Fwd: Another on-line test . . .
This is a story about a girl. While at the funeral of her own mother, she met a guy whom she did not know. She thought this guy was amazing, so much the dream guy that she was searching for that she fell in love with him immediately. However, she never asked for his name or number and afterward could not find anyone who knew who he was. A few days later the girl killed her own sister. Question: Why did she kill her sister? First, find your own answer to this question. Then, check out below for the answer. (separator space) | | v | | v | | v | | v | | v | | v | | v | | v | | v | | v Answer: She reasoned that if the guy appeared at her mother's funeral, then he might appear another family funeral. If you answered this correctly, you think like a psychopath. This was a test by a famous American psychologist used to test if one has the same mentality as a killer. Many arrested serial killers took part in this test and answered correctly. If you didn't answer the question correctly, good for you. If you got the answer correct, please let me know so I can take you out of my address book. . . . ronn! :) ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Fwd: Another on-line test . . .
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: This is a story about a girl. While at the funeral of her own mother, she met a guy whom she did not know. She thought this guy was amazing, so much the dream guy that she was searching for that she fell in love with him immediately. However, she never asked for his name or number and afterward could not find anyone who knew who he was. A few days later the girl killed her own sister. Question: Why did she kill her sister? ... Ronn-- So the answer involving incest and abortion is the normal one? Good to know... ---David Interesting test--Snopes thinks so too. : ) http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/sister.asp ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
NASA sets Ares I-X test launch date
NASA sets Ares I-X test launch date | Space News from The Huntsville Times - al.com - al.com - http://blog.al.com/space-news/2009/09/nasa_is_targeting_oct_27.html ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
and a test with no colons
From: David Brin db...@sbcglobal.net To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:05:08 AM Subject: Re: Looking for a story... Sorry folks. Must test three subject lines this time. With Re: With Brin: Without either. From: Andrew Crystall dawnfal...@upliftwar.com To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:30:53 AM Subject: Looking for a story... I'm looking for a story I read - I think it was a short story. It features a grunt's eye view of an attack on an alien position, with the attackers being aliens of the same species, but bred by Humans as part of their society. AndrewC ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Brin: Test for DB
This message, unlike the other one I just sent, should reach David. David, if you receive the other message, I'm wondering if you are subscribed under more than one address and one needs to be set to no mail. I don't see another one, but check the headers on the one that says it shouldn't reach you and let me know if it is a different address than the that starts with sbc. Nick ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
TwURLed News - Social Media starting beta test
I've been working on the first of some vertical versions of TwURLed News (formerly Tweetsnet), my site that uses social network analysis to find web pages being cited on Twitter. It is essentially a predictive analysis - it finds people who tended to be among the first to cite pages that became popular and watches to see what pages those people cite. The new vertical is focused on social media. You'll find it at http://TwURLedNews.com/social_media The next vertical I'm working on will be for... ta-da, web analytics. This really is beta at this point; I'm working on the code and algorithms for it, so don't expect anything like 100 percent reliability yet. Or 90 percent. But as the Zen koan goes, 80 percent is perfect. Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: geek test
At 08:04 AM Tuesday 5/27/2008, Charlie Bell wrote: On 27/05/2008, at 10:57 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Because I don't know wtf a firkin is to be able to do conversions, and it wouldn't have meant a damn thing to Dan, either. Beer barrel. The smaller type that you see up on the back of the bar with a tap and spile... :-) Is that about the same size as the one that comes out of the cyborg woman's belly? I Thought Most Guys' Idea Was To Get Beer Into The Woman's Belly Maru . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Another online test . . .
What Kind of Reader Are You? http://www.gotoquiz.com/what_kind_of_reader_are_you http://www.gotoquiz.com/what_kind_of_reader_are_you I'd Rather Be Reading Than Taking Another Dumb Online Test Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
In Russia, a test of God vs. Darwin
ST. PETERSBURG, Russia // This nation's first-ever lawsuit on Charles Darwin's theory of evolution began with a biology textbook, a bunch of bananas and a man dressed in a monkey suit. And it only got more tangled from there. The student who brought the case, saying the teaching of evolution offends her religion, has accused her school of trying to flunk her as punishment for speaking up. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/health/bal-te.darwin03jan03,0,6505374.story -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: In Russia, a test of God vs. Darwin
On 04/01/2007, at 2:23 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: ST. PETERSBURG, Russia // This nation's first-ever lawsuit on Charles Darwin's theory of evolution began with a biology textbook, a bunch of bananas and a man dressed in a monkey suit. And it only got more tangled from there. The student who brought the case, saying the teaching of evolution offends her religion, has accused her school of trying to flunk her as punishment for speaking up. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/health/bal- te.darwin03jan03,0,6505374.story Yay. Creationism, that insidious US (and Australian) export. US anti- science groups are involved in the background, just as they're backing Truth In Science and other wedge organisations. He, like the lawsuit, contends that Darwinism, while not a political ideology, stems from Marxist-Leninist ideology. Yes, if time is running in reverse... Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:30:23 -0500 Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I told her it was a book about Cu Chullain. She immediately became very quiet with a fearful look on her face and slowly inched away from me, as if I had told her I had the plague. (Yes Ku HullinG) It was quite comical at the time, and that particular Nun did not speak to me for months, and i never asked why either. G xponent Catholic Weirdness Even For A Former Altar Boy Maru rob ? Yep she sounds like one of the famous escapee's, or maybe she was a devout catholic and if you were reading your star sign for the day she would have done the same thing... Ohhh they did such a good job controlling the state up until the mid 1980's here BTW Condoms were only legalised in Ireland in the mid 80's hehehe then our birthrate went up... hmm there must be a good study in this for the sociologists out there -- ___ The pen is mightier than the sword! Edward Bulwer-Lytton (1803-73) Just look what happened in the US in 2000 Bush wins with the Pen of a Judge! Alex Gogan (1968- gulp!) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.0/103 - Release Date: 15/09/2005 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:01:08 -0500 Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And no I don't drink the black stuff I am a Smithwicks man myself and spirit of choice will Southern Comfort (reserve) ohh feel ill about the idea of Bud So do I, which makes the existence of 8 bottles of the stuff in my pantry absolutely horrifying. :P (Long story. Apparently, my children are related to someone who doesn't have decent taste in beer At least they have *me* modelling *good* beer purchasing.) Julia I apologise for the swear word in the following joke! At a world brewing convention in the States, the CEOs of various Brewing organizations retired to the bar at the end of each day's conference. Bruce, CEO of Fosters, shouted to the Barman: In 'Strylya, we make the best bladdy beer in the world, so pour me a Bladdy Fosters, mate. Bob, CEO of Budweiser, calls out next: In the States, we brew the finest beers of the world, and I make the King of them all, gimme a Bud. Hans steps up next: In Germany ve invented das beer, verdamt. Give me ein Becks, ya ist Der real King of beers, danke. Paddy, CEO of Guinness, steps forward: Barman, would ya give me a doyet coke wid ice and lemon. Tanks. The others stare at him in stunned silence, amazement written all over their faces. Eventually Bruce asks: Are you not going to have a Guinness, Pat? Paddy replies: Well, if you fookin' pansies aren't drinkin', then neither am I. -- ___ The pen is mightier than the sword! Edward Bulwer-Lytton (1803-73) Just look what happened in the US in 2000 Bush wins with the Pen of a Judge! Alex Gogan (1968- gulp!) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.0/103 - Release Date: 15/09/2005 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
Maybe I'm missing the pun in there but the joke doesn't work for me. Sidhe is pronounced Shee or sometimes I think Sheed as in Banshee. The Ban-Sidhe were one of the tribes of the Sidhe, warrior-magicians who were driven from the Isle by the Sons of Mil. Alex might know better than I, I learned all I know from the liner notes of Horslips albums.G(Not reallyG) xponent Hit Or Mythology Maru rob Ever here the expression more irish than the irish themselves :¬} But your right, and I would say a total of maybe 1% of the Irish would know this as well hehehehe the celtic tiger has scared all the old lore aware did a better job on this then Saint Patrick did with the snakes (we still have a few hundred left in our Parliment) -- ___ The pen is mightier than the sword! Edward Bulwer-Lytton (1803-73) Just look what happened in the US in 2000 Bush wins with the Pen of a Judge! Alex Gogan (1968- gulp!) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.25/102 - Release Date: 14/09/2005 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:36:53 -0500 Mauro Diotallevi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/13/05, Alex Gogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the land still holds close to the mythology, there are leprechauns in every road side in the country, the banshee visits the house of the dying, we have donkey bringing us to work every day as I sit on a bed of straw.. Then I wake up grab a coffee in starbucks, my mcmuffin for breakfast and then have a quick whopper meal (damn there is no wendys or taco bell we have no culture :¬} ). Then after a hard days work I go for a pint of bud and watch re runs of friends God I love Ireland :¬} EEeew. You drink Bud? If Chaucer's Mead is the nectar of the gods, Bud would be what comes out the other end. Ok, back to lurking for me. Mauro ___ Bud would be the very last drink that would pass my lips (was been sarcastic) if it was the last alcoholic drink on earth I would rather .. .. .. can't think of anything that comes close to this vile drink so would rather go without :¬} And no I don't drink the black stuff I am a Smithwicks man myself and spirit of choice will Southern Comfort (reserve) ohh feel ill about the idea of Bud -- ___ The pen is mightier than the sword! Edward Bulwer-Lytton (1803-73) Just look what happened in the US in 2000 Bush wins with the Pen of a Judge! Alex Gogan (1968- gulp!) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.25/102 - Release Date: 14/09/2005 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
