Re: 9/11 conspiracies or why the Red Sox collapsed

2006-09-18 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good to here from you. So even though you are clearly wrong about 9/11 (everyone knows that it was a mutant energizer buddy sent by the Bush daughters because they could not count up to 103 and were therefore insulted by the towers) I hope you have

Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/17/06, Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But for this type of conspiracy to have occurred - one in which the towers were destroyed by explosives inside the building, and then the evidence of this suppressed after the attacks - then literally thousands of people would have to be

Re: Keep Propaganda Off The Airwaves

2006-09-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/15/06, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's one, though: NOBODY in the Clinton admin was called by ANYBODY in Afghanistan who was ready to pick up the package or whatever was their code for capturing Bin Laden and refused to give the authorization. The film included such a scene,

Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-18 Thread Klaus Stock
be a conspiracy of the type alleged, thousands of _perfectly ordinary_ people would have to be involved. There was an estimate that in the GDR, one out of seven persons worked for the Stasi (Staatssicherheit = state security), in one way or the other. Most were of course IMs (Inoffizielle

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/15/06, Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Sep 2006 at 6:39, Nick Arnett wrote: And there are people out there who use that argument to say any game involving violence shouldn't make a profit either. Or gun makers for the civilian market. Or... For what it's worth, I try to

Re: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2)

2006-09-18 Thread Klaus Stock
Think of Mesopotamia. When it was the cradle of civilization it was the fertile crescent. Now it is mostly desert (that is it is Iraq). How did this happen? I guess Bush has the answer to that :-) Over time the people living in the region degraded the environment (cut down the trees -

Re: Keep Propaganda Off The Airwaves

2006-09-18 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 18, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 9/15/06, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's one, though: NOBODY in the Clinton admin was called by ANYBODY in Afghanistan who was ready to pick up the package or whatever was their code for capturing Bin Laden and refused to give the

Re: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2)

2006-09-18 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:57 AM Monday 9/18/2006, Klaus Stock wrote: The people in Scotland also cut down most of the trees in order to have more room for sheep. They also took to wearing kilts, those naughty Scots . . . Baa! Maru -- Ronn! :) ___

Re: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2)

2006-09-18 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 9/18/2006 12:26:00 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They also took to wearing kilts, those naughty Scots . . . More room for the sheep. Vilyehm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Waaaaaaay behind...

2006-09-18 Thread Julia Thompson
I had surgery on September 7 and am now just starting to read listmail again. If you need anything from me, direct e-mail is the best way to reach me. (My hernia is fixed, and for the first time since the twins were born, my abdominal muscles do not have a gap between the left side and the

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-18 Thread Julia Thompson
William T Goodall wrote: On 6 Sep 2006, at 8:33PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: But it requires too much thinking to conclude that - and atheists are no smarter than fundamentalist theists, and will be satisfied with short-range egoistical goals. Short-term egoistical goals for theists mean do

Re: Waaaaaaay behind...

2006-09-18 Thread David Hobby
Julia Thompson wrote: I had surgery on September 7 and am now just starting to read listmail again. If you need anything from me, direct e-mail is the best way to reach me. (My hernia is fixed, and for the first time since the twins were born, my abdominal muscles do not have a gap between

RE: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-18 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Arnett Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 9:43 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?) On 9/17/06,

Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/18/06, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He wasn't well connected, he did not have inside information. He just knew the subject matter. There are thousands of structural engineers who should have been able to see the holes in the explanations of the collapse of the towers if the holes

Re: 9/11 conspiracies or why the Red Sox collapsed

2006-09-18 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 9/18/2006 9:58:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He has, rather remarkably, gone from being a truly atrocious shortstop to one who is basically average (he was significantly better than average last year, I think). OK - maybe you will grant

Whose Ox is Gored?

2006-09-18 Thread Dave Land
Folks, Time and time again, the charge is leveled by one Brineller against another that the accused would not be so outraged (at least to the point of posting to Brin-L) over some political or religious shenanigans if the result had favored his or her position. A recent example: Those of us who

Re: Week 2 NFL Picks

2006-09-18 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John D. Giorgis wrote: NY Giants at Philadelphia - Pick: EAGLES How about them Giants?? I can't believe they turned that around, as they were being soundly whupped for the first 40 minutes of the game. Though I have to wonder

Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-18 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/17/06, Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But for this type of conspiracy to have occurred - one in which the towers were destroyed by explosives inside the building, and then the evidence of this suppressed

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-18 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think there is an economic formula in existence that justifies making money in a cause for which people are giving their very lives. Is not the logical conclusion of this that we should have an all-volunteer army, lest

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-18 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/15/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not anybody that I know of. At best, it is a triage decision. Wow. Finally a view that really gets to the heart of it. Thanks, Nick. I may use that in the future.

Re: 9/11 conspiracies or why the Red Sox collapsed

2006-09-18 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/18/2006 9:58:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He has, rather remarkably, gone from being a truly atrocious shortstop to one who is basically average (he was significantly better than average last year, I

Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/18/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't that not a tautology at all, but one of the basic assumptions about peer-review in science? Only for scientists who treat theories as if they were facts. Nick -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages: 408-904-7198

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/18/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is not the logical conclusion of this that we should have an all-volunteer army, lest soldiers make money in a cause for which people are giving their very lives?Or at least to only pay a death stipend? No, that's not a logical conclusion at

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/18/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's not the language of triage, Nick. That's the language of an abortion is just as good as any other choice. Ever had to make a real triage decision? A life-and-death one? John, there are *no* good choices in a triage decision. That's

Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-18 Thread Charlie Bell
On 19/09/2006, at 2:52 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 9/18/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't that not a tautology at all, but one of the basic assumptions about peer-review in science? Only for scientists who treat theories as if they were facts. ...'cause there's no such thing as