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J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 22:33 11-10-2002 -0400, John Giorgis wrote: Now, it is entirely possible to decide that another poster is so unlikely to post an intelligent remark or question that the probability of this approaches zero. So, the probability of me posting an intelligent remark or question approaches zero? If that is true, why has not everyone on this list killfiled me? Why are people still responding to my posts? Why am I still here? Why do you think he was referring to you? Do you think you're the only person he's ever killfiled? In light of comments made off-list, the details of which I will not share unless given permission by John, I don't think he was referring to you in that statement. In fact, I think that if you thought about it for a little while, you could come up with a much more likely candidate for the referent of that statement. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 22:33 11-10-2002 -0400, John Giorgis wrote: It might even get you killfiled.. and then what is your point of view worth? Killfiling someone will not stop that person from sharing his points of view. The only one who loses here is the person who does the killfiling, because s/he will not see anything written by the killfiled person, and thus will also miss any intelligent remarks or questions from that person. You are making an error here.Each person has to make a cost-benefit analysis in choosing to read a message.For example, we have all decided that reading Brin-L carries more benefit to us than the cost of not doing something else that we could with our time. If we did not, we would not be here. Now, it is entirely possible to decide that another poster is so unlikely to post an intelligent remark or question that the probability of this approaches zero. So, the probability of me posting an intelligent remark or question approaches zero? If that is true, why has not everyone on this list killfiled me? Why are people still responding to my posts? Why am I still here? If that probability would indeed approach zero, there would be no reason for people *not* to killfile me, there would be no reason for people to reply to my posts, and there would thus be no reason for me to remain on this list. However, most people have not killfiled me, people still reply to my posts, and I am still here. There must be a good reason for all that... Oh, and those four questions two paragraphs above are NOT, I repeat: NOT rhetorical questions. In other words: I expect you (where you means John Giorgis) to come up with an answer to those questions. Additionally, it is entirely possible to decide that reading certain four-letter words carries such *disutility* for you, that the cost of this outweighs the benefits of that posters intelligent remarks and questions.In either case, you benefit from killfiling the other poster in question. You are making an error here. If you do not want to read certain four-letter words, you should not filter out the messages from one specific poster, you should filter out the messages that have that specific word in the body of the message. It is after all entirely possible that several posters might use that word. Killfiling one specific poster will not stop those other posters from using that word. Further, your outweighing the benefits argument would only be valid if the vast majority of a poster's messages would include that certain four-letter word. I am confident that this does not apply to my posts. But, if you would specify what four-letter word you mean, I would be more than happy to search the Great Brin-L Archive for messages that I (or any other poster) sent and that contain that specific four-letter word, and then compare that number of posts with my (or that other poster's) total number of posts. Moreover, by taking the time to write a post, unless writing this has the value to you that is the equivalent of a diary entry, because you find some value in sharing this post with other people.Thus, the value to you of writing that post is decreased by every list-member that chooses to killfile you and not read your posts.For example, you probably would spend little time writing posts to a list in which every person has killfiled you. Thus, each killfile has a small marginal decrease in your own value of writing posts. Maybe for you, but not for me. As long as there are people who find my posts interesting enough to read them and reply to them, the value to me of writing those posts remains the same. It does not make a difference to me whether there are 1,000 individuals in that group of people, 100 individuals, or just one -- as long as there is someone who finds my posts worth the time and effort of reading (and perhaps replying to) them, the value to me of writing those posts remains the same. Allow me to point out the flaw in your logic. You state that the value of writing a post decreases as the number of people who read that post decreases. Therefore, that value will *increase* when the number of people who read that post increases. It would therefore be beneficial for me to leave Brin-L and join a mailing list that has many more subscribers. But I am still here... That is not to say a decrease in value is impossible, though. However, it is not a gradual decrease, but an instant decrease (like flipping a switch from 'on' to 'off'). That point is reached when the number of people reading my posts is lowered from *one* to *zero*. So, I am not losing anything when someone else decides to killfile me. It is the killfiler who loses, because s/he will miss out on posts that are generally worth reading and may contain intelligent questions and comments (and s/he will also miss out on a lot of humour). The killfiler also loses because s/he will not see it when the killfiled poster
Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution
At 19:01 01-10-2002 -0400, John Giorgis wrote: It might even get you killfiled.. and then what is your point of view worth? Killfiling someone will not stop that person from sharing his points of view. The only one who loses here is the person who does the killfiling, because s/he will not see anything written by the killfiled person, and thus will also miss any intelligent remarks or questions from that person. You are making an error here.Each person has to make a cost-benefit analysis in choosing to read a message.For example, we have all decided that reading Brin-L carries more benefit to us than the cost of not doing something else that we could with our time. If we did not, we would not be here. Now, it is entirely possible to decide that another poster is so unlikely to post an intelligent remark or question that the probability of this approaches zero. Additionally, it is entirely possible to decide that reading certain four-letter words carries such *disutility* for you, that the cost of this outweighs the benefits of that posters intelligent remarks and questions.In either case, you benefit from killfiling the other poster in question. Moreover, by taking the time to write a post, unless writing this has the value to you that is the equivalent of a diary entry, because you find some value in sharing this post with other people.Thus, the value to you of writing that post is decreased by every list-member that chooses to killfile you and not read your posts.For example, you probably would spend little time writing posts to a list in which every person has killfiled you. Thus, each killfile has a small marginal decrease in your own value of writing posts. QED The statement "the only one who loses here is the person who does the killfiling" is proven false. Jeroen "His problem, not mine" van Baardwijk Pretty brave words from someone who recently took to the practice of sending certain of his messages to four of my e-mail addresses, in the hopes that I would read one of them. Of course, he never considered the possibility that I still occasionally read his posts, but have simply decided that the marginal value to me of responding to him has pretty much approached zero. JDG
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I wrote some stuff concerning the big 8 pagan festivals, and offered more details upon request. Debbi replied: 'Please, sir, may I have some more?' :) Official request I'm Not Lazy, I Was Just Drawn That Way Maru :-) I live to serve... This is a great page that links to pages about each of the 8 festivals (just click on the picture). Each festival page has date, description, alternate names (including Druidic names), and comparable Christian festivals: http://www.byzant.com/festivals/paganfestivals.asp From the same site, this page offers a quick overview and puts each festival in context. Be sure to check out the Other articles of interest at the bottom: http://www.byzant.com/festivals/paganyear.asp A good site for general info is: http://www.wicca.com/ A good site for general info on just about ANY belief system is: http://www.religioustolerance.org/ Here are pagan festivals as celebrated in Cornwall: http://www.cornishlight.freeserve.co.uk/customs.htm Here are some reviews of pagan festivals: http://www.witchvox.com/xfestivals.html Special thanks go to a very good friend who provided me with many of these links but asked that I not post her name on-list. Reggie Bautista _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 01:32:02PM -0400, Jim Sharkey wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: No. I think people should tolerate whatever the fuck people want to write. Ah, the mature response. Guaranteed to get peope to see your point of view every time! :) Who the hell is Peope and why would I want him to see my point of view? Actually Peope is a she, a female dolphin from the Streaker crew. Lucky Kaa's sweet heart that got abducted on Jijo in Brin's trilogy.. oh sorry, blast of on toppicness halted I won't do it again. Promise. ;o) Sonja ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: Actually Peope is a she, a female dolphin from the Streaker crew. Peepoe Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Alberto Monteiro wrote: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: Actually Peope is a she, a female dolphin from the Streaker crew. Peepoe D'oh, I knew I should have looked that up. Sonja I just feel I dunno sooo blond today. ( + )( + ) maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: ( + )( + ) maru Boobs maru? Register now! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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I wrote: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: ( + )( + ) maru Boobs maru? Ahhh, Christmas!!! There was actually something funny that was supposed to follow Boobs maru, which basically was Yuh-Roon hunting me down with something sharp and pointy for this joke, but somehow my usual * * tag that indicates action disappeared along with the stuff inside. Rats. Anyway, it was funny. Not, you know, spit Dr. Pepper on your monitor funny or anything, but maybe snicker-worthy. Ok, babbling's over. :) Jim Changed your e-mail? Keep your contacts! Use this free e-mail change of address service from Return Path. Register now! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jim Sharkey wrote: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: ( + )( + ) maru Boobs maru? Register now! Hey! You snipped the rest of that comment. Blond usually seems to go with them sillicon boobs. No? And more blond as in more stupid goes with more distraction material, e.g. boobs Oh man, now you made me explain the joke. Darn male person. ;o) Well since you snipped the rest I guess this distraction from my original stupid mistake worked quite well. H I think I'll do that more often. :o) Sonja ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 19:01 01-10-2002 -0400, John Giorgis wrote: Can we please keep the language appropriate for a family list? No. I think people should tolerate whatever the fuck people want to write. Ah, the mature response. Guaranteed to get peope to see your point of view every time! :) It might even get you killfiled.. and then what is your point of view worth? Killfiling someone will not stop that person from sharing his points of view. The only one who loses here is the person who does the killfiling, because s/he will not see anything written by the killfiled person, and thus will also miss any intelligent remarks or questions from that person. And yes, I do see the irony in the fact that I am replying to a post about killfiling, while the person I am replying to will probably not see my message because he killfiled me... Jeroen His problem, not mine van Baardwijk __ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Matt Grimaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool wrote: http://www.trufax.org/ (also try webdev.archive.org, they've toned it waaay down, this site has to be seen to be believed, and the older versions were much much more whacked out). I wouldn't be surprised to see artcles about ORMUS on this site. ;-) What's ORMUS? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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The Fool wrote: From: Matt Grimaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool wrote: http://www.trufax.org/ (also try webdev.archive.org, they've toned it waaay down, this site has to be seen to be believed, and the older versions were much much more whacked out). I wouldn't be surprised to see artcles about ORMUS on this site. ;-) What's ORMUS? Go to http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/whatisit.htm and read as much of that site as you can. The keeper of that site showed up on the list in October of 1998 and proceeded to try to educate us on ORMUS. Various listmembers more versed in physics than I proceeded to refute a number of the claims made on-list and on the websites we were directed to check out. (The site cited in the first ORMUS post I found couldn't be located. So I did a search, and found our own ORMUS advocate's website on the first hit.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Julia Thompson wrote: The Fool wrote: From: Matt Grimaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool wrote: http://www.trufax.org/ (also try webdev.archive.org, they've toned it waaay down, this site has to be seen to be believed, and the older versions were much much more whacked out). I wouldn't be surprised to see artcles about ORMUS on this site. ;-) What's ORMUS? Go to http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/whatisit.htm and read as much of that site as you can. I found another one, same web search, that describes the discoverer of ORMUS as an Arizona farmer. (That explains a lot, I guess) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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The Fool asked: What's ORMUS? Ask another question like this and you will face unending ban from the list :-/ Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] she was as prone to belief in conspiracy theories as you *seem* to be. (Not trying to be insulting here G) A real conspiracy theorist believe in this kind of bullshit: http://www.toledolink.com/~flash/flashx.html and this kind of bullshit: http://www.trufax.org/ (also try webdev.archive.org, they've toned it waaay down, this site has to be seen to be believed, and the older versions were much much more whacked out). and this kind of bullshit: http://home.earthlink.net/~calknight/The_X-Vault.htm and this kind of bullshit: http://www.mt.net/~watcher/nwo.html and this kind of bullshit: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/projects.html and this kind of bullshit: http://thewinds.arcsnet.net/ and this kind of bullshit: http://www.crossroad.to/ All of it complete and total crap. Some people will believe the weirdest shit. Notice the thread of religion in each of these sites? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 09:48 PM 9/28/2002 -0500 Robert Seeberger wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2002/EDUCATION/09/26/creationism.evolution/index.html The policy presented here doesn't seem that bad at all. Especially if it is interpreted as counting intelligent design as an alternative to evolution.I personally think that they are basically the same thing, but it seems that some people are satisfied that it is a viable alternative. JDG ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 08:20:44AM -0400, John D. Giorgis wrote: Can we please keep the language appropriate for a family list? No. I think people should tolerate whatever the fuck people want to write. -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] IIRC, All Hallow's Eve is the night before All Saints Day a Catholic (?) holiday. On All Hallow's Eve, the dead can walk the earth or something like that. So it isn't really pagan. Or I could be wrong... No, you are right . But it is also the feast of Samhain, when the dead walk the earth. Actually the catholics coopted the holiday to satisfy the newly converted Celts. Ah! That's right. I knew that. Really I did. Shouldn't post late at night... Or at least without checking Google first... - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 5:08 AM Subject: Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution All of it complete and total crap. Some people will believe the weirdest shit. Notice the thread of religion in each of these sites? So? The results of a highly biased sample are meaningless. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] All of it complete and total crap. Some people will believe the weirdest shit. Notice the thread of religion in each of these sites? So? The results of a highly biased sample are meaningless. Who is more likely to believe that kind of garbage, a rational, logical person, or a person who believes in things like genesis, revelation, astrology, magic, god, etc.? Almost all conspiracy theories fall into two classes: 1. UFO's, aliens, abductions; 2. religion, NWO, united-religions, Illuminati-freemasonry. Religion is the primary foundation of the conspiracy theory, it's all about secret cabals, esoteric plans / rituals / knowledge, secret satanic plans to rule the world and destroy Christianity, etc. Most people who are holocaust deniers are supremely religious. The official position of most Islamic regimes is that the holocaust didn't happen, that 'The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion' is factual, that Israel controls the US/UN etc. and that the Israeli mossad is the 'real' perpetrator of the 911 attacks, etc. ad nauseum. Furthermore, these conspiracies are very big in the Islamic world, a Lot of Muslims believe them (and fabricate them, too I think). I don't think the demographic for conspiracy theory belief in the west is all that different. People who haven't learned how to tell bullshit, from non-bullshit, and extreme religious belief tend to be same (or why would most of the conspiracy theories be specifically about religion). Of what use is a religious conspiracy to a rationalist or an atheist? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 08:20:44AM -0400, John D. Giorgis wrote: Can we please keep the language appropriate for a family list? No. I think people should tolerate whatever the fuck people want to write. Ah, the mature response. Guaranteed to get peope to see your point of view every time! :) Jim Changed your e-mail? Keep your contacts! Use this free e-mail change of address service from Return Path. Register now! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 08:20:44AM -0400, John D. Giorgis wrote: Can we please keep the language appropriate for a family list? No. I think people should tolerate whatever the fuck people want to write. Ah, the mature response. Guaranteed to get peope to see your point of view every time! :) It might even get you killfiled.. and then what is your point of view worth? JDG ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 01:32:02PM -0400, Jim Sharkey wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: No. I think people should tolerate whatever the fuck people want to write. Ah, the mature response. Guaranteed to get peope to see your point of view every time! :) Who the hell is Peope and why would I want him to see my point of view? Followed by mockery over a typo. Impressive. *yawn* Jim Changed your e-mail? Keep your contacts! Use this free e-mail change of address service from Return Path. Register now! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 7:31 PM Subject: Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 01:32:02PM -0400, Jim Sharkey wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: No. I think people should tolerate whatever the fuck people want to write. Ah, the mature response. Guaranteed to get peope to see your point of view every time! :) Who the hell is Peope and why would I want him to see my point of view? AhSo you are the only one not on the Peope-L mailing list. That explains things! G xponent Civiisation-L Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 08:46:04PM -0400, Jim Sharkey wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 01:32:02PM -0400, Jim Sharkey wrote: Ah, the mature response. Guaranteed to get peope to see your point of view every time! :) Who the hell is Peope and why would I want him to see my point of view? Followed by mockery over a typo. Impressive. *yawn* Yeah, I'm a real asshole, huh? -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Erik Reuter wrote: Yeah, I'm a real asshole, huh? If it makes you happy to be one, be my guest! Far be it from me to stop you. Jim Changed your e-mail? Keep your contacts! Use this free e-mail change of address service from Return Path. Register now! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 10:15:53PM -0400, Jim Sharkey wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: Yeah, I'm a real asshole, huh? If it makes you happy to be one, be my guest! Far be it from me to stop you. Right. Besides, it is more fun to watch and make sarcastic comments, anyway! And if you told me to put a cork in it, that could be taken the wrong way... -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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http://www.cnn.com/2002/EDUCATION/09/26/creationism.evolution/index.html A suburban Atlanta school board Thursday night voted unanimously to allow teachers to introduce students to different views about the origins of life. The Cobb County Board of Education, the state's second-largest school board, approved the policy change after limited discussion, calling it a necessary element of providing a balanced education. The board's vote drew cheers from some and expressions of dismay from others in the packed meeting room. This supposed victory [by proponents of alternate theories] was shallow, very shallow, said Jeffrey Selman. Selman and other opponents believe the new policy is a step toward introducing religion -- in particular, creationism -- in public schools. We're going to be watching this very closely. rob The school board from my home area, one of the members had a rant during a meeting about music being played around school and sporting events. It started normally, then he started talking about the DJ's behavior. Then somehow he tied in metal music with satan worshiping and the occult and, wait for it, Harry Potter. The others members thanked him for his comments and promised it would be looked into. Kevin T. And so it begins ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Kevin Tarr wrote: The school board from my home area, one of the members had a rant during a meeting about music being played around school and sporting events. It started normally, then he started talking about the DJ's behavior. Then somehow he tied in metal music with satan worshiping and the occult and, wait for it, Harry Potter. OK, now, how do you tie in *metal* with Harry Potter? Julia whose mind was more boggled by *that* than the record-breaking half the Ravens just had ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 9:56 PM Subject: Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution OK, now, how do you tie in *metal* with Harry Potter? Doesn't Harry show his metal in many a tight spot? Wait, that's mettle; nevermind. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 9:56 PM Subject: Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution Kevin Tarr wrote: The school board from my home area, one of the members had a rant during a meeting about music being played around school and sporting events. It started normally, then he started talking about the DJ's behavior. Then somehow he tied in metal music with satan worshiping and the occult and, wait for it, Harry Potter. OK, now, how do you tie in *metal* with Harry Potter? Metal Music Satan Worship Occultism Harry Potter Simple! Or at least it always was for my ex-wife. G When I first met her She wouldnt let her daughter go Trick or Treating because Halloween was a Satanic holiday. BTW*I* won that battle xponent Enough To Make One Disbelieve Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Tarr wrote: The school board from my home area, one of the members had a rant during a meeting about music being played around school and sporting events. It started normally, then he started talking about the DJ's behavior. Then somehow he tied in metal music with satan worshiping and the occult and, wait for it, Harry Potter. OK, now, how do you tie in *metal* with Harry Potter? Metal Music Satan Worship Occultism Harry Potter Simple! Or at least it always was for my ex-wife. G When I first met her She wouldnt let her daughter go Trick or Treating because Halloween was a Satanic holiday. In what way is halloween any more pagan/occultic/etc. than christmas, easter, or valentines day? They all come from ancient pagan god worship. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: The Fool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] When I first met her She wouldnt let her daughter go Trick or Treating because Halloween was a Satanic holiday. In what way is halloween any more pagan/occultic/etc. than christmas, easter, or valentines day? They all come from ancient pagan god worship. IIRC, All Hallow's Eve is the night before All Saints Day a Catholic (?) holiday. On All Hallow's Eve, the dead can walk the earth or something like that. So it isn't really pagan. Or I could be wrong... - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:29 PM Subject: Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Tarr wrote: The school board from my home area, one of the members had a rant during a meeting about music being played around school and sporting events. It started normally, then he started talking about the DJ's behavior. Then somehow he tied in metal music with satan worshiping and the occult and, wait for it, Harry Potter. OK, now, how do you tie in *metal* with Harry Potter? Metal Music Satan Worship Occultism Harry Potter Simple! Or at least it always was for my ex-wife. G When I first met her She wouldnt let her daughter go Trick or Treating because Halloween was a Satanic holiday. In what way is halloween any more pagan/occultic/etc. than christmas, easter, or valentines day? They all come from ancient pagan god worship. First you have to remember my ex-wife was a fairly extreme fundementalist. Then you must know that she suffered from mental illness. After that throw in that she was as prone to belief in conspiracy theories as you *seem* to be. (Not trying to be insulting here G) She believed a lot of wierd stuff, had bizarre confabulations (under hypnosis), was a sexual abuse survivor, a republican, and felt some of the strongest faith in God of anyone I have ever known. In some ways she was wierd, but she is also one of the most human people I have ever met. xponent I Dont Miss Her Much Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