Alex Gogan wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:36:53 -0500 Mauro Diotallevi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/13/05, Alex Gogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the land still holds close to the mythology, there are leprechauns in every road side in the country, the banshee visits the house of the dying, we have donkey bringing us to work every day as I sit on a bed of straw.. Then I wake up grab a coffee in starbucks, my mcmuffin for breakfast and then have a quick whopper meal (damn there is no wendys or taco bell we have no culture :¬} ). Then after a hard days work I go for a pint of bud and watch re runs of friends God I love Ireland :¬} EEeew. You drink Bud? If Chaucer's Mead is the nectar of the gods, Bud would be what comes out the other end. Ok, back to lurking for me. Mauro ___ Bud would be the very last drink that would pass my lips (was been sarcastic) if it was the last alcoholic drink on earth I would rather .. .. .. can't think of anything that comes close to this vile drink so would rather go without :¬} And no I don't drink the black stuff I am a Smithwicks man myself and spirit of choice will Southern Comfort (reserve) ohh feel ill about the idea of Bud So do I, which makes the existence of 8 bottles of the stuff in my pantry absolutely horrifying. :P (Long story. Apparently, my children are related to someone who doesn't have decent taste in beer At least they have *me* modelling *good* beer purchasing.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
Alex Gogan wrote: Maybe I'm missing the pun in there but the joke doesn't work for me. Sidhe is pronounced Shee or sometimes I think Sheed as in Banshee. The Ban-Sidhe were one of the tribes of the Sidhe, warrior-magicians who were driven from the Isle by the Sons of Mil. Alex might know better than I, I learned all I know from the liner notes of Horslips albums.G(Not reallyG) xponent Hit Or Mythology Maru rob Ever here the expression more irish than the irish themselves :¬} But your right, and I would say a total of maybe 1% of the Irish would know this as well hehehehe the celtic tiger has scared all the old lore aware did a better job on this then Saint Patrick did with the snakes (we still have a few hundred left in our Parliment) Funny story: The hospital I work at was run by Nuns, most of whom are Irish. One morning while standing in line in ther cafeteria one of the Sisters asked me what I was reading. I told her it was a book about Cu Chullain. She immediately became very quiet with a fearful look on her face and slowly inched away from me, as if I had told her I had the plague. (Yes Ku HullinG) It was quite comical at the time, and that particular Nun did not speak to me for months, and i never asked why either. G xponent Catholic Weirdness Even For A Former Altar Boy Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:08:02 -0500 Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Gogan wrote: Hi rob, but what is the scarier thing, the fact that it would not surprise me if it is true? (Oh and I knew it was a joke but was trying to be sarcastic) _} I am Irish (and no it doesn't explain anything :_} ) I hope to visit Ireland someday. I want to walk the paths of the Tain and see the places where Cu Chullain fought. Where Balor opened his one evil eye. I want to look out the corner of my eye to see if I can spot a Sidhe. Well..really I'd like to see how the land corresponds to the mythology.G Well the land still holds close to the mythology, there are leprechauns in every road side in the country, the banshee visits the house of the dying, we have donkey bringing us to work every day as I sit on a bed of straw.. Then I wake up grab a coffee in starbucks, my mcmuffin for breakfast and then have a quick whopper meal (damn there is no wendys or taco bell we have no culture :¬} ). Then after a hard days work I go for a pint of bud and watch re runs of friends God I love Ireland :¬} and I read news reports that in the bible belt they want to teach creationist theory in the schools and then in LA a few years back they wanted to put an embargo on barbeque's, now I know that they can be a major contributor to the damage to the environment and cause so much more than the SUV's (been sarcastic). That political correctness was actually started as a joke in the New York times and was taken seriously and is now almost the bible on how americans live their lives. When in America (which is a country I love to visit, and I think that you have a wonderful country with great people - bar republican voters) now has become so polarised and brain washed that now nothing surprises me anymore. Barbara Bush's last comment (akin to let them eat cake) would have gone around as a joke but its now true. Yes...the inmates have taken over the asylum.G But that means you live in asylum... hehehehe half the world want to be living with you and the other half are too crazy to notice they are crazy... god this is too confusing its like living in a cartoon DOH! So what is worse: The fact that it would not surprise me that this could be true? or I am kind of disappointed that it is a joke cause it would be damn funny to see some of the responses :_} The first is worst. Your disappointment affects fewer people I think than your surprise. true but it would be still cool to see the responses, then we can have the same form over here.. bugger forgot we did its the ballot paper in our elections :¬} -- ___ The pen is mightier than the sword! Edward Bulwer-Lytton (1803-73) Just look what happened in the US in 2000 Bush wins with the Pen of a Judge! Alex Gogan (1968- gulp!) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.23/99 - Release Date: 12/09/2005 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
On 9/13/05, Alex Gogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the land still holds close to the mythology, there are leprechauns in every road side in the country, the banshee visits the house of the dying, we have donkey bringing us to work every day as I sit on a bed of straw.. Then I wake up grab a coffee in starbucks, my mcmuffin for breakfast and then have a quick whopper meal (damn there is no wendys or taco bell we have no culture :¬} ). Then after a hard days work I go for a pint of bud and watch re runs of friends God I love Ireland :¬} EEeew. You drink Bud? If Chaucer's Mead is the nectar of the gods, Bud would be what comes out the other end. Ok, back to lurking for me. Mauro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 02:08 PM Monday 9/12/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote: Alex Gogan wrote: Hi rob, but what is the scarier thing, the fact that it would not surprise me if it is true? (Oh and I knew it was a joke but was trying to be sarcastic) ¬} I am Irish (and no it doesn't explain anything :¬} ) I hope to visit Ireland someday. I want to walk the paths of the Tain and see the places where Cu Chullain fought. Where Balor opened his one evil eye. I want to look out the corner of my eye to see if I can spot a Sidhe. I heard that they all moved to California, where half of them became Hidhe, and the other half got breast implants . . . Maybe I'm missing the pun in there but the joke doesn't work for me. Sidhe is pronounced Shee or sometimes I think Sheed as in Banshee. The Ban-Sidhe were one of the tribes of the Sidhe, warrior-magicians who were driven from the Isle by the Sons of Mil. Alex might know better than I, I learned all I know from the liner notes of Horslips albums.G(Not reallyG) xponent Hit Or Mythology Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
At 05:24 PM Tuesday 9/13/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 02:08 PM Monday 9/12/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote: Alex Gogan wrote: Hi rob, but what is the scarier thing, the fact that it would not surprise me if it is true? (Oh and I knew it was a joke but was trying to be sarcastic) ¬} I am Irish (and no it doesn't explain anything :¬} ) I hope to visit Ireland someday. I want to walk the paths of the Tain and see the places where Cu Chullain fought. Where Balor opened his one evil eye. I want to look out the corner of my eye to see if I can spot a Sidhe. I heard that they all moved to California, where half of them became Hidhe, and the other half got breast implants . . . Maybe I'm missing the pun in there but the joke doesn't work for me. Sidhe is pronounced Shee Correct. So by analogy, Hidhe would be pronounced . . . ? And those words sound quite a bit like which English pronouns? And the entries under Sex on the form which started this thread were . . . ? Some People Are Very Fortunate In That They Get To Laugh Three Times¹ At A Joke Maru -- Ronn! :) (¹The first time when they hear it. The second time when someone explains it to them. The third time when they finally get it. A maxim I often have to use when making a joke.) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 05:24 PM Tuesday 9/13/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 02:08 PM Monday 9/12/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote: Alex Gogan wrote: Hi rob, but what is the scarier thing, the fact that it would not surprise me if it is true? (Oh and I knew it was a joke but was trying to be sarcastic) ¬} I am Irish (and no it doesn't explain anything :¬} ) I hope to visit Ireland someday. I want to walk the paths of the Tain and see the places where Cu Chullain fought. Where Balor opened his one evil eye. I want to look out the corner of my eye to see if I can spot a Sidhe. I heard that they all moved to California, where half of them became Hidhe, and the other half got breast implants . . . Maybe I'm missing the pun in there but the joke doesn't work for me. Sidhe is pronounced Shee Correct. So by analogy, Hidhe would be pronounced . . . ? And those words sound quite a bit like which English pronouns? And the entries under Sex on the form which started this thread were . . . ? LOL..and I figured no way!! G Some People Are Very Fortunate In That They Get To Laugh Three Times¹ At A Joke Maru xponent Thought About It Too Much Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test [correction]
