Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
At 05:42 PM Wednesday 10/22/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
On Oct 22, 2008, at 5:33 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
One problem is that compared to an e-mail list like this, most of the
web-based communities have too rigid a structure, while this is
much like an informal
From the New York Times, http://tinyurl.com/6fx8fy,
Alan Greenspan said he was in a state of shocked disbelief about the
breakdown in the ability of banks to regulate themselves
Personally, I'm shocked that he is shocked.
Rick: You're closing my place?! On what grounds?!
Captain Renault: I'm
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From: Kevin B. O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: Future of the list / Questions?
I've been through this a few times, and my experience is that moving to
a
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Wayne Eddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Somebody mentioned a while ago that there are currently two Brin Lists,
three if you count David's blog. Was an argument about the list's format
the reason for the split? I had a look at the site for the other list
On 23 Oct 2008, at 20:40, Wayne Eddy wrote:
Somebody mentioned a while ago that there are currently two Brin
Lists,
three if you count David's blog. Was an argument about the list's
format
the reason for the split? I had a look at the site for the other list
yesterday and I note that
No. I asked who *you* thought was qualified.
There are 7 Latinas serving in the current Congress:
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen R-Fla
Lucille Roybal-Allard D-Calif
Nydia Velazquez D-NY
Loretta Sanchez D- Calif (sister of Linda Sanchez, D-Calif)
Grace Napolitano D-Calif
Hilda Solis D-Calif
Linda
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From: Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 6:29 AM
Subject: Racial and Gender imbalance
let me ask you the same question, john. who do YOU think is qualified?
based on what
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From: Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 6:29 AM
Subject: Racial and Gender imbalance
let me ask you the same question, john. who do YOU think is qualified?
based on
let me ask you the same question, john. who do YOU
think is qualified?
based on what values? i don't pretend to claim to
know enough about
qualified hispanic women to answer your question, but
i would like to ask
you why you think there are, or are not, more hispanic
women in
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From: Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:09 AM
Subject: Racial and Gender imbalance
I agree with John and all the others who think that the
best man or woman
for the
Nick Arnett wrote:
I'm not sure exactly what David B.'s attitude is toward the other list, but
he is subscribed, albeit filtered, to this one. David only sees messages
whose subject starts Brin:.
Not counting times when He uses a sock puppet just to see if we
are still worshipping Him in His
Sorry, on re-reading that it is
perhaps a bit harsher than I intended.
I should have just congratulated John
Garcia on doing research on behalf of
his opponent and still winning the debate
hands down.
Regards,
Wayne.
Yeah right, obviously you did not bother to access the links I
On 23 Oct 2008, at 21:52, Wayne Eddy wrote:
I agree with John and all the others who think that the best man or
woman
for the job is the best man or woman for the job!
If you believe that then you must also believe either
a) white men are remarkably better at important jobs than other
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
let me ask you the same question, john. who do YOU
think is qualified?
based on what values? i don't pretend to claim to
know enough about
qualified hispanic women to answer your question, but
i would like to
On 23 Oct 2008, at 21:52, Wayne Eddy wrote:
I agree with John and all the others who think that the best man or
woman
for the job is the best man or woman for the job!
If you believe that then you must also believe either
a) white men are remarkably better at important jobs than other
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:26 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On 23 Oct 2008, at 21:52, Wayne Eddy wrote:
I agree with John and all the others who think that the best man or
woman
for the job is the best man or woman for the job!
If you believe that then you must also
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Wayne Eddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 6:29 AM
Subject: Racial and Gender imbalance
let me
explain to me, wayne, why not being an expert on
qualified hispanic women
disqualifies me from having an opinion that hispanic
women are
underrepresented in government? are either you or
john experts? i very
clearly stated in the very first post i made on this
topic that i was
I agree with John and all the others who think that
the best man or woman
for the job is the best man or woman for the job!
