Re: The coming Singularitarian

2006-09-11 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jonathan Gibson wrote: I read Cassini Division over the few quiet times I found at Burning Man last week (...) The first time I heard about this Burning Man was in a Malcolm-in-the-Middle episode. It sounds like Brazilian Carnival, but tamer :-P Alberto Monteiro

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-11 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 8, 2006, at 2:50 PM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Jonathan Gibson wrote: Who's arguing absolute pacifism? I operate on the Fight end of the Spectrum and not Fear, but that doesn't mean I need to reduce everything to fisticuffs. I simply face my fears head on. It's the

Re: FW RE: Fly The Flag

2006-09-11 Thread Gibson Jonathan
Robert, I agree whole-heartedly. I'll fly mine in defiance... and upside-down in accordance with a Ship In Distress rules of the open sea. - Jonathan - On Sep 8, 2006, at 7:27 PM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: Ann Holland wrote: Remember to honor those who have served and this great country

Re: The coming Singularitarian

2006-09-11 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 11, 2006, at 4:24 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Jonathan Gibson wrote: I read Cassini Division over the few quiet times I found at Burning Man last week (...) The first time I heard about this Burning Man was in a Malcolm-in-the-Middle episode. It sounds like Brazilian Carnival, but

Re: unholy OS wars

2006-09-11 Thread Gibson Jonathan
My, AndrewC, you are a prickly one aren't you? You come out all fire and scorching brimstone from the get-go on this topic. Expect push-back. On Sep 8, 2006, at 1:48 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 7 Sep 2006 at 20:04, Gibson Jonathan wrote: As an artist hovering around the computer

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-11 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jonathan Gibson wrote: Because the USA may be the target of nuclear terrorism. OTOH, nuclear terrorists might explode a bomb anywhere they can, just to show they have it. OK. How does this make any difference? We faced nuclear megadeath of enormous proportions for decades w/o erosion of

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-11 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 11, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Jonathan Gibson wrote: Because the USA may be the target of nuclear terrorism. OTOH, nuclear terrorists might explode a bomb anywhere they can, just to show they have it. OK. How does this make any difference? We faced nuclear megadeath

Re: unholy OS wars

2006-09-11 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 11 Sep 2006 at 9:49, Gibson Jonathan wrote: My, AndrewC, you are a prickly one aren't you? You come out all fire and scorching brimstone from the get-go on this topic. Expect push-back. It's called reason, applied, and a defence of a tolerant view. And Except what I'm getting from you

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-11 Thread Nick Arnett
Some of it seems to be -- the Wiki piece has claims that could easily pass 100K already. The info at http://iraqbodycount.org/ seems to be about half that. But that's current numbers, and I think Nick was projecting through to the end of the war. It wasn't me, it was the article I quoted... but

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-11 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/7/06, The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E. You know nothing. You are a Fvcking idiot and a troll. And you have made an unambiguously personal attack there... which is contrary to our community's guidelines. I'm inclined to be less tolerant of personal attacks by people who participate

Re: unholy OS wars

2006-09-11 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:49 AM Monday 9/11/2006, Gibson Jonathan wrote: My, AndrewC, you are a prickly one aren't you? You come out all fire and scorching brimstone from the get-go on this topic. Expect push-back. [...] By the standards of clerks, teachers, bus drivers, cooks, you sir, are a technophile. Let's

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-11 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:24 PM Monday 9/11/2006, Gibson Jonathan wrote: Nonesense. Why do the puppetmasters pushing suicide bombers have less to lose than the soviet aparatchniks did? 'Cuz a cave somewhere in Afghanistan or Pakistan is harder to program into the nav system of a cruise missile than the GPS

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-11 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/8/06, Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are we suspending the guidelines when our dedicated atheists and devout theists get into the ring to slug it out now? If we are, I can bring popcorn if someone else will bring the beers! We had a serious shortage of list managers starting

Re: unholy OS wars

2006-09-11 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 11 Sep 2006 at 12:47, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: [...] Evangelism of any particular platform for anything but price/performance and functionality makes me roll my eyes. Does compatibility with other people whose stuff you have to be able to read and run fit in there somewhere? If it's

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-11 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:52 PM Monday 9/11/2006, Nick Arnett wrote: On 9/7/06, The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E. You know nothing. You are a Fvcking idiot and a troll. And you have made an unambiguously personal attack there... which is contrary to our community's guidelines. I'm inclined to be less

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-11 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 11, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Gibson Jonathan wrote: Nonesense. Why do the puppetmasters pushing suicide bombers have less to lose than the soviet aparatchniks did? There are any number off technical, political, cultural, etc, reasons for a ffoolish leadership to intentionally, or by

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-11 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 11 Sep 2006 at 10:39, Nick Arnett wrote: Some of it seems to be -- the Wiki piece has claims that could easily pass 100K already. The info at http://iraqbodycount.org/ seems to be about half that. But that's current numbers, and I think Nick was projecting through to the end of the

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-11 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 11, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Gibson Jonathan wrote: Is it starve a cold and feed a fever, or other way around? I believe the old saying is starve a cold, feed a fever. The logic is that by starving a cold, you don't give it a bunch of gunk from which to make mucous (Mmm, tasty) and by

Re: Morality

2006-09-11 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/8/06, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In normal binary logic (true/false) these are equivalent since ~true (NOT true) = false (and ~false = true). And in normal SQL logic, there is NULL, TRUE and FALSE. But if you imagine we are just computers, no wonder you won't make room

Re: Morality

2006-09-11 Thread Richard Baker
Nick said: And in normal SQL logic, there is NULL, TRUE and FALSE. But if you imagine we are just computers, no wonder you won't make room for faith. NULL values are the work of the Devil! Rich GCU One Line Reply ___

Re: Morality

2006-09-11 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 11, 2006, at 1:30 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 9/8/06, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In normal binary logic (true/false) these are equivalent since ~true (NOT true) = false (and ~false = true). And in normal SQL logic, there is NULL, TRUE and FALSE. But if you imagine we

Re: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2)

2006-09-11 Thread Deborah Harrell
jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip ...You mention that it was critical that they conserve these resources - and perhaps I am being a bit of a devil's advocate to ask why? So that they would be able to continue to build moai into the future? O.k. obviously the loss of the

A great 9/11 surprise for me

2006-09-11 Thread Nick Arnett
I just blogged about a great surprise I had on the way home from the office this afternoon. http://www.mccmedia.com/cismblog/ I stopped for gas today at a station near my house. While I was kneeling next to the car to check my tires' air pressure, I heard something that sounded like a bagpipe.

Re: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2)

2006-09-11 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:10 PM Monday 9/11/2006, Deborah Harrell wrote: Japan was also cited for its top-down approach to reforestation I really would like to see them growing trees from the top down . . . -- Ronn! :) ___

Re: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2)

2006-09-11 Thread maru dubshinki
On 9/11/06, Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. No. Anytime a culture squanders its resources, it runs the risk of destroying itself; it may be made worse by the natural environment (like Greenland) or climatic change (frex the little ice age). An aside: has anyone