At 10:45 PM Tuesday 9/13/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 05:24 PM Tuesday 9/13/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 02:08 PM Monday 9/12/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote: Alex Gogan wrote: Hi rob, but what is the scarier thing, the fact that it would not surprise me if it is true? (Oh and I knew it was a joke but was trying to be sarcastic) ¬} I am Irish (and no it doesn't explain anything :¬} ) I hope to visit Ireland someday. I want to walk the paths of the Tain and see the places where Cu Chullain fought. Where Balor opened his one evil eye. I want to look out the corner of my eye to see if I can spot a Sidhe. I heard that they all moved to California, where half of them became Hidhe, and the other half got breast implants . . . Maybe I'm missing the pun in there but the joke doesn't work for me. Sidhe is pronounced Shee Correct. So by analogy, Hidhe would be pronounced . . . ? And those words sound quite a bit like which English pronouns? And the entries under Sex on the form which started this thread were . . . ? LOL..and I figured no way!! G Some People Are Very Fortunate In That They Get To Laugh Three Times¹ At A Joke Maru xponent Thought About It Too Much Maru Then perhaps you really should not think too much about the fact that at least one other list member got it without any explanation . . . or that another list member came up with it immediately upon reading that line in Alex's message . . . Oops, sorry: I meant your response to Alex. As you might have surmised, I didn't go back and look up the original messages, but just looked at the quoted parts above and misread who wrote what. Well, anyone whose thinking is warped enough to come up with such a response to a rather straightforward reference to Irish mythology -- which is what I meant by the above comment: that you might not want to think too much about how warped the thinking processes of some of the people you associate with here must be -- can hardly be expected to be able to follow the indentation straight down the page . . . Really Warped Would Be Forwarding The Above Word Play To Laurell K. Hamilton In Case She Could Find A Way To Work It Into Her Princess Meredith Series Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
California Driving Test
For those of you who are not fortunate enough to live in California, here is a copy of the California Driver's Exam, and for those of you who do, study real hard. This is a new Exam. Since driving conditions (and culture) are unique in California, you may not have realized that the California Department of Motor Vehicles has now issued a special Application and driver's test solely for the California area. 2005 CALIFORNIA DRIVER'S LICENSE APPLICATION Name: ___ Stage Name:__ Agent: ___ Attorney: Therapist's Name: _ Sex: [ ] Male [ ] Female* [ ] Formerly Male [ ] Formerly Female [ ] Both *If female, indicate breast implant size: ___ Will the size of your implants hinder your ability to safely operate a motor vehicle in any way? [ ] Yes [ ] No Please list brand of cell phone: . If you don't own a cell phone, please explain why you don't: ___ (Use extra pages, if necessary) Please check hair color:Females: [ ] Blonde [ ] Platinum Blonde Teenagers: [ ] Red [ ] Orange [ ] Green [ ] Purple [ ] Blue [ ] Skinhead [ ] Other ___ Please check activities you perform while driving: (Check all that apply) [ ] Eating [ ] Drinking Starbucks coffee [ ] Applying make-up [ ] Shaving (male or female) [X] Talking on the phone (already checked for your convenience) [ ] Lifting weights [ ] Slapping kids in the back-seat [ ] Applying cellulite treatment to thighs [ ] Tanning [ ] Snorting cocaine [ ] Watching TV [ ] Reading Variety [ ] Surfing the net via laptop [ ] Discharging firearms / reloading Please indicate how many times, while driving, you expect to: [ ] a) Shoot at other drivers ___ [ ] b) Be shot at ___ If you are the victim of a carjacking, you should immediately: [ ] a) Call the police to report the crime. [ ] b) Call Channel 9 News to report the crime, then watch your car on the news in a high- speed chase. [ ] c) Call your attorney and discuss lawsuit against cellular phone company for your 911 call not going through. [ ] d) Call your therapist. In the event of an earthquake, you should: [ ] a) Stop your car. [ ] b) Keep driving and hope for the best. [ ] c) Immediately use your cell phone to call all loved ones. [ ] d) Pull out your video camera and obtain footage for Channel 9. In the instance of rain, you should: [ ] a) Never drive over 5 MPH. [ ] b) Drive twice as fast as usual. [ ] c) You're not sure what rain is. Please indicate your current number of therapy sessions per week: Are you presently taking any of the following medications? [ ] a) Prozac [ ] b) Zovirax [ ] c) Lithium [ ] d) Zanax [ ] e) Valium [ ] f) Medical pot [ ] g) Zoloft [ ] h) All of the above [ ] i) None of the above* * If none, please explain: __. Length of daily commute: [ ] a) Less than 1 hour* [ ] b) 1 hour [ ] c) 2 hours [ ] d) 3 hours [ ] e) 4 hours or more * If less than 1 hour, please explain:. When stopped by police, you should: [ ] a) Pull over and have your driver's license and insurance form ready. [ ] b) Try to outrun them by driving the wrong way on the freeway. [ ] c) Have your video camera ready and provoke them to attack, thus ensuring yourself of a hefty lawsuit profi t. When you see a woman driver with her arm extended out the window, it means: [ ] a) Her turn-signals are broken. [ ] b) She is giving an indication she intends to change lanes. [ ] c) She is drying her nails. Which part of your car will wear out first? [ ] a) The wiper blades [ ] b) The seat belts [ ] c) The horn Automatic door locks are good for: [ ] a) Security [ ] b) Convenience [ ] c) Messing with the heads of people trying to get in. The bright setting on your headlights is for: [ ] a) Dark, poorly lit roads [ ] b) Flashing to get the car ahead to move out of the way [ ] c) Revenge If you are over the age of 75, you do not have to complete this test, you are entitled to drive even if you cannot see, hear, or move xponent No Source Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 07:59:41 -0500 Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP For those of you who are not fortunate enough to live in California, here is a copy of the California Driver's Exam, and for those of you who do, study real hard. This is a new Exam. Since driving conditions (and culture) are unique in California, you may not have realized that the California Department of Motor Vehicles has now issued a special Application and driver's test solely for the California area. 2005 CALIFORNIA DRIVER'S LICENSE APPLICATION Name: ___ Stage Name:__ Agent: ___ Attorney: Therapist's Name: _ Sex: [ ] Male [ ] Female* [ ] Formerly Male [ ] Formerly Female [ ] Both END SNIP Ok thought this was really funny... but now I am wondering is this true??? Because I am doubting if it is true or not, this scares me :¬} (ROB, please tell me it is a joke) -- ___ The pen is mightier than the sword! Edward Bulwer-Lytton (1803-73) Just look what happened in the US in 2000 Bush wins with the Pen of a Judge! Alex Gogan (1968- gulp!) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 10/09/2005 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
Alex Gogan wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 07:59:41 -0500 Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP For those of you who are not fortunate enough to live in California, here is a copy of the California Driver's Exam, and for those of you who do, study real hard. This is a new Exam. Since driving conditions (and culture) are unique in California, you may not have realized that the California Department of Motor Vehicles has now issued a special Application and driver's test solely for the California area. 2005 CALIFORNIA DRIVER'S LICENSE APPLICATION Name: ___ Stage Name:__ Agent: ___ Attorney: Therapist's Name: _ Sex: [ ] Male [ ] Female* [ ] Formerly Male [ ] Formerly Female [ ] Both END SNIP Ok thought this was really funny... but now I am wondering is this true??? Because I am doubting if it is true or not, this scares me :¬} (ROB, please tell me it is a joke) Alex, You need to either take your meds or quit taking them.G It's just some joke thing running round the web. I thought the Californios on the list might get a laugh out of it. xponent Sweet Transvestite Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:24:30 -0500 Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Gogan wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 07:59:41 -0500 Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP For those of you who are not fortunate enough to live in California, here is a copy of the California Driver's Exam, and for those of you who do, study real hard. This is a new Exam. Since driving conditions (and culture) are unique in California, you may not have realized that the California Department of Motor Vehicles has now issued a special Application and driver's test solely for the California area. 2005 CALIFORNIA DRIVER'S LICENSE APPLICATION Name: ___ Stage Name:__ Agent: ___ Attorney: Therapist's Name: _ Sex: [ ] Male [ ] Female* [ ] Formerly Male [ ] Formerly Female [ ] Both END SNIP Ok thought this was really funny... but now I am wondering is this true??? Because I am doubting if it is true or not, this scares me :_} (ROB, please tell me it is a joke) Alex, You need to either take your meds or quit taking them.G It's just some joke thing running round the web. I thought the Californios on the list might get a laugh out of it. xponent Sweet Transvestite Maru rob Hi rob, but what is the scarier thing, the fact that it would not surprise me if it is true? (Oh and I knew it was a joke but was trying to be sarcastic) :¬} I am Irish (and no it doesn't explain anything :¬} ) and I read news reports that in the bible belt they want to teach creationist theory in the schools and then in LA a few years back they wanted to put an embargo on barbeque's, now I know that they can be a major contributor to the damage to the environment and cause so much more than the SUV's (been sarcastic). That political correctness was actually started as a joke in the New York times and was taken seriously and is now almost the bible on how americans live their lives. When in America (which is a country I love to visit, and I think that you have a wonderful country with great people - bar republican voters) now has become so polarised and brain washed that now nothing surprises me anymore. Barbara Bush's last comment (akin to let them eat cake) would have gone around as a joke but its now true. So what is worse: The fact that it would not surprise me that this could be true? or I am kind of disappointed that it is a joke cause it would be damn funny to see some of the responses :¬} -- ___ The pen is mightier than the sword! Edward Bulwer-Lytton (1803-73) Just look what happened in the US in 2000 Bush wins with the Pen of a Judge! Alex Gogan (1968- gulp!) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 10/09/2005 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
