Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-26 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 12:17 AM 11/26/02 -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote: Well, if you define theocracy to include the above, then you simply have created the new problem of defining the word that distinguishes the viewpoint of desiring an immediate and earthly theocracy from an

RE: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Ritu Ko
William T Goodall wrote: What of people who hold pacifist religous views? Using Osama bin Laden to make a statement about the general characteristics of religion is beyond ludicrous. Is it? Quakers and other pacifist religions are a tiny minority. The 'general characteristics' of

RE: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Ritu Ko
Ronald Blankenship wrote: Define theocracy. Frex, Christians believe that at some point in the future, Jesus Christ will return to Earth as its ruler. g In which case, wouldn't the belief that the entire Creation is God's doing and, thus, under Her ultimate control be defined as a

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
- Original Message - From: Ritu Ko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:27 AM Subject: RE: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated Ritu wrote: Ronald Blankenship wrote: Define theocracy. Frex, Christians believe that at

RE: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Ritu Ko
Ronn Blankenship wrote: (I won't quibble with you over the gender of deity at this point. ;-) ) Nothing to quibble about there, sir. It's a simple fact. ;) Btw, I meant to ask, what was the colour of the other half of that cat of yours? Ritu GCU Hanumani-Sindoori?there goes a

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
- Original Message - From: Ritu Ko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 5:04 AM Subject: RE: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated Ritu asked: Ronn Blankenship wrote: (I won't quibble with you over the gender of deity at this

RE: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Ritu Ko
Ronn Blankenship wrote: Btw, I meant to ask, what was the colour of the other half of that cat of yours? Other half? Not sure what you mean: Of course you don't. My bad. :) Your earlier mail had mentioned a half-kali dog. I somehow remembered a cat.. :) Ritu GCU Oops!

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
- Original Message - From: Ritu Ko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 5:51 AM Subject: RE: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated Ronn Blankenship wrote: Btw, I meant to ask, what was the colour of the other half of that cat

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Reggie Bautista
Ronn wrote: Define theocracy. Frex, Christians believe that at some point in the future, Jesus Christ will return to Earth as its ruler. That should be some Christians There are a lot of different ways to interpret the New Testament... Reggie Bautista

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread The Fool
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:57 PM 11/24/2002 -0600 The Fool wrote: As long as there are people who believe these kinds of things, whether they are christians, jews, islamists, hindus or whatever, (and I know plenty of people with this kind of worldview personally), the

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Richard Baker
The Fool said: And just how many unholy wars did the Popes reside over during the dark ages Mr. Catholic? Not an awful lot, I would've thought. It seems to me that the main inter-religious wars during the Dark Ages in Europe were between Merovingian France and the Muslim armies in Spain and

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread The Fool
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:10 AM 11/25/2002 + William T Goodall wrote: Is it? Quakers and other pacifist religions are a tiny minority. The 'general characteristics' of religion could be described with the pacifists as a footnote.[1] [1] Just rebutting your 'beyond

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Julia Thompson
The Fool wrote: From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:10 AM 11/25/2002 + William T Goodall wrote: Is it? Quakers and other pacifist religions are a tiny minority. The 'general characteristics' of religion could be described with the pacifists as a footnote.[1] [1]

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/25/2002 12:47:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Fool said: And just how many unholy wars did the Popes reside over during the dark ages Mr. Catholic? replying: Not an awful lot I'd rather move up a few centuries. Even Tilly tried

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Richard Baker
Julia said: What percentage of muslims advocate theocracy? None of the ones I've run into (admittedly, a very small sample) were interested in such. I suppose that now's a bad time to launch my bid to become God-Emperor of the Known Universe, right? Rich GSV There's Always Next Year

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Julia Thompson
Richard Baker wrote: Julia said: What percentage of muslims advocate theocracy? None of the ones I've run into (admittedly, a very small sample) were interested in such. I suppose that now's a bad time to launch my bid to become God-Emperor of the Known Universe, right? :D

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Richard Baker
Julia said: p.s. How large is the Known Universe? A few tens of billions of light years across. It depends on a rather flimsy ladder of distance measurements so I'm not sure exactly how big. And how can you govern as God-Emperor without FTL communications? I was planning to wave my arms in

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/25/2002 1:33:06 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was planning to wave my arms in the general direction of the night sky and say I claim these worlds in the name of myself, Richard the First and Last, God-Emperor of the Known Universe. Pick

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread The Fool
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool wrote: From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:10 AM 11/25/2002 + William T Goodall wrote: Is it? Quakers and other pacifist religions are a tiny minority. The 'general characteristics' of religion could be described

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Richard Baker
The Fool said: The renasiance didn't happen until after the crusades, in which the crusaders brought back with them a great deal of knowledge from the greek and roman times. I wasn't talking about the Italian renaissance though, but the time before and during the Crusades. There wouldn't have

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:44 PM Subject: Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool said: And just how many unholy wars did the Popes

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/25/2002 6:50:53 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which, FWIW, was preserved by Muslim Arabs when Christians burned the Library at Alexandria because its books were written by pagan Greeks. ? Was there more than one burning? I thought it

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:57 PM 11/24/2002 -0600 Ronald Blankenship wrote: [1] Just rebutting your 'beyond ludicrous' without claiming that massacring the heathen/infidel/non-believer is the normal pattern of theocracies. But isn't correlating religion and theocracy something of a sterotype as well?I think

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 01:48 PM 11/25/2002 -0600 The Fool wrote: I think that only a small minority of the religious in the world today advocate theocracy. What percentage of the population is muslim? What percent are JW's? Well, how about all the Muslims that take the Koran literally when it says There can be

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 01:32 PM 11/25/2002 -0600 The Fool wrote: There are perhaps two major (and several tiny) christian sects [True Belivers] that hold pacifist views. The Amish. The Jehovah Witness's Well, the Catholic Church has nearly become pacificistic in recent centuries. Pacifism is also a not

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 02:49 PM 11/25/2002 -0600 The Fool wrote: What percentage of muslims advocate theocracy? None of the ones I've run into (admittedly, a very small sample) were interested in such. It's an islamic teaching. Wherever the evil of islam has gained a toehold, islamic shariah has sprung up and

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-25 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 12:17 AM 11/26/02 -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 08:57 PM 11/24/2002 -0600 Ronald Blankenship wrote: [1] Just rebutting your 'beyond ludicrous' without claiming that massacring the heathen/infidel/non-believer is the normal pattern of theocracies. But isn't correlating religion and

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-24 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 01:57 PM 11/24/2002 -0600 The Fool wrote: As long as there are people who believe these kinds of things, whether they are christians, jews, islamists, hindus or whatever, (and I know plenty of people with this kind of worldview personally), the human race is headed for extinction. It is only a

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-24 Thread William T Goodall
on 24/11/02 11:45 pm, John D. Giorgis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:57 PM 11/24/2002 -0600 The Fool wrote: As long as there are people who believe these kinds of things, whether they are christians, jews, islamists, hindus or whatever, (and I know plenty of people with this kind of

Re: stereotyping is evil, and why it must be eradicated

2002-11-24 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 01:10 AM 11/25/2002 + William T Goodall wrote: Is it? Quakers and other pacifist religions are a tiny minority. The 'general characteristics' of religion could be described with the pacifists as a footnote.[1] [1] Just rebutting your 'beyond ludicrous' without claiming that massacring the