just a piece of paper. The website owner stated that he
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