On Sep 12, 2005, at 5:59 AM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: For those of you who are not fortunate enough to live in California, here is a copy of the California Driver's Exam, and for those of you who do, study real hard. This is a new Exam. Since driving conditions (and culture) are unique in California, you may not have realized that the California Department of Motor Vehicles has now issued a special Application and driver's test solely for the California area. Gee, aren't stereotypes fun? Next, let's make fun of the funny people with accents and the funny people with handicaps and funny people with the wrong skin colors. If it was written well, it might have been funnier, but the paragraph above shows that not much thought went into it. For what other area would the California DMV issue a special application and test? Dumb. Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
Alex Gogan wrote: Hi rob, but what is the scarier thing, the fact that it would not surprise me if it is true? (Oh and I knew it was a joke but was trying to be sarcastic) ¬} I am Irish (and no it doesn't explain anything :¬} ) I hope to visit Ireland someday. I want to walk the paths of the Tain and see the places where Cu Chullain fought. Where Balor opened his one evil eye. I want to look out the corner of my eye to see if I can spot a Sidhe. Well..really I'd like to see how the land corresponds to the mythology.G and I read news reports that in the bible belt they want to teach creationist theory in the schools and then in LA a few years back they wanted to put an embargo on barbeque's, now I know that they can be a major contributor to the damage to the environment and cause so much more than the SUV's (been sarcastic). That political correctness was actually started as a joke in the New York times and was taken seriously and is now almost the bible on how americans live their lives. When in America (which is a country I love to visit, and I think that you have a wonderful country with great people - bar republican voters) now has become so polarised and brain washed that now nothing surprises me anymore. Barbara Bush's last comment (akin to let them eat cake) would have gone around as a joke but its now true. Yes...the inmates have taken over the asylum.G So what is worse: The fact that it would not surprise me that this could be true? or I am kind of disappointed that it is a joke cause it would be damn funny to see some of the responses :¬} The first is worst. Your disappointment affects fewer people I think than your surprise. xponent Ground Negative One Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
On Sep 12, 2005, at 12:08 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: Alex Gogan wrote: When in America (which is a country I love to visit, and I think that you have a wonderful country with great people - bar republican voters) now has become so polarised and brain washed that now nothing surprises me anymore. Barbara Bush's last comment (akin to let them eat cake) would have gone around as a joke but its now true. Yes...the inmates have taken over the asylum.G The lunatics are in my hall. The paper holds their folded faces to the floor And every day the paperboy brings more. -- Pink Floyd, Brain Damage, _The Dark Side of the Moon_. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
At 02:08 PM Monday 9/12/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote: Alex Gogan wrote: Hi rob, but what is the scarier thing, the fact that it would not surprise me if it is true? (Oh and I knew it was a joke but was trying to be sarcastic) ¬} I am Irish (and no it doesn't explain anything :¬} ) I hope to visit Ireland someday. I want to walk the paths of the Tain and see the places where Cu Chullain fought. Where Balor opened his one evil eye. I want to look out the corner of my eye to see if I can spot a Sidhe. I heard that they all moved to California, where half of them became Hidhe, and the other half got breast implants . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: I hope to visit Ireland someday. I want to walk the paths of the Tain and see the places where Cu Chullain fought. Where Balor opened his one evil eye. I want to look out the corner of my eye to see if I can spot a Sidhe. I heard that they all moved to California, where half of them became Hidhe, and the other half got breast implants . . . You made me *snork* at the library! Now the kids around are looking at me funny (odd, not ha-ha)... Debbi who really does occasionally laugh with that dreadful snorting sound, much as she's tried to suppress it over the years Not One Of The Equine Attributes To Which I Aspired Maru [as opposed to having a really groovy ponytail which can be swished with the best of 'em] `:} __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] forwarded... 2005 CALIFORNIA DRIVER'S LICENSE APPLICATION (snip) Feh. I see this as something created by a southern good-old-boy as an attempt to bash California (his favorite boogie-man ;-) in order to feel a little better about *his* state showing all of its worst aspects. If they really knew all that there is to find here, they wouldn't begin with such stereotypes. -- Matt ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: California Driving Test
Alex Gogan wrote: When in America (which is a country I love to visit, and I think that you have a wonderful country with great people - bar republican voters) now has become so polarised and brain washed that now nothing surprises me anymore. Barbara Bush's last comment (akin to let them eat cake) would have gone around as a joke but its now true. I think the problem of the USA [or maybe it's its greatest virtue?] is that they tend to turn _everything_ into a political-religious issue. Take for example gay rights. In any normal society, as soon as being gay was accepted within the normal deviation from standard [in statistical terms! I am not implying that gays are not normal or deviates!!!] behaviour, it would soon turn that the laws that protect heterosexuals would be extended to gays. But not in the USA, where gay bashing _and_ gay activism became political and religious forces. I have contact with the Down Syndrom community [because my oldest daughter has D.S.], and the questions that flow among the USA D.S. community are filled with politics. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Admin: Test message
We just rebooted the server, so I thought I'd make certain the list is up before I relax... Nick -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voicemail: 408-904-7198 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Admin: Test message
At 06:48 PM Wednesday 6/15/2005, Nick Arnett wrote: We just rebooted the server, so I thought I'd make certain the list is up before I relax... This message arrived here, so you can lean back and open the beverage of your choice . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Yet another on-line test . . .
On Jun 5, 2005, at 3:38 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=15145961900538302649* I got Blissfully non-Mormon as well. That's about right, I think. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Yet another on-line test . . .
On Jun 5, 2005, at 3:38 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=15145961900538302649* Hmmm, I got: Easy-going Mormon: 3 Orthodoxy, 2 LDS knowledge, -9 Cultural homogeneity Mormonism's your faith, but you don't get too uptight about things like wearing only starched white shirts, or knowing that Nephi said blah blah blah. Most of your peers find you exceptionally normal, and you think that's a good thing. In the world, as long as you're not of the world, right? And I'm not even a Mormon. I guess having dated a Mormon taught me something. I think I could be described as an Easy-going Methodist, which I suppose to some folks would scarcely qualify me as a Christian. Blessings, Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Yet another on-line test . . .
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Re: Yet another on-line test . . .
On 5 Jun 2005, at 11:38 am, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=15145961900538302649* Blissfully nonMormon -5 Orthodoxy, -2 LDS knowledge, -29 Cultural homogeneity Orthodoxy ranges from (-) anti-, non- and liberal Mormon, to mainstream, conservative, and fundamentalist Mormon (+). You don't hate Mormonism or anything; to each his own. Giving up sex, alcohol, and 10% of your income to a church that puts saccharine family commercials on TV just seems like a bad deal to you. -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs. -- Robert Firth ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Yet another on-line test . . .
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=15145961900538302649* Non-Mormon -5 Orthodoxy, -2 LDS knowledge, -11 Cultural homogeneity My test tracked 3 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender: You scored higher than 34% on Orthodoxy You scored higher than 8% on LDS knowledge You scored higher than 47% on Homogeneity __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Yet another on-line test . . .
William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5 Jun 2005, at 11:38 am, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Blissfully nonMormon -5 Orthodoxy, -2 LDS knowledge, -29 Cultural homogeneity Orthodoxy ranges from (-) anti-, non- and liberal Mormon, to mainstream, conservative, and fundamentalist Mormon (+). You don't hate Mormonism or anything; to each his own. Giving up sex, alcohol, and 10% of your income to a church that puts saccharine family commercials on TV just seems like a bad deal to you. -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs. -- Robert Firth ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l See! Pathological Liar... Now you know how I made it through grad school at a liberal womens college! Perfect Mormon 8 Orthodoxy, 3 LDS knowledge, 11 Cultural homogeneity - Orthodoxy ranges from (-) anti-, non- and liberal Mormon, to mainstream, conservative, and fundamentalist Mormon (+). The obedient Latter-day Saint. Temple recommend in hand, you live the gospel every day. Like a city on a hill, you remember the slogan every member a missionary. You beat your peers in seminary scripture chase, and you look forward to (or fondly remember) your beautiful temple wedding PS: I'm REALLY Roman cATHOLIC Leonard Matusik [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Another Holocene test.