If you believe that then you must also believe either
a) white men are remarkably better at important jobs
than other people, or
b) there is a distinct bias
OK, I'd love to hear from anyone who's been contributing to this thread:
List *up to* three female Hispanic politicians, explaining to me why each
would make a good vice-presidential candidate. If you only pick one,
that's fine. Throwing URLs around right and left is providing
information,
or
c) There is a bias against
i) People who did not go to an 'elite' school
or university
ii) People who come from a 'lower class'
demographic
iii) People who have not had the same economic, cultural
and social
advantages as others
I could go on.
Not every non-white is
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
I agree with John and all the others who think that
the best man or woman
for the job is the best man or woman for the job!
If you believe that then you must also believe either
a) white men are remarkably better at important jobs
than other
i absolutely do believe there is a distinct bias
against people who aren't white men for important jobs
in government. do you deny it?
i also believe something should be done about it.
do you believe that white men are remarkably better at
important jobs than other people?
jon
I
OK, I'd love to hear from anyone who's been
contributing to this thread:
List *up to* three female Hispanic politicians, explaining
to me why each
would make a good vice-presidential candidate. If you only
pick one,
that's fine. Throwing URLs around right and left is
providing
On Oct 23, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
I agree with John and all the others who think that
the best man or woman
for the job is the best man or woman for the job!
If you believe that then you must also believe either
a) white men are remarkably better at important jobs
than
Qualified is irrelevant. We hear a lot of talk
on both sides of the
campaign about qualifications for the Presidency. What
would those be? Is
there an apprenticeship for the job? Is it like moving from
journeyman to master electrician?
ALL Presidents have been unqualified on Inaugural Day,
Affirmative action is racist and wrong.
However, I see nothing wrong in giving
lower income people a leg up especially
when it comes to education. This
would benefit minorities
disproportionally but it
wouldn't be an attempt to
correct racism with a racist solution.
Doug
it would be
1) I believe an inequity exists that grants
disproportionate advantage to white males
in this country's key leadership positions.
2) I believe that one of the primary mechanisms
driving that inequity is an educational system
that, historically, has favored wealthy upper
class
John Garcia wrote:
As I have said before, my vote is given to the candidate who most closely
matches my values. Ethnic pride aside, I would not vote for a candidate
simply because she was a Latina, just as I would not vote for a candidate
because he or she is a US Navy veteran, Roman Catholic,
Was there any advance in the credit/lawsuit/whatever related to the
rip-off movie The Core? I was editing the Portuguese Wikipedia article
about it, and I would like to know if there is any hard data (references,
frex) about it.
The English Wikipedia article only mentions that it was ripped off
On 23 Oct 2008, at 22:35, Wayne Eddy wrote:
On 23 Oct 2008, at 21:52, Wayne Eddy wrote:
I agree with John and all the others who think that the best man or
woman
for the job is the best man or woman for the job!
If you believe that then you must also believe either
a) white men are
Julia Thompson wrote:
OK, I'd love to hear from anyone who's been contributing to this thread:
List *up to* three female Hispanic politicians, explaining to me why each
would make a good vice-presidential candidate. If you only pick one,
that's fine. Throwing URLs around right and left is
On 23 Oct 2008, at 22:55, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
I agree with John and all the others who think that
the best man or woman
for the job is the best man or woman for the job!
If you believe that then you must also believe either
a) white men are remarkably better at important jobs
than other
http://www.break.com/index/unbelievable-mccain-vs-obama-dance-off.html
lolz Maru
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You are coming to a sad realization. Cancel or Allow?
At 05:03 PM Thursday 10/23/2008, Julia Thompson wrote:
OK, I'd love to hear from anyone who's been contributing to this thread:
List *up to* three female Hispanic politicians, explaining to me why each
would make a good vice-presidential candidate. If you only pick one,
that's fine. Throwing
At 05:20 PM Thursday 10/23/2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
whatever is done to favor minorities is bound to be resented by
certain elements in the white community..
As well as all the other minorities who are not so favored.
. . . ronn! :)
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Jon wrote:
it would be great if all inequites could be addressed without regard to race,
sex, ethnicity, etc. however, cases where a minority is given preference
over a white male, who may even be more qualified, to satisfy quotas are less
of a concern to me than the reverse. when the
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