For those of you who had been trying out holocne, we are trying out some new features on a more stable server, this Thursday at 4pm Pacific, 7pm Eastern. One great new feature, you can pin another person's dialgue box over to one side of your screen. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
possible test of Holocene Chat
Trent has suggested that Brin-L might be a good community to test my Holocene Chat invention. (see: http://www.holocenechat.com/) I believe you folks do have a weekly realtime session already? We are currently doing a few selected demos of the system. Can't accommodate very many. But if you are already in the realtime group and know a thing or two about its operation, let me know your interest in participating in a coming demo. We'll be having one the afternoon of Tuesday the 11th. With cordial regards, David Brin www.davidbrin.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: possible test of Holocene Chat
In a message dated 1/6/2005 2:35:06 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Trent has suggested that Brin-L might be a good community to test my Holocene Chat invention. (see: http://www.holocenechat.com/) I believe you folks do have a weekly realtime session already? We are currently doing a few selected demos of the system. Can't accommodate very many. But if you are already in the realtime group and know a thing or two about its operation, let me know your interest in participating in a coming demo. We'll be having one the afternoon of Tuesday the 11th. Count me in. Interested to find out if the whoopee cushion sound is going to be more realistic. Vilyehm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
TESTING: Brin: test
This is a test to see if we can, indeed, moderate all messages with Brin: in the subject, so that we can easily shut off the message flow to David. If it works, nobody will see this message. If it doesn't... sorry. Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: TESTING: Brin test
Nick, don't panic. All's well if there are lingering messages. I ain't mad. Don't sweat it. Just thrive. --- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a test to see if we can, indeed, moderate all messages with Brin: in the subject, so that we can easily shut off the message flow to David. If it works, nobody will see this message. If it doesn't... sorry. Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Government Plan to Test Prescription Stimulant on Children
Warren Ockrassa wrote: Why, it's a blessing -- a blessing, I say -- that they were around to discover these terrible scourges of childhood. Imagine how awful life would be if kids were active, full of energy and asked endless lists of questions about life, the universe and everything. Clearly something had to be done! And thanks to Saint Ritalin, children no longer enjoy that Satan-inspired Rock Roll, but become fans of Phil Collins! Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Government Plan to Test Prescription Stimulant on Children
On Aug 20, 2004, at 3:49 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: http://www.newsday.com/news/health/ny- hsexp203936261aug20,0,365506.story PLAN TO TEST PRESCRIPTION STIMULANT Experts question ethics What's to question? We already condemn our children to die; it seems to me that doping 'em with a little drugs really isn't very much by comparison. Besides, pharmaceutical companies have already well-established the existence of ADD and ADHD and they surely would have no reason to lie about those until-recently entirely unknown conditions, now would they? Why, it's a blessing -- a blessing, I say -- that they were around to discover these terrible scourges of childhood. Imagine how awful life would be if kids were active, full of energy and asked endless lists of questions about life, the universe and everything. Clearly something had to be done! Obviously pharm companies are on the level or they'd have gone bankrupt by now, since an outraged public would, in protest, boycott their products. If you can't trust a multibillion-dollar industry, what exactly can you trust? Right? -- WthmO This email is a work of fiction. Any similarity between its contents and any truth, entire or partial, is purely coincidental and should not be misconstrued. -- ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tytlal designed test at an Uplift Ceremony
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tytlal designed test Trying to give clearer statements: OK... I'm thinking of using this as a test at the Rousit Uplift Ceremony: - You are a Rousit in a party of ten Rousits. Since you can't speak, the tytlal are going to work on an equal level and only give you instructions using pantomime and hand signals. Only one er needs to pass the test and the entire party moves on. Every rousit in the party that fails has to drop out. There are three cream pies on a table. Five meters away is another table. Both tables have stacks of small towls, smaller than a pie. Anytime a towl is used, another one is put on the stack. One er must transport all three pies from one table to another. At the same time. There are small spikes on the bottom of the metal rims. If touched, a shock is delivered that's strong enough to make you drop the pie. (And you earlier dealt with the possibility of using towels as insulators?) You can lift or move the pie from the edge of the rim. Why not Hands can not touch the cream nor a band from the rim of the pie to the middle. And Cream may not touch table or ground. A tytlal points out that the hands cannot touch the actual pie. He points from the wrist to the tip of the fingers. If a pie is lifted up, one can see that the bottom is made out of glass, in a slightly concave cone, and it has a rectangular pattern in the center. There are also three casters on the bottom and only after you have lifted up a pie to look, it's demonstrated that this means that a pie cannot be balanced on your head. (This description does not indicate that there is a knob in the middle of the bottom of the pieplate.) If any part of a pie touches either table or the ground inbetween, you're disqualified. All of each pie must rest on the other table when you're done. How do you do it? --I'd rather see if you come up with an original answer, but after a spoiler space, I have two answers below. Answer one: An unexpected solution from the government sponsored Rousit. (The ones with humor being bred out of them.) Two pies are slid to the edge of the table and are picked up from the center of the glass. The rousit then leans forward and puts his elbows on the table. Another rousit balances the third pie between the two forearms and the chest. It's legal because as the elbows are on the table, one rousit _is_ transporting the three pies from table to table. Or hold multiple pies by pressing their plates on the rim, between arms and body? (Are you assuming that the cream goes over the edge some? But even then, so what? See below.) Answer two: The one the Tytlal wanted. As only the hand cannot touch the pie, the first two pies are still held from the glass bottom. The rousit then leans forward, plants his or her face right into the third pie and clamps their mouth down onto the hidden glass knob. When they get to the other tapbe, the rest of the party carefully use the small towls to wipe off any pie that remains on the face. Then the used towls are carefully placed clean side down on the table. Note that not all of the pie makes it to the other table this way. A little bit is guaranteed to remain inside of the Rousit. (There'd certainly be enough to taste the pie as one carried it.) Since Galactics tend to be a bit literal, you have to spell out something like No more than 1 gram may be lost. ---David Or just eat all three pies, stack the empty plates, and carry them to the other table--if a higher percentage of loss is allowed. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tytlal designed test at an Uplift Ceremony
In a message dated 6/16/2004 4:49:09 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why not Hands can not touch the cream nor a band from the rim of the pie to the middle. And Cream may not touch table or ground. And that 100 percent of the cream from two of the pies must make it to the other table. Perhaps 80 percent for the third? This is good, David The instructions have to be simple and mainly pictorial, as the pre sapient rousit brain worked that way. (This description does not indicate that there is a knob in the middle of the bottom of the pieplate.) Before the Uplift Ceremony, all the Rousit were to have been served a nut tray that had the same concave bottom, and a center rectangular handle. I do want to narrow down the range of possible solutions. The two necessary results being: 1. The Tytlal solution is going to be undignified in the eyes of the rest of the sophants participating in the Ceremony. 2. There _is_ a dignified solution that the Tytlal didn't think of. Everything has to be backwards engineered from these two statements. And let's see 2005 should be Kiln Time, then 2006 for Jijo Ascendant, then 2007 for something else I think we have a few years to figure it out. William Taylor ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tytlal designed test at an Uplift Ceremony
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tytlal designed test OK... I'm thinking of using this as a test at the Rousit Uplift Ceremony: ... There are three cream pies on a table. Five meters away is another table. Both tables have stacks of small towls, smaller than a pie. Anytime a towl is used, another one is put on the stack. One er must transport all three pies from one table to another. At the same time. ... --I'd rather see if you come up with an original answer, but after a spoiler space, I have two answers below. Here's an original answer. You have an infinite supply of towels. So fill the space between the tables with enough towels to make a bridge from one table to the other. Then slowly push all three pies at once along the bridge. ---David This solution might not be much fun to watch... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tytlal designed test at an Uplift Ceremony
In a message dated 6/15/2004 5:28:42 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's an original answer. You have an infinite supply of towels. So fill the space between the tables with enough towels to make a bridge from one table to the other. Then slowly push all three pies at once along the bridge. ---David This solution might not be much fun to watch... Ok, I've already figured out that the towels catch fire if they touch the metal rims. Guess I'll have to add that they ignite if they hit the floor. So it'll be better if I add a thin rubber ring to the edge of the rim, and they'll get a shock if they touch any part of the metal. And as this is supposed to be part of a novel length story (Help me, Mr. Wizard!) there will be plenty of foreshadowing for the solution the Tytlal wanted to see, and absolutely no warning for the solution the Tytlal never expected. William Taylor ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tytlal designed test at an Uplift Ceremony
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, I've already figured out that the towels catch fire if they touch the metal rims. Guess I'll have to add that they ignite if they hit the floor. So it'll be better if I add a thin rubber ring to the edge of the rim, and they'll get a shock if they touch any part of the metal. And as this is supposed to be part of a novel length story (Help me, Mr. Wizard!) there will be plenty of foreshadowing for the solution the Tytlal wanted to see, and absolutely no warning for the solution the Tytlal never expected. Maybe I'm missing the rule against it, but couldn't they just stack the 3 pies on top of each other and carry them over that way? It'd be a bit messy with the casters, but less so than the pie-in-the-face method. _ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tytlal designed test at an Uplift Ceremony
In a message dated 6/15/2004 10:05:56 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe I'm missing the rule against it, but couldn't they just stack the 3 pies on top of each other and carry them over that way? It'd be a bit messy with the casters, but less so than the pie-in-the-face method. Hmm Two pies with the whipped cream piled so high that it'd spill over onto the table? Or the center of the underside being the same color as the table? Or just add in the rule that the three pies can't touch each other. --- There's a line in The Uplift War about if all else fails one can revert to using cream pies. I figured I was going to have something like a pre Ceremony party where all the rousit are served nut trays with handles in the center. Some type of foreshadowing. As to the chest point solution, the Tytlal would never think of ruling it out. After all, the Tytlal are all uncouth and would never think of banning elbows on the table. Vilyehm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tytlal designed test at an Uplift Ceremony
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Here's an original answer. You have an infinite supply of towels. So fill the space between the tables with enough towels to make a bridge from one table to the other. Then slowly push all three pies at once along the bridge. ---David ... Ok, I've already figured out that the towels catch fire if they touch the metal rims. Guess I'll have to add that they ignite if they hit the floor. So it'll be better if I add a thin rubber ring to the edge of the rim, and they'll get a shock if they touch any part of the metal. This seems to be getting pretty involved. What were the towels FOR, anyway? I admit to not reading _Contacting Aliens_. Are the Rousit known for fastidiousness, or something? Or do you mean that the presence of towels is supposed to indicate to the Rousit that the solution involves getting dirty? Anyway, a closer reading shows that the problem is impossible: There are three cream pies on a table. ... If any part of a pie touches either table or the ground inbetween, you're disqualified. It looks to me as if everyone is immediately disqualified. Or are you trying to make a distinction between pie and pieplate? ---David Pieman's Blues ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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In a message dated 6/15/2004 7:45:33 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway, a closer reading shows that the problem is impossible: OK There are three cream pies on a table. ... If any part of --the actual cream of the-- pie touches either table or the ground inbetween, you're disqualified. It looks to me as if everyone is immediately disqualified. Or are you trying to make a distinction between pie and pieplate? ---David Pie only. And because if you tried to stack the three pies, some cream would sqish out onto the table or floor. Oh...just thought of this If the cream was a light pale green, and since it is an Uplift Ceremony, the Tytlal could be singing at the time: Key lime every mountain. This seems to be getting pretty involved. What were the towels FOR, anyway? (Cleaning the face.) I admit to not reading _Contacting Aliens_. Are the Rousit known for fastidiousness, or something? The Rousit are not known. PERIOD. They are mentioned in Heaven's Reach while the action was on Kazzkark. And left out of Contacting Aliens. They were not known by the hoon on Jijo, so I made them a rather new discovery. They had no speaking parts, so I made them still mute. They were small compared to a chimp and they could ride upon a hoon's shoulder, so I made them Wazoon sized. Then I said that the non Alvin hoon faction is trying to breed out all traces of humor. And Alvin objects (And so far our good Dr. Brin hasn't. All he's said is that Tom and Gillian do not meet on Hurumphta. He's got something better planned.) Vilyehm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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In a message dated 6/15/2004 9:00:40 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Key lime every mountain. IGH! You, sir, need to be punished for that one! Did you here the ISIRTA one where the unused southern german flour mills were going to be used as kennels? The mills are alive with the hounds of Munich So it aint my fault. Vilyehm ISIRTA = I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again John Cleese Tim Brooke-Taylor Bill Odie David Hatch Joan Kendle Scripts by Eric Idle ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Tytlal designed test at an Uplift Ceremony
Tytlal designed test OK... I'm thinking of using this as a test at the Rousit Uplift Ceremony: - You are a Rousit in a party of ten Rousits. Since you can't speak, the tytlal are going to work on an equal level and only give you instructions using pantomime and hand signals. Only one er needs to pass the test and the entire party moves on. Every rousit in the party that fails has to drop out. There are three cream pies on a table. Five meters away is another table. Both tables have stacks of small towls, smaller than a pie. Anytime a towl is used, another one is put on the stack. One er must transport all three pies from one table to another. At the same time. There are small spikes on the bottom of the metal rims. If touched, a shock is delivered that's strong enough to make you drop the pie. You can lift or move the pie from the edge of the rim. A tytlal points out that the hands cannot touch the actual pie. He points from the wrist to the tip of the fingers. If a pie is lifted up, one can see that the bottom is made out of glass, in a slightly concave cone, and it has a rectangular pattern in the center. There are also three casters on the bottom and only after you have lifted up a pie to look, it's demonstrated that this means that a pie cannot be balanced on your head. If any part of a pie touches either table or the ground inbetween, you're disqualified. All of each pie must rest on the other table when you're done. How do you do it? --I'd rather see if you come up with an original answer, but after a spoiler space, I have two answers below. William Taylor Spunky Spanky Spielberg.. SPOILER.. (There, I finally got it right.) S P O I L U R K E R Hey you, get out of this email! S p o i l e r (That's better.) Answer one: An unexpected solution from the government sponsored Rousit. (The ones with humor being bred out of them.) Two pies are slid to the edge of the table and are picked up from the center of the glass. The rousit then leans forward and puts his elbows on the table. Another rousit balances the third pie between the two forearms and the chest. It's legal because as the elbows are on the table, one rousit _is_ transporting the three pies from table to table. Answer two: The one the Tytlal wanted. As only the hand cannot touch the pie, the first two pies are still held from the glass bottom. The rousit then leans forward, plants his or her face right into the third pie and clamps their mouth down onto the hidden glass knob. When they get to the other tapbe, the rest of the party carefully use the small towls to wipe off any pie that remains on the face. Then the used towls are carefully placed clean side down on the table. Too silly? Or too convoluted to expect a first stage being to be able to figure it out? Vilyehm Teighlore ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Southern-ness test
Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanksgiving is not complete without cornbread dressing and barbeque is made from beef!G Uhm, I'm not _that_ Southern...my mom being a Yankee, there is definitely no BBQ at Thanksgiving! Nor does us'n. That should read to say that We'uns require cornbread dressing at Thanksgiving dinner, and on another note, that anything called Barbeque that does not contain beef is simply not Barbeque, though the exception is made in the case of chicken. G Whut about poork?! Tha's some *good* barbeeQ samich! Debbi who will be eating Cajun food at a charity event next Saturday (and reading tarot fortunes as an additional fundraiser -- gotta review the cards this week!) Cajun food! Yum Yum Does ya suck the head? G Eeuww, no -- I think you have to be born Cajun to enjoy slurping crawdad guts...but the tails taste like sweet bits of lobster (sort of). M, spice-boiled crawfish with taters 'n' onyuns 'n' karrats! :D Debbi Shrimp Etouffee And Remoulade Maru (sp?) drools __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.tricklefan.com/southern/test.html Debbi Luv Dem Crawfish, But Pass On Dos Chitlins! Maru Chitlins are good! So's oxtail soup, tripe, and collard greens. shudders violently at even the *thought* of tripe Greens (collard, mustard, turnip) are especially good when flavored with bacon grease... :D How bout fried ocra? Or a tomater with a salt shaker? Fried okra is good, as is okra stewed with tomatoes or baked with eggplant. Unless it's a home-grown tomato, I won't eat it raw; but one of my favorite summer dishes to make is tabouli with home-grown tomatoes and cucumbers (add chick peas and sesame seeds for extra taste and texture) Peanut butter and banana sandwich? grin Been a while since I had one of those! Fried sweet taters? Mmmm, sweet taters fried, baked, roasted, candied or cooked in with just about anything... Thanksgiving is not complete without cornbread dressing and barbeque is made from beef!G Uhm, I'm not _that_ Southern...my mom being a Yankee, there is definitely no BBQ at Thanksgiving! Debbi who will be eating Cajun food at a charity event next Saturday (and reading tarot fortunes as an additional fundraiser -- gotta review the cards this week!) __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Southern-ness test
- Original Message - From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 12:41 PM Subject: Re: Southern-ness test Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanksgiving is not complete without cornbread dressing and barbeque is made from beef!G Uhm, I'm not _that_ Southern...my mom being a Yankee, there is definitely no BBQ at Thanksgiving! Nor does us'n. That should read to say that We'uns require cornbread dressing at Thanksgiving dinner, and on another note, that anything called Barbeque that does not contain beef is simply not Barbeque, though the exception is made in the case of chicken. G Debbi who will be eating Cajun food at a charity event next Saturday (and reading tarot fortunes as an additional fundraiser -- gotta review the cards this week!) Cajun food! Yum Yum Does ya suck the head? G xponent Friendly To Those With Webbed Toes Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: William T Goodall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tricklefan.com/southern/test.html I got 30/71... 41 out of 71. It's scary how many of those I knew, actually... - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 08:13:25 -0500, Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: William T Goodall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tricklefan.com/southern/test.html I got 30/71... 41 out of 71. It's scary how many of those I knew, actually... - jmh Wow, I got 45/71, a Southern sympathizer. Shocked as I thought I was getting much less than half. I've always been good at multiple choice. For 56 they left off: a. The War of Northern Aggression For 61 cooking okra depends on what part of the South but fried might be most common. Gary Denton #1 3 on google for Texas lemming ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Southern-ness test - Original Message - From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 4:41 PM Subject: Re: Southern-ness test http://www.tricklefan.com/southern/test.html I got 30/71... 27/71 49/71 without thinking about it. I got 41/71. I agree that it heavily favors NASCAR nation. I have a hunch my mother in law, who clearly is a southerner, would have to guess on the car questions. Proper Southern Ladies of her time did not go to car races. :-) Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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http://www.tricklefan.com/southern/test.html I got 30/71... -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. - Bjarne Stroustrup ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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http://www.tricklefan.com/southern/test.html I got 30/71... 27/71 Damon. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.tricklefan.com/southern/test.html I got 30/71... 35/71 - almost a Southerner I have to say that this is really a test for Southern _men_, as there were far too many questions about car specs for any gal but someone like my sister-in-law (who has helped rebuild car engines). Debbi Luv Dem Crawfish, But Pass On Dos Chitlins! Maru __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Southern-ness test
- Original Message - From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 4:41 PM Subject: Re: Southern-ness test http://www.tricklefan.com/southern/test.html I got 30/71... 27/71 49/71 without thinking about it. xponent Mostly Easy Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 05:27 PM 6/4/2004, you wrote: http://www.tricklefan.com/southern/test.html I got 30/71... Had to really ponder some of them. The music/hunting/fishing/drinking ones saved me. 42/71 Kevin T. -VSouthernRWC The war of Northern ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tricklefan.com/southern/test.html I got 30/71... 27/71 33/71, and probably half those were lucky guesses. _ MSN 9 Dial-up Internet Access fights spam and pop-ups now 3 months FREE! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Southern-ness test
- Original Message - From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 5:07 PM Subject: Re: Southern-ness test William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.tricklefan.com/southern/test.html Debbi Luv Dem Crawfish, But Pass On Dos Chitlins! Maru Chitlins are good! So's oxtail soup, tripe, and collard greens. How bout fried ocra? Or a tomater with a salt shaker? Peanut butter and banana sandwich? Fried sweet taters? Thanksgiving is not complete without cornbread dressing and barbeque is made from beef!G xponent Culinary Delights Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Southern-ness test
On 5 Jun 2004, at 12:43 am, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 5:07 PM Subject: Re: Southern-ness test William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.tricklefan.com/southern/test.html Debbi Luv Dem Crawfish, But Pass On Dos Chitlins! Maru Chitlins are good! So's oxtail soup, tripe, and collard greens. How bout fried ocra? Or a tomater with a salt shaker? Peanut butter and banana sandwich? Fried sweet taters? Yum! It was mostly the food and drink questions I got right. International cuisine Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again. -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Southern-ness test
- Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 7:43 PM Subject: Re: Southern-ness test On 5 Jun 2004, at 12:43 am, Robert Seeberger wrote: Chitlins are good! So's oxtail soup, tripe, and collard greens. How bout fried ocra? Or a tomater with a salt shaker? Peanut butter and banana sandwich? Fried sweet taters? Yum! It was mostly the food and drink questions I got right. International cuisine Maru Yup! Po folks vittles are pretty similar everywhere at least as long as the available foodstuffs are the same. xponent Dinnertime Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Deborah Harrell wrote: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.tricklefan.com/southern/test.html I got 30/71... 35/71 - almost a Southerner I have to say that this is really a test for Southern _men_, as there were far too many questions about car specs for any gal but someone like my sister-in-law (who has helped rebuild car engines). Debbi Luv Dem Crawfish, But Pass On Dos Chitlins! Maru Hey, I've rebuilt a car engine. But it was a Volkswagen, so I bombed all the car questions anyway. : ( And the music ones, and the hunting ones, and the brand name ones, ... I got 38/71 on general knowledge, and guesses. (How many guesses? Wow, an actual real-life application of algebra! Solving (71-x) + (x/4) = 38, I get that around 44 were guesses.) ---David Not a Southerner. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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David wrote: I got 38/71 on general knowledge, and guesses. (How many guesses? Wow, an actual real-life application of algebra! Solving (71-x) + (x/4) = 38, I get that around 44 were guesses.) 44/71 - Southern Sympathizer Ha. I lived in South Carolina for about a year while in the Navy, and made several business trips to a place called Tallassee Alabama which is between Montgomery and Auburn (got that one right), but about half of my correct answers were educated guesses. -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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William T Goodall wrote: http://www.tricklefan.com/southern/test.html I got 30/71... 47/71. I messed up on a lot of the car-related ones and some of the music-related ones, mostly. I knew all the tobacco-related ones, though. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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William T Goodall wrote: http://www.tricklefan.com/southern/test.html I got 30/71... Only 41/71, Southern Sympathizer. And I also had a lot of trouble with the car innard questions. :-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Private Spaceship Completes Second Rocket-Powered Test Flight
http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/spaceshipone_test_040408.html The privately-backed SpaceShipOne suborbital rocket plane made its second powered flight today. Built by Scaled Composites of Mojave, California, the piloted vehicle was powered by a hybrid rocket motor to over 105,000 feet. The engine burned for 40 seconds, zipping to Mach 2, or two times the speed of sound, according to a source that witnessed the test flight high above Mojave, California skies. SpaceShipOne's second successful powered flight was piloted by Peter Siebold. No details about the flight have been publicly issued by Scaled Composites, although the firm did respond to SPACE.com inquiries that, indeed, the flight had occurred and a de-briefing about the vehicles handling during the test is underway. SpaceShipOnes first powered flight took place on December 17, 2003. In that test, the motor roared to life for 15 seconds. According to another Scaled Composites source, today's flight was the 13th airborne demonstration of the vehicle. Extensive testing The Scaled Composites SpaceShipOne project is being led by aircraft designer Burt Rutan, who heads the company. A major contractor for the hybrid motor used in the craft is SpaceDev of Poway, California. The rocket plane and its carrier mothership, the White Knight, were rolled out in a public ceremony on April 18, 2003. Nearly a year later, the SpaceShipOne has undergone extensive piloted glide tests, and now two powered flights. Scaled Composites has its eyes on snagging the X Prize, a high-stakes international race to fly a reusable private vehicle to the edge of space and return safely to Earth. The X Prize Foundation of St. Louis, Missouri will award $10 million to the first company or organization to launch a vehicle capable of carrying three people to a height of 62.5 miles (100 kilometers), return safely to Earth, and repeat the flight with the same vehicle within two weeks. The clock is running For the cash prize, however, the clock is running as the $10 million purse expires as of the end of this year. Twenty-seven contestants representing seven countries have already registered for the X Prize contest, modeled on the $25,000 Orteig Prize for which Charles Lindbergh flew solo from New York to Paris in 1927. Just yesterday, the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) announced it had issued the world's first license for a sub-orbital manned rocket flight. The license was issued April 1 by the DOTs Federal Aviation Administration's Office of Commercial Space Transportation to Scaled Composites. This federal paperwork green-lighted a sequence of sub-orbital flights by Scaled Composites for a one-year period. Safety first The FAA sub-orbital space flight license is required for U.S. contenders in the X Prize competition. In its 20 years of existence, the FAA's Office of Commercial Space Transportation has licensed more than 150 commercial launches of unmanned expendable launch vehicles. The license to Scaled Composites is the first to authorize piloted flight on a sub-orbital trajectory, the DOT statement noted. While the highest criteria to issue a license are public safety, applicants must undergo an extensive pre-application process, demonstrate adequate financial responsibility to cover any potential losses, and meet strict environmental requirements. xponent It's Coming Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Libertarian Purity Test
At 05:02 PM 3/18/2004, you wrote: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Horn, John wrote: From: Kevin Tarr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi/purity.cgi 11. Kinda reassuring, actually. What is reassuring is that *someone* finally had a lower score than I did. 18 JDG - Resident crazy conservative, right? As a 16, can I claim to be one of the list's most bizarrely unpredictable WRT political issues? ;) (Actually, I agree with whoever said that the wording was far too strong to answer a flat 'yes' to many questions, but a graded response would have placed me on a somewhat more libertarian side. But only somewhat!) Debbi Every question seemed easy to me; they were straight forward. Paraphrasing: Do you think medical marijuana should be legal Y/N? Do you think carrying less than 5 grams of marijuana should be legal? Do you think any amount of M should be legal? Do you think all drugs should be decriminalised? Isn't that how a person forms their thoughts? No qualifications, no if/but; just this is the issue in black and white, this is a dividing line, which side do you choose? Even though I had a high score (compared to others on the list) some of the final questions were turning my stomach. The libertarian party is having a convention in Harrisburg this weekend. Don't know if it's statewide or national. I was thinking of going, but not now. Kevin T. - VRWC Going to play cards at camp instead. If we can get to it, another couple inches of snow last night. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Kevin Tarr wrote: ... (Actually, I agree with whoever said that the wording was far too strong to answer a flat 'yes' to many questions, but a graded response would have placed me on a somewhat more libertarian side. But only somewhat!) Debbi Every question seemed easy to me; they were straight forward. Paraphrasing: Do you think medical marijuana should be legal Y/N? Do you think carrying less than 5 grams of marijuana should be legal? Do you think any amount of M should be legal? Do you think all drugs should be decriminalised? Isn't that how a person forms their thoughts? No qualifications, no if/but; just this is the issue in black and white, this is a dividing line, which side do you choose? I took it, and got a 10 or something. I don't think it was well-designed, because it insisted on viewing complex issues in terms that were too simple. For instance, I'm usually for market-based solutions to problems. But a completely free market is seldom best, government regulation is needed to frame the market so it operates well. How should I answer? Sometimes is not an option. Kevin, your drug example is a special case. Most issues are not so straight forward. ---David ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi/purity.cgi 11. Kinda reassuring, actually. What is reassuring is that *someone* finally had a lower score than I did. 18 JDG - Resident crazy conservative, right? Hmmm... I might have to take another look at some of those questions... Perhaps I was reading them wrong. grin Though Libertarianism doesn't seem to be on the same x-y spectrum as liberal vs. conservative. The Libertarians seem to be... out there ... somewhere... - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Tarr wrote: [I wrote] (Actually, I agree with whoever said that the wording was far too strong to answer a flat 'yes' to many questions, but a graded response would have placed me on a somewhat more libertarian side. But only somewhat!) Every question seemed easy to me; they were straight forward. Paraphrasing: Do you think medical marijuana should be legal Y/N? sniplet Isn't that how a person forms their thoughts? No qualifications, no if/but; just this is the issue in black and white, this is a dividing line, which side do you choose? I took it, and got a 10 or something. I don't think it was well-designed, because it insisted on viewing complex issues in terms that were too simple. Ditto that last phrase. sniplet How should I answer? Sometimes is not an option. Kevin, your drug example is a special case. Most issues are not so straight forward. grin The drug questions were the only reason I scored as 'high' as I did! If an adult wants to kill off their own brain cells, reduce their fertility (and sometimes libido) or turn their liver into dogmeat, why should I care -- as long as it doesn't affect anybody else? [Of course, there's the rub... :/ ] Debbi who voted for medical marijuana usage when the referendum was on the ballot [there is legit need, IMO] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Horn, John wrote: From: Kevin Tarr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi/purity.cgi 11. Kinda reassuring, actually. What is reassuring is that *someone* finally had a lower score than I did. 18 JDG - Resident crazy conservative, right? As a 16, can I claim to be one of the list's most bizarrely unpredictable WRT political issues? ;) (Actually, I agree with whoever said that the wording was far too strong to answer a flat 'yes' to many questions, but a graded response would have placed me on a somewhat more libertarian side. But only somewhat!) Debbi __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 08:32 AM 3/16/2004 -0600 Horn, John wrote: From: Kevin Tarr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi/purity.cgi 11. Kinda reassuring, actually. What is reassuring is that *someone* finally had a lower score than I did. 18 JDG - Resident crazy conservative, right? ___ John D. Giorgis - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity. - George W. Bush 1/29/03 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Kevin Tarr wrote: http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi/purity.cgi I had 40. Kevin T. - VRWC Failed again 41, even though a lot of the questions were pretty crappy. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Libertarian Purity Test
Kevin Tarr wrote: http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi/purity.cgi I had 40. Kevin T. - VRWC Failed again 14. Many of the questions were just a bit too strongly worded to get a 'yes' vote. -- Matt ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Libertarian Purity Test
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kevin Tarr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi/purity.cgi 46. But if asked why, I doubt I would have so high. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Libertarian Purity Test
On 13 Mar 2004, at 3:17 am, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 7:57 PM Subject: Libertarian Purity Test http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi/purity.cgi I had 40. 32 55 But the questions read differently if you are not in the USA... -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. -- Donald E. Knuth ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Libertarian Purity Test
http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi/purity.cgi I had 40. Kevin T. - VRWC Failed again ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Libertarian Purity Test
- Original Message - From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 7:57 PM Subject: Libertarian Purity Test http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi/purity.cgi I had 40. 32 xponent Nutcases Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
test the nation
should the east coasters provide answers for the rest of the country? OSL Kevin T. - VRWC My cat's breath smells like cat food! (or, this is my friday night? sob) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: test the nation
At 08:17 PM 3/5/2004, you wrote: Kevin wrote: should the east coasters provide answers for the rest of the country? OSL Sure, why not. Which answers would those be, BTW? And what's OSL? Kevin T. - VRWC My cat's breath smells like cat food! (or, this is my friday night? sob) OK, everyone's an sob... -- Doug can't always be right 8^) It means Obligatory Second Line. OSL Oh, some fox show, based on a british show. a national IQ test. Kevin T. - VRWC Don't feel so smart ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Home test kit for second-hand smoke exposure
Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] but the basic statistics on second hand smoke have been supported by real testing. snip I think it is a mistake to look for single causes when the potential for synergistic effects should be evident. Yes, tobacco and other air pollutants/contaminants can be contributory, additive or synergystic (that was touched on in some of the air pollution abstracts I posted); a uranium miner who smokes a couple of packs a day likely has a greater statistical chance of developing lung cancer than a non-smoking miner, or a smoker non-miner (I say likely b/c I can't recall the exact reference, but will track it down if requested). Just what is in that underarm deodorant anyway? And how much of it gets into your lymphatic system? nod Yes, a recent study links breast cancer with aluminum-containing deodorants -- the question may be, as in Alzheimer's, does aluminum _cause_ the mutation/tangle, or does the mutated cell/fibrillary tangle bind Al more tightly for some reason? If you can smell it or taste it, or rub it on your body, its likely in your bloodstream seconds later. Organic solvents are particularly nasty for penetrating the skin; many water-soluble chemicals are repelled effectively by intact skin. Mucous membranes are more vulnerable to both, as well as to penetration by microbes, which is why the digestive system has such a high concentration of immune tissue. Our defenses are pretty darn good against the hordes of bacteria and viruses waiting to pounce, and over the millenia we've recruited our own host of protective bugs to aid in the battle, but we haven't had time to develop good strategies against some of the chemicals that never existed in our environment before the industrial revolution. Some can be interpreted as a variant of our own self-generated hormones, and wreak mischief. Certain 'communities' of bacteria, OTOH, as a group can adapt to fairly toxic organic compounds, one breaking a portion from it, and passing the metabolite on to the next in the chain. Debbi who'd better stop before she whirls off in a tangent on the web of life... ;) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Practice? (was: Home test kit for second-hand smoke exposure)
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia wrote: Uh, yeah. How hard can it be to pee on the correct part of the thing, anyway? :) Depends on how far awy you stand. 8^) Doug ROU Target Practice lol Well, apparently in some trials with actual patients, as many as 20+% performed the test incorrectly somehow...I think most were timing or dilution errors. Debbi We Aim To Please...You Aim Too, Please! Maru ;) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Scouted: Home test kit for second-hand smoke exposure
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3996062/ Martha S. Jones has asthma, so whenever her husband, Bob, lights up at their Woodbridge home, the agreement is that he steps outside. She used to think that protected her from exposure to the more than 4,000 chemical compounds found in cigarette smoke, 43 of which are known to cause cancer in humans or animals. Then she tried a new do-it-yourself urine test for detecting exposure to secondhand smoke, and her sense of security dissolved. The test rated her at 2 on a scale of 6 -- one notch below that of a regular smoker. Jones said she was shocked to register such a high level of passive smoke exposure, which she thinks came from nicotine residue in her husband's car and time spent with his smoking friends away from their house. Now she is working -- delicately -- to persuade her husband to quit, she said... ...The TobacAlerttest doesn't require expensive and time-consuming lab analysis, and results appear in about 15 minutes, Munzar said. The test strip is sensitive enough to detect only an hour of exposure to tobacco smoke in the previous three days... ...Secondhand smoke is well established by scientists as a cause of disease in nonsmokers. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that secondhand smoke causes 3,000 adult nonsmokers to die of lung cancer each year, and some experts say many other deaths result from cardiovascular illnesses triggered or exacerbated by smoke exposure. The CDC says secondhand smoke causes coughing, phlegm, reduced lung function and reddened, itchy, watery eyes for countless people. In children younger than 18 months, secondhand smoke causes 150,000 to 300,000 respiratory tract infections a year, the CDC estimates. Children frequently exposed to tobacco smoke suffer more respiratory problems and ear infections and are more likely to develop asthma, the agency said. About 60 percent of deaths from sudden infant death syndrome are attributable to exposure to parental tobacco smoke before or after birth, CDC said. If you argue in court that secondhand smoke doesn't kill, they will laugh you out of court, said James L. Repace, a Beltsville-based air quality expert who has participated in dozens of battles nationwide over smoking restrictions. Repace said home tests could inspire more suits. Once people find out they are exposed in such graphic terms, they get upset, he said... This kit is much cheaper than the tests performed at medical laboratories, and the manufacterer said TobacAlert compared favorably with lab tests in company studies, and they promised to share details in scientific meetings and journals -- various other home test kits can be of high quality, like pregnancy tests, but certainly this one shouldn't be used in any legal proceeding until it is shown to be equally accurate. Debbi __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Home test kit for second-hand smoke exposure
- Original Message - From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: brinl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:03 PM Subject: Scouted: Home test kit for second-hand smoke exposure [Snip bad science for commercial purposes] And Martha then vacuums her new carpet, uses household cleansers and breaths the fumes, burns a candle for a good part of the evening, and then drives to a Wal-Mart at the confluence of two interstates. Martha dies of lung cancer 50 years later at the age of 80 and is duly listed as a tobacco related death. xponent Second Hand Smoke Nazis Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Home test kit for second-hand smoke exposure
- Original Message - From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Home test kit for second-hand smoke exposure - Original Message - From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: brinl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:03 PM Subject: Scouted: Home test kit for second-hand smoke exposure [Snip bad science for commercial purposes] And Martha then vacuums her new carpet, uses household cleansers and breaths the fumes, burns a candle for a good part of the evening, and then drives to a Wal-Mart at the confluence of two interstates. Martha dies of lung cancer 50 years later at the age of 80 and is duly listed as a tobacco related death. There is a pretty easy experiment test for this; use a control group of people who don't live with smokers and work in a smoke free environment. The test kit that indicates getting sick from the smell in the car is a bit suspect, but the basic statistics on second hand smoke have been supported by real testing. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Home test kit for second-hand smoke exposure
- Original Message - From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 6:30 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Home test kit for second-hand smoke exposure - Original Message - From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Home test kit for second-hand smoke exposure - Original Message - From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: brinl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:03 PM Subject: Scouted: Home test kit for second-hand smoke exposure [Snip bad science for commercial purposes] And Martha then vacuums her new carpet, uses household cleansers and breaths the fumes, burns a candle for a good part of the evening, and then drives to a Wal-Mart at the confluence of two interstates. Martha dies of lung cancer 50 years later at the age of 80 and is duly listed as a tobacco related death. There is a pretty easy experiment test for this; use a control group of people who don't live with smokers and work in a smoke free environment. The test kit that indicates getting sick from the smell in the car is a bit suspect, but the basic statistics on second hand smoke have been supported by real testing. Sure Dan, though I have doubts SHS is as bad a problem as it has been presented, my point is directed at the irony of going after smoke when we expose ourselves daily to chemicals that might be even worse. I think it is a mistake to look for single causes when the potential for synergistic effects should be evident. Just what is in that underarm deodorant anyway? And how much of it gets into your lymphatic system? If you can smell it or taste it, or rub it on your body, its likely in your bloodstream seconds later. xponent Genuine Questions Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Home test kit for second-hand smoke exposure
Robert Seeberger wrote: Just what is in that underarm deodorant anyway? Mine? Mostly a petroleum-based gel, as well as coriander oil, lichen and aloe. (I'd have to go upstairs and grab a stick to give the *full* list, but that's a good chunk of it. And nothing extra added for fragrance.) And how much of it gets into your lymphatic system? Dunno. But I'm less concerned about using *my* deodorant than I would be using a lot of the ones on the market. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
